He's Not Selling Cards!

[kpete]

The $100 digital cards that not even his most devout boomer followers will be buying for themselves or their grandkids is a front! He is funneling foreign money in through the decentralized, unregulated NFT market. Really stop and think about it.

Link to tweet

?s=20&t=LUR90RCPR7j0b55Dplm1uw

[underpants]

1. Yep. My wife and I discussed this last night.

Oh and he says they already sold out. Uh huh.

[gab13by13]

2. Absolutely, Trump is brilliant,

He gets everyone to laugh at him while he is raking in millions from foreign cronies.

This is a good way for foreign governments to pay for the classified documents that Trump gave them.

Trump is brilliant, an evil genius, and he does his crimes in the open for all to see, and laugh at.

[William Seger]

17. The most successful con men are those that know...

... how to exploit the mark's greed. Like bitcoin, people are only buying these in hopes of getting rich when the price goes up.

[NJCher]

21. I wish you wouldn't say things like

“Trump is brilliant” around teachers. We have been dealing with IQ for decades and know it when we see it. At best trump has a finely developed criminal sense, which when combined with extreme psychological neediness, precipitates such possibilities as are being discussed here.

The truly brilliant don’t get caught and this evil f*+k is caught up in a mass of lawsuits that challenges even the justice departments of a country like the U.S.

Hey, it’s a political forum and you can say what you want but as a teacher for 30 years, I think you’re mischaracterizing.

You might find a teacher or two that would disagree with me but on the whole, “brilliant” should be reserved for those who are truly insightful and who have broad intellectual acumen.

[Seinan Sensei]

24. Clever maybe

Cunning, crafty, or wily maybe.
Can read a room, maybe.

But definitely NOT brilliant.

[DeeDeeNY]

80. But what about this?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/23/person-woman-man-camera-tv-trump-insists-cognition-test-was-difficult

[Sogo]

28. Very well stated, NJCher.

Thank you for making that point!

[jmbar2]

29. Agree

Trump didn't come up with this scam. Someone that understands the value of exploiting his infamy did. They'll bank, he'll bank. The investigations will ensue. He has to run ponzi-type operations to pay for the last failed scheme.

[Lokee11]

38. Exactly!

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That orange muthafucker is a fucking idiot!!! He is however immoral and will be in on any scheme (thought up by others) that will benefit him. Brilliant my A$$!!!

That illiterate jack ass probably can't even count pass 10 because his Orange fat ass can't see his toes anymore. One thing he will do though, is agree to do bullshit others think of - if they can show him it benefits him. If this a$$hole had even a lick of sense/intelligence we'd all be way more fucked than we already were/are, because the only reason he is not still "in power" is because of his stupidity in how he handled things after he swindled his way into the Whitehouse.

FUCK DONALD TRUMP - The day he gets sent to hell this world will become a much better place - addition by subtraction!

✊FDT!

[oswaldactedalone]

84. Yes, well said.

[Pepsidog]

87. TFG wouldn't know an NFT from a BLT. He is not brilliant, he is a criminal.

[Bucky]

95. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest maybe Trump didn't come up with this payoff scheme

[Bo Zarts]

22. Trump doesn't know Jack!

Jack Smith, that is.

[Fiendish Thingy]

37. Trump didn't think of this NFT scam himself. Nt

[Turbineguy]

61. I wish he was as good a president as he is a grifter.

No I don't.

[lame54]

70. He could have done this without...

The laughingstock announcement that is turning off his base

[dalton99a]

3. It is plain as day

The career criminal is brazen and shameless

[leftyladyfrommo]

4. Sold out in 12 hours. $500,000. People will believe

anything. .

It's amazing. No wonder there are so many scam operations operating here. It's a great way to make a whole lot of money.

Step Right Up. Folks!

[Lochloosa]

6. Math's a little off: 45,000 cards @ 99.00 each $4,455,000.00

The Orange Jesus wouldn't get out of bed for 1/2 a mill.

[leftyladyfrommo]

9. That's just what I read this morning. There will be more

on it during the day.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

5. Unregulated market, OK, but...

...but since he's announced to the world the price of the cards and the number available, isn't he saying he's taken in exactly X amount of money? And wouldn't he have to document that income and its source(s) for the IRS?

"I Just Wasn't Made for These Times" --Brian Wilson

[milestogo]

12. Apparently he doesn't believe in reporting his income to the IRS

and he knows that he'll be long gone before they catch up with him.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

48. It goes to a company that pays another company that tRump appears to own. Tax shaving every step. nt

[FM123]

7. Yep.

Just like he wasn't really selling a house to that Russian oligarch Rybolovlev back in 2008 for $95 million dollars. He was laundering money.

