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Tanuki

(14,921 posts)
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 09:22 AM Dec 2022

"Almost as botched as Monkey Christ!" National Gallery masterpiece restored/ruined

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/dec/17/national-gallery-botched-restoration-nativity


"The National Gallery has ruined Christmas. Or, to be more precise, it has had a very good go at wrecking one of the world’s greatest Nativity paintings. The fact that Piero della Francesca’s Nativity is back on view for the festive season, after a three-year restoration the London gallery vaunts as careful and revealing, should be glad tidings. But my joy turned to ash when I saw it. What in the name of God inspired the restorers to paint two completely new and distractingly moronic shepherd’s faces? Or a big white blob on the stable wall?

The Nativity, a mysterious and elusive work of haunting wonder, has been, oh so carefully and responsibly, rendered clumsy and plodding, if not downright comical. Almost every colour has been altered, every line re-emphasised. It’s like a garish digital reconstruction of what the painting may have looked like in 1475 when it was new – except, instead of offering this as a hypothetical, it has been physically repainted or, in the evasive language of restorers, “retouched”.
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Yet expertise without artistic soul has produced an idiotic botch. This orange-faced man looks vacant and gormless, even constipated, his barely human eyes unfocused and lifeless. It’s like he’s trying to remember where he parked the donkey. The rest of the face, too, is clumsily done, with coarse shadows that attempt to define the nose and cheeks. It’s like a pastiche of Renaissance art by a very cheap, very bad app. The adjacent curly haired shepherd, who points heavenwards, is barely any better. He looks like a very earnest teenager throwing shapes at a school disco.

The reason why it is such a scandal to fabricate faces in Piero’s Nativity is that he painted expressions with a grave psychological truth. I don’t believe for one second this restoration is true to the original. There simply isn’t a more moving image of a company of singers, joined in their song. Or a more human Madonna. Compare their expressions with the inchoate ones added to the shepherd and you immediately see the problem."...(more, including pictures, at link)
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"Almost as botched as Monkey Christ!" National Gallery masterpiece restored/ruined (Original Post) Tanuki Dec 2022 OP
Somehow I thought this was going to be COL Mustard Dec 2022 #1
Sorry to disappoint...here's a small consolation.... Tanuki Dec 2022 #3
"Just as hideous as the first one.", the "first one" being Melania? marble falls Dec 2022 #5
I think that refers to the original hideous wooden statue, which was torched Tanuki Dec 2022 #7
I was making a joke. It fell flat. marble falls Dec 2022 #10
Not to me it didn't - I read the article and assumed they were referring to Malaria. Probatim Dec 2022 #16
And it was funny judesedit Dec 2022 #25
Most jokes Zeitghost Dec 2022 #30
That wasn't misogynistic. It was ad hominem. Lighten up. Self-rightousness is even goofier. marble falls Dec 2022 #31
Attacking any woman for her looks is misogyny Zeitghost Dec 2022 #33
But attacking her husband for the same reason is cool as shit. People who put themselves ... marble falls Dec 2022 #34
No, the fat shaming of Trump was sad to watch here Zeitghost Dec 2022 #37
If you thought for a second I am back tracking or excusing misogyny you are mistaken ... marble falls Dec 2022 #38
Like I said Zeitghost Dec 2022 #39
Repeating it doesn't make it true ... marble falls Dec 2022 #40
The constipated shepherd looks like Trump Docreed2003 Dec 2022 #2
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣....Seems to be a theme.... Tanuki Dec 2022 #6
I think Picasso got his hands somehow on that statue "restoration" area51 Dec 2022 #14
It was a Picasso "compatible" who appears to duplicate Picasso's style but to far lesser effect. Ford_Prefect Dec 2022 #24
Oh, dear. 3catwoman3 Dec 2022 #23
This is probably why most pofessionals Xavier Breath Dec 2022 #35
oh...that's just bad. paleotn Dec 2022 #13
call me cynical... Takket Dec 2022 #19
Jesus' hands should be around his neck. Xavier Breath Dec 2022 #36
Lol. It does judesedit Dec 2022 #26
Without having seen the restoration, I have to believe it is a total botch. Great review now I ... marble falls Dec 2022 #4
The article has before and after pictures... reACTIONary Dec 2022 #29
I think they turned a hat or crown into an afro - that's what it looks like to me. flor-de-jasmim Dec 2022 #8
Jebus.That was a terrible botch. But there was a bright point - this link ... marble falls Dec 2022 #9
That's what I was noticing too. 2naSalit Dec 2022 #18
The shepherd went from looking downward, eyes nearly closed, to looking straight at the viewer. femmedem Dec 2022 #11
This is the "woke" version Shermann Dec 2022 #15
Ha! femmedem Dec 2022 #17
Almost as botched as a whaaa? paleotn Dec 2022 #12
Mr. Bean speak easy Dec 2022 #20
Yikes! judesedit Dec 2022 #27
I had to look up Monkey Christ. 3catwoman3 Dec 2022 #21
I did, too. murielm99 Dec 2022 #22
Bowl-cut brown haired shepherd not quite Lloyd, but blonde shepherd definitely Harry. Wingus Dingus Dec 2022 #28
one suspects if you never saw the original you'd not give any mind at all nt msongs Dec 2022 #32

Tanuki

(14,921 posts)
3. Sorry to disappoint...here's a small consolation....
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 09:31 AM
Dec 2022
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the-sun.com/news/1489636/new-melania-trump-statue-botched-monkey-christ/amp/


"A 'HIDEOUS' new Melania Trump statue has been compared to the infamous botched art restoration dubbed the 'Monkey Christ.'

