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highplainsdem

(63,135 posts)
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 12:26 PM Dec 2022

The Hoarse Whisperer: Oh, just another $25 billion in Tesla shareholder value up in flames.






Oh, just another $25 billion in shareholder value up in flames.

I wonder when Tesla shareholders are going to file their first lawsuit about Musk tanking the stock.



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The Hoarse Whisperer: Oh, just another $25 billion in Tesla shareholder value up in flames. (Original Post) highplainsdem Dec 2022 OP
Wow! scarletlib Dec 2022 #1
Damn!! I should have shorted tesla! Probably still sunflowerseed Dec 2022 #2
aww c'mon.... you can't look at 1 day performance and make any statements from it..... getagrip_already Dec 2022 #3
i think a dead cat bounce is the best he can hope for. mopinko Dec 2022 #4
sadly, stock prices lost their relationship to company performance a while ago..... getagrip_already Dec 2022 #5
It was 399.93 on 1-1-22 Gore1FL Dec 2022 #14
Yes this isn't just a short term crash Stuckinthebush Dec 2022 #20
Here's the 3m data sir pball Dec 2022 #22
For reference the market as a whole is up a bit. This is all due to Musk acting like a first rate RAB910 Dec 2022 #6
I looked at Tesla's (TSLA) stock history. patphil Dec 2022 #7
The history is all over the place. A Tweet about a few hours is...tweet worthy, not much other worth. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #19
Going back to January of this year, it was approximately $400 a share. patphil Dec 2022 #23
Exactly. Competition will be fierce in the future where the stock market gazes. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #24
The F150 Lightning is a strong indicator of what Tesla is about to face. patphil Dec 2022 #25
This guy has many irons in the fire but Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #8
52 PE ratio. One statistic but its one of the big ones. Tetrachloride Dec 2022 #9
I think Musk can thank Kathy Woods for helping to inflate that number RAB910 Dec 2022 #10
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #11
True believers and worshippers of the amazing genius dalton99a Dec 2022 #12
Wow indeed! calimary Dec 2022 #13
Tsk Tsk republianmushroom Dec 2022 #15
lol.. I bet musk just loves Cha Dec 2022 #16
The problem seems to be, that the Tesla brand is tied too closely to Musk's personality. 70sEraVet Dec 2022 #17
Most investors don't care about the CEO's politics. LudwigPastorius Dec 2022 #18
I suspect it is more than that Zorro Dec 2022 #21

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
3. aww c'mon.... you can't look at 1 day performance and make any statements from it.....
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 12:33 PM
Dec 2022

Sometimes, stocks go down. Sometimes, they go up.

An inter-day swing means exactly squat unless you are actively trading.

What is the 30-60-90 day trend? How does that relate to the industry? To the market?

It could be back by 3.

mopinko

(73,968 posts)
4. i think a dead cat bounce is the best he can hope for.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 12:41 PM
Dec 2022

ppl bought his car cuz it was the only girl in town.
he’s dust.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
5. sadly, stock prices lost their relationship to company performance a while ago.....
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 12:44 PM
Dec 2022

Institutional and fund holdings regulate the stock price; not earnings.

I'm sure tesla's sales are hurting, but that won't directly impact stock prices as long as the shot callers hold their stakes.

Gore1FL

(22,983 posts)
14. It was 399.93 on 1-1-22
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 02:48 PM
Dec 2022

It hit a "temporary" low of 254.68 on 2-23-22.
On 4-4-22 it hit it's last peak at 381.82.

Right now it's value is what it was in November of 2020 with no clear sign of or reason for a rebound.

Stuckinthebush

(11,218 posts)
20. Yes this isn't just a short term crash
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 03:26 PM
Dec 2022

It's a trend. Given Tesla problems coupled with Musk's tanking of his brand I'd imagine it'll continue to slide.

RAB910

(4,030 posts)
6. For reference the market as a whole is up a bit. This is all due to Musk acting like a first rate
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 12:51 PM
Dec 2022

asshole

patphil

(9,230 posts)
7. I looked at Tesla's (TSLA) stock history.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 12:52 PM
Dec 2022

On 9/19/22, it was at 309. Today it's at 171.

With Muskie shooting off his mouth with such ridiculous statements, I expect it will continue to fall.
I agree that at some point the stockholders will rebel.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
19. The history is all over the place. A Tweet about a few hours is...tweet worthy, not much other worth.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 03:19 PM
Dec 2022

patphil

(9,230 posts)
23. Going back to January of this year, it was approximately $400 a share.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:21 PM
Dec 2022

As of this post it's about 168; down by almost 60% from its year high.

Of course the other reason the stock is dropping is competition. Tesla is still the top dog in full electrics, but it's share of new all electric sales will continue to drop as other auto makers come into the all electric market.
Add that to Muskie's radical political position and that stock will continue it's downward trend.
Investors may not care about a company's politics, but car buyers do.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
24. Exactly. Competition will be fierce in the future where the stock market gazes.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 06:10 PM
Dec 2022

No good alternative to Tesla now, the company a decade ahead of its time.

Decade over soon.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,807 posts)
8. This guy has many irons in the fire but
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 12:55 PM
Dec 2022

"to big to fail" I don't know, It's looking like there are chinks in the armor.

Tetrachloride

(9,709 posts)
9. 52 PE ratio. One statistic but its one of the big ones.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 12:56 PM
Dec 2022

For people new to these numbers. PE numbers over 20, okay 30) mean strong growth and or over priced.

PE under 10 means no growth expected and may crash. Or it’s undervalued.

Cha

(320,742 posts)
16. lol.. I bet musk just loves
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 03:00 PM
Dec 2022

the Hoarse.. .. Not as much as I do!!

TY, hpd.. so glad mush isn't getting away with his shit.

70sEraVet

(5,632 posts)
17. The problem seems to be, that the Tesla brand is tied too closely to Musk's personality.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 03:03 PM
Dec 2022

They are inseparable, like conjoined twins. So that when one starts to fall from grace, it brings the other down. Musk makes everything about him, so that a Tesla stock is a Musk stock.
I wouldn't buy one.

LudwigPastorius

(15,024 posts)
18. Most investors don't care about the CEO's politics.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 03:17 PM
Dec 2022

This is one day of trading, and any recent downward trend has more to do with potential COVID lockdowns in China than Musk beclowning himself.

Zorro

(18,901 posts)
21. I suspect it is more than that
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 03:33 PM
Dec 2022

Musk's behavior is offensive to a lot of current and potential future customers, and is making people consider viable alternatives. I would not be surprised if other car companies make significant gains in the EV marketplace over the next couple of years to the detriment of Tesla's current market share, which has been drifting down over the last year; Musk's escapades will probably accelerate that trend.

I also suspect that Musk and Peter Thiel communicate with each other quite a bit, since they share a common Paypal history -- and that Thiel has made an influence on Musk's political views.

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