[gab13by13]

8. You get it,

No one ever lived in the house, it was bulldozed over.

Just like Trump Tower in Baku Azerbaijan. It didn't even have an access road to it. It even laundered money for the Iranian Republican Guard.

[OMGWTF]

44. I'll bet that his failed casinos were also a money laundering operation.

[sarcasmo]

54. Yep, Russian money laundering. Link below

https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/politics/trump-taj-mahal/index.html

[soldierant]

88. Quite possible this too

is a foreign money laundering operation.

[Torchlight]

10. He's selling just another bill of goods to the same target-market

who were excited about, and paid for, Pet Rocks and Sea Monkeys; with about the same marketing campaigns as well.

My guess is he's fleecing his flock of feckless ferrets for a new revenue-stream to help offset his increasingly large legal bills is my guess.

[pnwmom]

25. No, the tweeter is right. He's using a non-fungible digital product to allow ANYONE

to secretly transfer money to him, including foreigners and criminals

[Torchlight]

32. My knowledge of NFTs is limited to a few bullet points.

and I'm in no position to argue it one way or the other.

But if he's doing as stated, isn't it a huge, flashing, neon Welcome sign on his door to every conceivable investigative body imaginable?

It comes across (to me) as counter-productive. Though I know less about moving money in large sums than I do about NFTs, I'd guess there's a much quieter way to do it.



Dammit. Pretty sure the curiosity bug bit me and I'll wind up going down a rabbit hole this weekend looking all over the web about moving large sums of money and NFTs. Monday I'll wear a shirt that reads, 'Feds: Please don't ask me about my questionable search history '

[Hortensis]

62. Agree. I've OD'd in too many rabbit holes though.

As for my weird search history, I like to think the government computers have categorized my pattern and mostly discard on first sweep.

[pnwmom]

73. You could read Kurt Eichenwold's piece to start.

https://threats.substack.com/p/trumps-trading-card-grift-is-worse?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&fbclid=IwAR0arXI_Ti-o7xSgOirl2Mw9n_Kp7aYevx3KNFlKL1oWl5KU8rX_iTd4OYs

[Srkdqltr]

11. Of course it is. Supposedly they are sold out. 4.something million to Trump.

How do you sell out virtual? Yes I know.

[Ocelot II]

15. NFTs are electronically marked, so it's possible to keep track of how many are sold.

However, IIRC, in his announcement TFG said something about this being the first collection of these things, which implies there will be more.

[pnwmom]

27. But the numbers won't be disclosed. n/t

[Srkdqltr]

51. Since this bunch is sold out you know he will put out some more.

Easy money.

[Ocelot II]

13. Of course. Was there ever any question?

NFTs are easy to use for money laundering and other illegal transactions. It's probably why they still exist, since the legit market for them collapsed months ago.

[babylonsister]

14. How can something digital be sold out?

Should be an endless supply, no?

I wish I could believe there weren't that many stoopid people out there, but we know better. A fool and his money...and AFAIK, nothing physical will come in the mail for their troubles.

[Ocelot II]

16. NFT items are digitally marked, like a sort of watermark,

so there can be a finite number of them and they can't be copied as "originals." This is what supposedly makes them valuable, because they can be resold - which is their real purpose anyhow. None of this shit is art, it's like Pokemon cards. You issue limited numbers so the value (supposedly) increases. And the anonymity of the transaction makes them useful for money laundering and purchase by foreign entities who are barred from contributing to US political campaigns, so...

[babylonsister]

19. Thank you for that explanation!

I guess I should know what NFT means by this point, but I don't.

[BumRushDaShow]

43. NFT stands for "Non-fungible Token"

In the old days, we called that "vaporware", although the claim here is this stuff "exists", with an implied "proof receipt" (but then who manages the "blockchain" that records the ownership, and so on? ).

[babylonsister]

49. And thank you!! nt

[BumRushDaShow]

55. You're welcome!

More "crypto" stuff.

[Mosby]

31. Skinner is a digital artist

Here's his page:

https://www.fxhash.xyz/u/David%20Brice%20Allen/creations

[brush]

18. Of course he's not. He's selling NFTs which are worthless online images.

Most people are long since aware of what a scam/grift NFTs are by now. His wife tried that last year but they were withdrawn because of lack of sells.

[pnwmom]

30. It's the GOVERNMENT he's cheating. "Buyers" are actually donors who are able to pass

him money this way.

[brush]

33. Maybe, but who believes sales figures from trump.

And claiming they were sold out at a gross of 4.5 million, how do you sell out pixels? NFTs can be recreated over and over ad infinitum.

