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pstokely

(10,530 posts)
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 10:07 PM Dec 2022

In a Future Filled With Electric Cars, AM Radio May Be Left Behind

a lot of hotel alarm clocks don't even have FM tuners

https://www.yahoo.com/news/future-filled-electric-cars-am-164547763.html

For nearly 100 years, drivers have been listening to AM radio, an American institution crackling with news, traffic, weather, sports and an eclectic variety of other programs.

But that dashboard staple could be going the way of manual-crank windows and car ashtrays as electric vehicles begin to grab more of the U.S. marketplace.

An increasing number of electric models have dropped AM radio in what broadcasters call a worrisome shift that could spell trouble for the stations and deprive drivers of a crucial source of news in emergencies.

Carmakers say that electric vehicles generate more electromagnetic interference than gas-powered cars, which can disrupt the reception of AM signals and cause static, noise and a high-frequency hum. (FM signals are more resistant to such interference.)

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In a Future Filled With Electric Cars, AM Radio May Be Left Behind (Original Post) pstokely Dec 2022 OP
Interesting. On the mornings I go to the office Abolishinist Dec 2022 #1
I don't guess I would even notice. 70sEraVet Dec 2022 #2
I wonder if hub-motor vehicles orthoclad Dec 2022 #3
Pretty much all EVs have cell/internet connections Miguelito Loveless Dec 2022 #4
I would never pair a phone with a car orthoclad Dec 2022 #8
I have the option Miguelito Loveless Dec 2022 #12
Not really. None of that info gets stored permanently. tinrobot Dec 2022 #17
Well, OK, then. MineralMan Dec 2022 #28
So you are missing out big time Polybius Dec 2022 #30
I have an ipod. orthoclad Dec 2022 #31
I spend most of my time listening to a car radio House of Roberts Dec 2022 #5
So, instead of solving the problem, they throw away something people rely on. patphil Dec 2022 #6
Huh. I've gotten news, weather, traffic, sports, talk shows and all the rest on FM radio. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2022 #15
AM radio. patphil Dec 2022 #24
They may be on AM, but are also on FM. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2022 #27
Some leftists should buy AM stations orthoclad Dec 2022 #7
Good, that will cut out half of those crazy religious and RW broadcasters. TheBlackAdder Dec 2022 #9
When my local AM station dropped Stephanie Miller Aristus Dec 2022 #10
Has anyone told MT Greene about this leftist conspiracy to take over the world? Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #11
My PHEV has an AM band. The sound is just as good (which is crappy) as any AM radio Liberal In Texas Dec 2022 #13
All I need is FM and Bluetooth. roamer65 Dec 2022 #14
Traditional radio and television don't even exist in the world of my children and their cousins. hunter Dec 2022 #16
I remember when AM Radio ymetca Dec 2022 #18
Rush Limbaugh would be spinning in his grave. dalton99a Dec 2022 #19
Easy solution: listen to NPR! tableturner Dec 2022 #20
Public radio is the only thing left worth listening to in many places. hunter Dec 2022 #21
The best use for AM radio that I ever heard TlalocW Dec 2022 #22
I haven't listened to AM in more than 30 years. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2022 #23
Twin Cities progressive talk radio, AM950 progree Dec 2022 #25
AM reichtalk has migrated to FM here Captain Zero Dec 2022 #26
Good! Cut it off! Let's see how cons do without their daily brain feed. Initech Dec 2022 #29

Abolishinist

(1,305 posts)
1. Interesting. On the mornings I go to the office
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 10:16 PM
Dec 2022

I listen to an AM radio station based out of L.A. There is a certain traffic light that, if it happens to turn red, wreaks havoc with my reception - very annoying - all due, I imagine, to the overhead power lines. It seems electric cars can do the same thing.

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
3. I wonder if hub-motor vehicles
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 10:16 PM
Dec 2022

like the Rivian or the Aptera generate as much interference?

My PHEV gets Am fine. Sounds like an excuse to save a few bucks manufacturing cheaper radios/antennas and skimping on shielding.

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
8. I would never pair a phone with a car
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 10:30 PM
Dec 2022

All the contacts of the phone get recorded in car memory, accessible to hackers.

I don't phone and drive. They can wait for an answer.

tinrobot

(10,916 posts)
17. Not really. None of that info gets stored permanently.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 11:22 PM
Dec 2022

The car only gets enough "access" to display names/numbers on the screen. That info goes away when the car is off.

You should be way more worried about hackers targeting the phone itself.

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
28. Well, OK, then.
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 02:21 PM
Dec 2022

I'm not sure how someone getting my contacts list would harm me, somehow. Maybe you could explain.

My phone is paired with my cars. I can just say, "Hey Google, give me direction to {address}." I like that a lot. Or, I can say "Hey Google remember where I parked." Convenient, huh?

But, you do you...

Polybius

(15,476 posts)
30. So you are missing out big time
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 03:51 PM
Dec 2022

I can't even begin to imagine a life without pairing my music in my car.

