Mark Meadows' phone is everything Republicans wish Hunter Biden's laptop was

[CousinIT]

[Tickle]

1. Have you seen Hunter's laptop?

I have not

[dutch777]

3. Or any actual data from it that is somehow incriminating? Another Repug Nothingburger.

And if Hunter did something illegal, by all means prosecute.

[exboyfil]

9. I don't think they stand a chance of demonstrating provenance

given the laptop was in the possession of a known adversarial third party.

Does any prosecutor want Rudy G. on the witness stand? Does he want to subject himself to awkward questions in which he will have to invoke the 5th amendment.

[kwijybo]

15. Actually worse than that.

A laptop was given to a legally blind person by someone identifying themselves as "Hunter Biden". The computer repair person can't identify who it was that brought the computers, and didn't bother to get any contact information.

When the computer repair person started repairing the computer (it had water damage and the hard drive needed replacing), he turned on the computer, and used it to copy the faulty hard drive to another one, a file at a time. I've never done repairs for a living, but I've done them for myself, family, and friends: the part in italics makes me cringe! (All of the forensic evidence on the original is altered by that, and the copy is suspect at best at this point)

Then, the 'copy' he made for himself, was passed on to Rudy, and then 'copies' were passed on to other RWNJ personalities, who made comments based on, theoretically, what they 'found' on the hard drive.

Is it any wonder that HB's lawyers are looking at defamation lawsuits?

[OverBurn]

19. I build PC's for Me, Friends and Family and fix a lot of junk. I don't understand why a shop would

go to the trouble of recovering a laptop that wasn't brought in with info on whom to return it to. That's a lot of unneeded hassle, recovering stuff costs time and money, you'd get a name and phone number.

Typically I'd just installed a new hard drive, put a fresh operating system and a few free useful programs and ship it down the road. You just don't waste time on a junk laptop with no instructions to do so and a real contact.

If it really was Hunter's laptop, why would he drop it off to be fixed with no contact info?

Even if he did and it is his laptop, it's either incriminating or not. It's been years and not one juicy bit of info has been released. Talk about working slow, this puts a new meaning to slow.

The entire thing is just too weird to believe.

[kwijybo]

22. Exactly

And why would the repair guy accept it without double checking the contact info, for that very reason?

And nothing appears to be "too weird to believe", where the MAGAts are concerned. Remember, these are the same people that believe that the COVID vaccine has tagging microchips that get injected into us along with the vaccine.

I usually get dying ones with "And save all the pictures and stuff on it!". Ask about backups, and you get, "what are backups". I end up using ddrescue or the like to clone the disk, fixing the sectors that can be fixed. Doesn't require me to be there to copy the next file, for certain.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

24. Even worse than that, they made new folders on it and moved stuff around

At least that is what they have admitted to.

For all we know, they may have had it on the internet as well and it could have been hacked before, hacked during, and hacked afterward.

[OAITW r.2.0]

10. And would you believe anything that was found on it?

Would anything on it be admissible as evidence, given the chain of custody and provenance of the acquisition?

[ShazzieB]

30. I wouldn't believe one iota of it.

IANAL, but I don't understand how anything on there could be admissible in court. There is no chain of custody whatsoever.

[azureblue]

12. the GOP problem with the data

is that someone put files on it - after the so called "discovery" date. Some IT10T Didn't know that files are encoded with the creation date. And this means the drive has been tampered with, not to mention the laptop has been through several hands and the guy who claims to be the repair man, has been selling clones of the drive..

It's worse than a nothing burger, because it will be easy to trace back who put files on the drive, after the fact, and how modified files that were already on it. When the GOP figures this one out, suddenly, the whole thing will quietly fade away.. .

[OverBurn]

20. I have a free little program that changes the Date Created, Date Modified, Date Last Accessed of

any file. eXpress TimeStamp Toucher, google it if you want it. It's useful at times. When you move files from one partition to another it can change that info, sometimes you don't want it to, especially some pictures. Every photo taken has some extra info embedded in it, but these can be changed also with simple little free programs.

I'm not sure files have any more hidden info in them. Maybe Forensic PC specialists could get more info? Anyway they could probably easily tell if it's been messed with.

They even have professional grade Forensic PC software out there for free.

[Danascot]

14. That won't keep the GOP from holding months of hearings about it

and harassing multiple "witnesses" by making them testify.

[Kingofalldems]

7. What is that supposed to mean?

[IronLionZion]

18. That proves deep state is covering it up

[mzmolly]

29. What are we supposed to be seeking on it?

He's a private citizen and always has been.

[louis-t]

31. Actually, I've read there were 3 actual laptops.

Supposedly, the FBI has the actual laptop and el stubido at the repair shop made copies, and there are copies of copies, and a lot of them had stuff added. Yeah, that'll hold up in court. All they have to do is make the plaintiffs bring in every known copy of the hard drive.

[mucifer]

2. Will see how above the law these lawmakers are

I am not optimistic .But, hoping to be surprised.