More likely the offering was a flop as the NFT craze is over and no one was interested. The right wing sites commentators are all extremely disappoint at the bs, so-called major announcement and many are saying they're through with him as they expected maybe a VP running mate name, or finally real evidence of 2020 election fraud, certainly not another grifting scam.

I don't believe people are rushing to funnel money to trump anymore after his last few weeks of horrid legal and anti-Semitic dining ridiculousness.

[pnwmom]

57. Lots of people don't have to funnel money to him. He could be using this set-up so

just a handful could secretly give him large sums of money.

[erronis]

36. That's my assumption, also. Another way to hide transactions.

[BumRushDaShow]

45. Lots of lawyers need to be paid

and that's probably a good way to get quick cash for those retainers...

[Lonestarblue]

20. Trump is a pro at laundering illegal money. He's been doing it for years.

Real estate and casinos are prime vehicles for laundering illegal money. Republicans make such a big stink about sex crimes and then turn around and vote for people like Trump who help “clean” money from international drug and sex trafficking cartels. Orange Jesus, indeed.

[SoCalDavidS]

23. Teflon. nt

[Woodwizard]

34. Any one who sells their card has to pay 10 percent of the price back.

It is right on the website.

[Hortensis]

63. Of sale price?

He may be hoping these things become collectors items and being him would expect the price to soar and the hundreds of thousands and even millions someday. They’re certainly cheap enough to produce, little to lose that way.

I just had a thought of his less favorite children being bequeathed these things as wealth. 🤭

[Woodwizard]

86. Of current market value.

Even if they go down in price he still gets a cut.

[Hortensis]

96. Wow. Wonder what's in the small print on tRump steaks.

This just inspired me to wonder what else he's selling, and there's a whole department store at Trump Org's trumpstore.com. Buyers should check the fine print before wearing the cross-body purse, just in case he retains rights to anything placed in it, and of course it.

[Fiendish Thingy]

35. Yes, but unless he's only accepting crypto payments, the money can still be traced

I’m assuming the vast majority of purchases will be made with credit cards or wire transfers, which leave a trail. Where the money goes after the seller receives it is another matter.

[VEGANGTA]

39. I totally agree

This is his latest money laundering scam so Russia and the Saudis can funnel corruption money his way.

Good call.

[Wonder Why]

40. I bought some of those cards and posted them on my new pay Twitter account.

Those cards are great for my collection.

I have a first edition Benedict Arnold card already.

I can't wait for the Giuliani, Lake, Green and Boebert ones to be released. I pre-ordered those.

Then, too, I ordered MAGA hats for my Proud Boy and Oath Taker friends.

I downloaded a copy of the Constitution to my computer then burned it (my Hunter Biden brand computer) to show my support for the Republican Party.

Lastly, I woke up. Had an awful nightmare. Gotta stop drinking that KKKool-Aid from Ye Holy Friend.

[relayerbob]

41. Laundering his money from the sale of clssified docs

is what my wife and I decided. Any rubes stupid enough to give him cash is just icing on the cake.

[pnwmom]

72. Exactly. nt

[chowder66]

42. What if it is one, or more buyers who are paying him for classified information he handed over?

[emulatorloo]

50. A very good question.

[chowder66]

52. Thanks. I thought it maybe sounded a bit tin-foil hat but with him, you can never know.

[dlk]

46. More money laundering

The felonies never end.

[barbtries]

47. well of course he is.

NFTs gotta be one of the biggest baldest money scams out there.

[hamsterjill]

53. Asking the obvious one more time...

Then why the phuck isn’t the asshole in jail?

[calimary]

66. I'm still asking that one, too.

Why isn’t he in JAIL???

[SheltieLover]

56. Right!

No doubt racking up more wire fraud charges. And SC is watching...

[republianmushroom]

58. somebody has

https://www.coindesk.com/web3/2022/12/16/trump-nft-collection-sells-out-price-surges/


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217469545


https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3777969-trumps-digital-cards-sell-out-within-a-day/

[Initech]

59. I can sum up what he's selling in two words: some bullshit.

NFTs are a scam and a joke. They can be easily stolen and there's no accountability for any of it. And you're basically spending $99 for something that's about as worthless and useful as a Beanie Baby. The sad thing is Trump's idiot fan base will snatch all of them up, because they spend money on a lot of stupid shit.

[calimary]

68. At least a Beanie Baby was an actual tangible thing.

You could hold one in your hand, toss it around, get it for your kid, or something. A Beanie Baby was actually REAL.

[Initech]

69. Certainly true!

[wryter2000]

60. Okay, now a boomer joke ticked me off

I see no evidence that boomers make up most of his following. The people who tried to take over the government weren't boomers. I'll be the brunt of jokes about stupid white people because his fans are white, including women, but boomers aren't to blame for this mess.