House of Roberts

(5,182 posts)
5. I spend most of my time listening to a car radio
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 10:20 PM
Dec 2022

with the car stationary. I'm usually waiting in the car for my partner to emerge from a store or doctor's office. I don't care to listen while in motion, so electrical interference wouldn't affect me. I do spend most of that time listening to FM for the music, and rarely stick to talk radio, since it's almost all MAGA anyway.

patphil

(6,207 posts)
6. So, instead of solving the problem, they throw away something people rely on.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 10:24 PM
Dec 2022

AM radio is extremely important for drivers...news, weather, traffic, sports, talk shows...the list is endless.

They've got to fix that. It'd be a deal breaker for millions of potential customers.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
15. Huh. I've gotten news, weather, traffic, sports, talk shows and all the rest on FM radio.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 11:12 PM
Dec 2022

What am I missing here?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
27. They may be on AM, but are also on FM.
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 02:13 PM
Dec 2022

Trust me. I haven't bothered with the AM on my car radio in decades.

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
7. Some leftists should buy AM stations
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 10:26 PM
Dec 2022

to get non-commercial music and left talk back on the air.

I've fantasized about that for years. Farther reception than FM, and, frankly, I don't see that big a difference in sound quality unless you're using expensive audio equipment. Jimi Hendrix engineered all his early, great, material to fit AM audio response. And I'd rather hear scratchy 1920s recordings than the bland, smoothly manufactured and polished junk on the radio these days.

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
10. When my local AM station dropped Stephanie Miller
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 10:36 PM
Dec 2022

and replaced her with right-wing programming, I abandoned car radio, and just listened to digital music on my commute.

Liberal In Texas

(13,574 posts)
13. My PHEV has an AM band. The sound is just as good (which is crappy) as any AM radio
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 10:50 PM
Dec 2022

in the house or in other cars.

I drive mostly in EV mode and never heard that interference. I do have an upgraded Harman Karden system which may have something to do with it.

But, I don't listen to AM radio much anyway. It's all RW crap. I don't like paying for something that should be free, but I thank the goddesses for Sirius/XM.

hunter

(38,326 posts)
16. Traditional radio and television don't even exist in the world of my children and their cousins.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 11:13 PM
Dec 2022

They stream everything. In their cars they listen to music, books, and podcasts from their phones. Their cars radios are just another Bluetooth speaker.

I won't miss AM radio. It's the owners of these broadcast licences who shit all over their own houses and made themselves irrelevant.

It has little to do with electric cars.

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
18. I remember when AM Radio
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 11:26 PM
Dec 2022

having been mostly abandoned to religious nut-jobs and local yokel stations, and FM being subsumed into national conglomerates, there was a movement to allow "micro-broadcast" AM mini-stations, permitting much more diverse folks onto the airways. In small communities it worked great, with even neighborhood AM radio stations. So you could get this wide array of interesting stuff on AM again, all of a sudden, as you passed through town.

And then Congress killed it, I guess. I think licensing and spectrum management was perceived as being just too unmanageable. But I think we all suspected that powerful interests simply wanted to limit competition, same as always.

At least that's how I remember it anyway.

If you think about it, what's more useful to democracy than a million little micro-broadcasting "town criers", occasionally blurting out something that all of us really ought to hear?

Then the Internet came along and everybody forgot about the fact that AM was still churning out religious and corporate psychobabble all day long. It's where their cult was so assiduously cultivated.

Listening to AM radio these days, you'll mostly get a hefty dose of peak indoctrination into loving Jesus, beer and motor oil. Every once in awhile (usually during local high school football games), you'll hear an armed forces recruitment pitch or two.

hunter

(38,326 posts)
21. Public radio is the only thing left worth listening to in many places.
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 12:08 AM
Dec 2022

I support our local station.

TlalocW

(15,391 posts)
22. The best use for AM radio that I ever heard
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 12:34 AM
Dec 2022

Was to take it out with when you're boating as it could serve as a warning for thunderstorms - not through any on-air program but electricity/lightning causing it to crackle.

progree

(10,918 posts)
25. Twin Cities progressive talk radio, AM950
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 03:47 AM
Dec 2022
https://www.am950radio.com/

Other than that, I don't listen to anything on AM radio.

On FM, the only thing I listen to is Minnesota Public Radio 91.1 FM

When I jog, I listen to one or the other (usually streaming over my phone and using my data allocation), or to podcasts (Bradblog, Thom Hartmann that are downloaded generally when I'm at home via WiFi so I don't consume my cellphone service's data allocation).

It would be problematical for a long road trip not having AM.

Somehow I will manage.

Captain Zero

(6,823 posts)
26. AM reichtalk has migrated to FM here
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 04:11 AM
Dec 2022

Some time ago. Even moved the call letters to the FM BAND. Rush was on it before he died. All the spinoffs and local knockoffs wrangle on it now, but lots of people who drive during the day listen to that crap. It's a powerful FM signal too.

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