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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIsn't Musk proving by his singular control of Twitter that Twitter is a private corporation?
Therefore as a private corporation controlled by a single private human being, clearly the First Amendment has no fucks to give to apply?
Therefore any legislation designed to use the first amendment as a sword rather than a shield as intended to protect against Government restrictions, all such legislation is doomed on arrival, in the absence of federal hate speech laws.
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All that is not helpful to Republicans wanting to unleash hate by explicitly regulating
social media to be even more of a wasteland of hate than it already is.
orthoclad
(2,910 posts)He can sink the platform into a cesspool (per Fauci), lose tons of money for all his companies, and still achieve his goal and the goal of his class: domination.
Tesla stock sinking? Look at the tesla board: Larry Ellson, Kimball Musk (brother), James Murdoch (Fox). The goals are political, not financial.
Thousands of jobs lost and lives thrown into turmoil? Good result, for the owner class.
Elmo controlling twitter as a platform is like Rupert Murdoch buying Fox. Our best, thin hope is that it fails.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)orthoclad
(2,910 posts)A medium of global-scale communication and community must not be prone to the whims of private ownership.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)hate speech guidelines closely following in place federal criminal code laws. All subject eventually to public hearings and Parliamentary and Cabinet approval through regular due process.
Its still in blueprint stage, rollout unknown.
Could a Public Communication platform be the replacement to corporate, private, or solo ownership of social media platforms, on a nation by nation basis?
Zeitghost
(3,869 posts)Making enforcement against anything short of calls to violence hard to moderate.
orthoclad
(2,910 posts)prvate ownersip, whether Wall Street or zilionaires.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Solo ownership even more than corporate can not regulated in a nation recognizing and enforcing free speech freedoms from government restrictions. Another thing Musk is exposing!
Its like the legislature telling a homeowner what can be said in their castle.
orthoclad
(2,910 posts)order of magnitude greater than home ownership (not to mention renters). What the Forbes 900 have is like the difference between owning a puppy and owning a zoo.
But yes, the property laws of capitalism vigorously protect property rights. Unless you're Joe Schmoe and the cops break your door down.
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Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)moonshinegnomie
(2,491 posts)if you were a kick ass engineer in high demand looking for a new job tesla would be about the last place you would want to work now.
if you are looking for an EV and tend to the liberal side (like most EV buyers) tesla wont be a consideration any longer for a lot of them.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)orthoclad
(2,910 posts)at Tesla -- they tried hard for a long time to make something good.
Maybe if Tesla bottoms out, better owners could step in and buy it.
A dream: make it a worker-owned co-op.
orthoclad
(2,910 posts)to the obscenely wealthy; a few corporations are just collateral damage in the class war. Domination and protection of their class is more important.
Tesla was doomed anyway. It made its money from two things:
-selling emissions credits to polluters
-the consumer tax credit, which enabled people to afford Tesla cars.
Cars are a necessary "pet rock" byproduct to enable those two things.
It looks like those revenue streams are drying up due to competition.
I feel bad for their actual (not pretend, Elmo) engineers, techs, and factory workers who tried hard to produce a useful product, and who will face unemployment.
Johnny2X2X
(19,116 posts)Until these last few weeks I had no idea there was porn on Twitter. Seen several instances of it, and the hardcore variety, not just nudes.
Seriously, is this new? This needs to be regulated like other porn sites and children should not be on Twitter.
womanofthehills
(8,774 posts)Look above the tweet and see who retweeted it and delete them.