[love_katz]

79. Thank you.

This boomer absolutely HATES A golf Twitler . I have despised the R party going all the way back before Tricky Dicky. Yes, I am that old.

[ThoughtCriminal]

64. The political damage was way more than anything he made off the deal

Almost everyone, even on the far-right thinks he looked like an idiot.

[ificandream]

65. Congress needs to investigate this money-laundering scheme.

[AllaN01Bear]

67. what is nft?

[Niagara]

71. Here's a link to explain nft.

https://www.investopedia.com/non-fungible-tokens-nft-5115211|

[AllaN01Bear]

74. thanks for your information

[Captain Zero]

75. Top Secrets Docs encrypted into the pixels

Is my bet.

Especially the cards that are only one of a kind, and those are conveniently going to be purchased by a buyer who will funnel more money into his property schemes.

It's a twofer. Money laundering and Espionage.

He's a National Security Nightmare. Still.

[Genki Hikari]

76. Oh for crying out loud

This is as stupid and tin-foil-hat as anything the MAGA do. At least half of all r thugs are still gung ho for that..thing. That's 35 million adults, minimum.

Plenty enough to buy whatever he sells.

It's stupid to promote useless trash like this unless you have concrete evidence to back it up. We're supposed to be better than those conspiracy-addled nitwits, not as bad or as stupid.

[SunSeeker]

91. Then why did he limit sales to 100 cards per purchaser?

Limiting it to 100 per person means purchases are limited to $9900. That's under the $10,000 threshold that initiates questions about the money. What other reason would he have for the money being limited to under $10k, other than money laundering?

[ProfessorGAC]

77. Not Buying It

I think it's far simpler.
He needs the money!
Debt load is massive, revenues have been in the tank for 5 years, and he personally backed some of the promissory paper.
Keeping the wolves at bay is a much simpler explanation. We all know he was never close to as rich as he pretended to be. And, it only got worse as revenues fell & inflated asset values got adjusted. D

[ecstatic]

93. But what idiot who has that much money laying around

would give it to trump? Your point makes sense but what doesn't make sense is who the target audience is. Is it a trumper with a lot of disposable income who purchases nft without having any idea what the fuck it is? Because I don't think someone who knows what nft is would have anything to do with this particular grift. Maybe other grifts but not this one.

[YoshidaYui]

78. Agree its

Trump’s bullshit!

[quakerboy]

81. Thats the obvious part.

I feel like the less obvious part is who and why.

[keithbvadu2]

82. Politicians/candidates sell their books by multiple cases to political orgs, countries, interest gro

Politicians/candidates sell their books by multiple cases to political orgs, countries, interest groups to bypass donation limits.

At full retail price of course.

[Rhiannon12866]

83. Twitter replies:

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[JohnnyRingo]

85. I understand that's possible. But...

He's only worth foreign money as long as he's influential.

Saudi Princes dont give him money to get a good room. Once his cult goes down the drain the money faucet will dry up, leaving only the sink scum.

[edhopper]

99. He had a lot of Classified documents

to sell

[GoodRaisin]

89. Makes sense, but surprised he would soil himself that badly in order to do it.

Almost any scam he could dream up wouldn’t make himself look like that big of a clown. But he proves over and over he has no shame.

[SunSeeker]

90. Limit 100 per person...$9900. Under the $10k threshold that triggers reporting requirements.

Perfect money laundering vehicle.

[ecstatic]

92. Why is a presidential candidate allowed to do this?

Our system has a lot of vulnerabilities that are well documented at this point. The holes need to be plugged immediately.

[Bucky]

97. Who would be the permission-granting authority in this case?

No one wants to live in a world where grown ups have to get permission to be allowed to do new things to make a living. The measure of civility is that people who are leaders either don't do unseemly things or are not respected as leaders. The measure of Trump's (hopefully) fleeting hour on the stage is that we've all become a little less civilized for having him around.

[murielm99]

94. Boomer?

What? I am a boomer. So are many DU members. This group tends to be older.

Most of the magats I see in and around my community are younger. They are not boomers.

[gulliver]

98. His openly saying you can use crypto to buy the cards is classic Trump

Yeah, he wants money from wherever it comes from. Money laundering, just like collusion with Russia and inciting insurrection, is fine if you just do it on camera. Hell, Trump will use this to rake in money from oligarchs and drug dealers. Then he'll "buy" property from the oligarchs and drug dealers at a huge markup as a kickback. And all of it under the protection of the Trump cult Republican Party.

It's not a given that this will even hurt him politically. People who are sure this will be the final straw haven't been watching the Trump Show.