[gab13by13]

4. Too bad we don't have Meadow's burner phone.

Jack Smith needs to go after Meadows hard, indict him, don't give him immunity, he appears the type to flip on Trump.

[azureblue]

13. Meadows' phone story

will drown out the Laptop story. If the GOP tries to amp up their pile of lies, they will be seen as pathetic, in the face of the facts from Meadows' phone. Which has already, within 24 hours exposed 34 GOPers as trying to overthrow the government.. And that is just the start

[vapor2]

32. Meadows should already be in jail

for voting in 2 states, right?

[brush]

5. Why that's the biggest tranche of evidence since Comey used Weiner's laptop...

to cheat Hillary and the nation out of her presidency, and grant us WITH THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER.

Only Meadow's texts are new and highly incriminating evidence against him and other republican coup attempters, and not already examined, retread bullshit that was soon dismissed—but not before the damage was done, from which the nation still has a long way recover from, if ever.

Woohoo. I can almost hear indictments being drawn up already and prison door hinges being oiled up for new occupants.

[Takket]

6. I'm curious what else is out there

The Meadows text I hate to say, the ones we’ve seen, didn’t seem criminal themselves. But could be part of a larger plan. Like Jim Jordan spouting bullshit legal interpretations about the founding fathers might be a horrible take but it isn’t illegal to say it.

Nor is planning to object to electors because again while the reasoning for it is bullshit Congress-members do have the legal right to object.

What I’m looking for is the “we need to get the crowd to riot to stop the count” messages.

[gab13by13]

8. What's legal about pretending to be electors?

People signed their names to a piece of paper claiming to be electors for Donald Trump. That is not objecting to electors, that is falsifying to be the real electors.

[Takket]

21. I was speaking specifically about the released Meadows texts

I agree the fake electors should be charged with fraud but that is separate from the texts. What I mean is the texts ALONE aren’t enough to charge someone like Jim Jordan for sedition. But if there is other evidence out there he was recruiting oath keepers to get violent, then his texts here could be additional evidence as to his intent.

[rubbersole]

16. tfg's speech on the ellipse was the incitement to riot.

Impeachment followed. The J6 report with interview transcripts is going to be America's Christmas present.

[KS Toronado]

17. I thought the FBI had looked into the laptop story

and dismissed it as bullshit.

[Ford_Prefect]

36. They looked at the chain of evidence and the content and said essentially that

neither was convincing nor untainted.

FYI there is only supposition that any laptop of Hunters was ever in the hands of the shop. The so-called copy has so many suspicious flaws as to be worthless. The people who made the "duplicate" hard drive public claimed it was an accurate copy but forensic exams have found evidence that it could not be.

The timing and the chain of evidence both beg the question of its provenance. Several sources have pointed out that it resembles the kind of disinformation Putin's Trolls excel at.

[Cha]

23. TY nt

[IcyPeas]

25. I remember seeing that quote except it was Alex Jones' phone that his lawyer

accidentally handed over

[republianmushroom]

26. 22 months and counting DoJ

[Hortensis]

27. That's for sure! Hoping it also explains the $2 BILLION the Sawdis

gave President TFG's son-in-law.

[Mr.Bill]

28. If I owned a computer repair shop

and I found incriminating evidence on a customer's laptop, I'm sure the first person I would call is Rudy Giulliani, then hand it over to him.

[usonian]

33. I would post images from the web of what was sitting on Don's laptop

but decency prevents me from showing pictures of minors.
You have seen them.

[argyl]

34. The GQP really has a talent for taking something of little value to them.

Like Hunter's laptop, of which basically nothing has been shown to be harmful to our government.and for the first time in over 40 years of government service Hunter's Dad is not even in government.
And The Dotard pays no attention to the fact that his daughter and son in law were denied clearance to the jobs he wanted for them and got their access, legal or not.
And in the meantime the laptop belonging to a man whose father is out of government for the first time in decades may, or may not, have maybe a few shots of soft core porn. If it has even that much on it it hasn't been proven.
Meanwhile, Jared and Ivanka, of all the people undeserving of access to top secrets, get their clearance through daddy's arm twisting, possible blackmail, you name it. But that's important; anything for furtherance of ill gotten knowledge at best, or more likely, outright treason, to be used for blackmail or, worse yet, to be sold to enemies of the state for profit, all they give a damn about.
And Hunter's pix are probably more along the lines of dull hetero nude pix. If they exist. Which they don't.
I just used a phony story to show how foolish this laptop BS is in comparison to the real crimes The Dotard, Ivanka, and Jerod had a hand in. Donny Jr. and Eric no doubt tried their hands at a little espionage but were so lousy at it they were told to knock it off.

[chriscan64]

35. The laptop thing is a simple controversy for simple minds.

We may have heard tidbits of what is on the laptop, but the main point is that it could have something on it. Like Hillary's emails, the fact that there is unknown data to them is proof that something is being hidden, therefore: guilty. This whole thing does not even have the rigor of "if she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood..."