The new sculpture, erected close to her hometown of Sevnica in Slovenia, shows no obvious relation to Melania Trump's features.
...
The bronze monument of the First Lady is a replica of a wooden effigy that was burnt down by vandals on July 4.
....
However, it does not seem to show the First Lady's likeness - with a round face, long chin, and wonky nose.

Critics have called it "terrifying," saying that it "looks like a kindergartner drew it."

Another called it "a piece of s***."

A third said it is "Just as hideous as the first one."...(more, including pics)

Tanuki

(14,921 posts)
7. I think that refers to the original hideous wooden statue, which was torched
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 09:41 AM
Dec 2022

but then replicated in (fire resistant) bronze.

marble falls

(57,243 posts)
34. But attacking her husband for the same reason is cool as shit. People who put themselves ...
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 02:20 PM
Dec 2022

... out there changes things. Was she being misogynistic when she posed for her semi-nude photos?

She put her looks out there. She made herself a public figure. And maybe you need to back up and reread my exchange that has you so upset. I made no comment on her looks.

Zeitghost

(3,869 posts)
37. No, the fat shaming of Trump was sad to watch here
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 06:46 PM
Dec 2022

Make all the excuses you want, we both know what you wrote and what you meant, don't try to back pedal now. Her reasons for the modeling she did are hers.

Like I said, Be Better.

marble falls

(57,243 posts)
38. If you thought for a second I am back tracking or excusing misogyny you are mistaken ...
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 07:00 PM
Dec 2022

... using Milania as an example of misogynistic treatment of women is trivializing the evil of misogyny.

Without virtue signaling, I alert on every example of misogyny that shows up here I see: every.single.one. I jury against it: every.single.time. When I am on MIRT I vote nuke on every single misogynist MI every,single.time.

If you think I have broken any ToS here on misogyny, you have an obligation to alert my posts. I urge you to do it.

That "do better" exhortation applies to every one that wants to do good, and I welcome it. I have no apologies to make regarding anything I have ever said about Milania Trump.

Do better.

Zeitghost

(3,869 posts)
39. Like I said
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 07:04 PM
Dec 2022

We both know what you meant with your joke. It was an attack on her looks and implied she was hideous, a word meaning "ugly or disgusting to look at".

Calling women hideous and otherwise degrading their looks is misogyny, no matter how much you try to spin it.

marble falls

(57,243 posts)
40. Repeating it doesn't make it true ...
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 07:12 PM
Dec 2022

... And putting words into the mouths of people who never to any degree said what you purport is dishonest.

Do better!


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This what was referred to as ugly, etc. Maybe the sculptor is misogynistic?

Her bronze replacement statue:

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And then he doubled down. I think his intentions were good, the results are terrible.

Tanuki

(14,921 posts)
6. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣....Seems to be a theme....
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 09:39 AM
Dec 2022
https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2020/11/11/the-potato-head-of-palencia-defaced-spanish-statue-latest-victim-of-botched-restoration




"Conservation experts in Spain are once again calling for stricter regulations within the sector after yet another work has been irreparably damaged by an amateur restorer.

Adorning the facade of a high street bank in the north-western city of Palencia, the statue, first unveiled in 1923, once depicted a smiling woman carved among a pastoral scene of livestock. But following a disastrous restoration attempt, its face has been crudely reduced to "a cartoon head", writes local painter Antonio Guzmán Capel, who first brought the story to attention in a Facebook post.

The altered work has been described as a "potato" and has drawn comparisons to the US president Donald Trump. “Seeing as he has to leave the White House, he’s moved in here,” commented Victorio Macho Rogado in response to Capel's post.

The potato head of Palencia now joins a pantheon of other botched jobs in Spain, the most infamous of which still remains the 2012 "Monkey Christ" restoration of Elías García Martínez’s Ecce Homo fresco in the town of Borja. More recent incidents include a failed attempt in Valencia earlier this year to treat a painting of the Virgin Mary—which is a copy of a 17th-century work by the Spanish Baroque artist Bartolomé Esteban Murillo."....(more)

Takket

(21,629 posts)
19. call me cynical...
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 11:32 AM
Dec 2022

but after 7 years now of his followers doing insane things beyond imagination, why would it not surprise me that someone would think it possible and appropriate to surreptitiously insert his image into a painting like this? Recall that he is seen by his worshipers as a Christ like figure already, so why would it surprise us that they would see him as appropriate for this scene? Not only does the face appeared to by shaped like drumpf's but it is done in a deeper orange hue than all the others, including the other restored shepherd standing next to him.

and yes i am WELL AWARE this restoration took place in London but drumpf's cult extends far beyond our borders.

[link:|

marble falls

(57,243 posts)
4. Without having seen the restoration, I have to believe it is a total botch. Great review now I ...
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 09:36 AM
Dec 2022

... have to see it.

reACTIONary

(5,777 posts)
29. The article has before and after pictures...
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 12:57 PM
Dec 2022

... It's not that bad. And the before was a pretty degraded. I'm not up on the historical context, but if I were in the museum I would probably give it no more than a glance then walk on.

flor-de-jasmim

(2,125 posts)
8. I think they turned a hat or crown into an afro - that's what it looks like to me.
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 09:43 AM
Dec 2022

Also, it looks to me like the man has one eye looking down and one looking more or less straight out. If so, that nuance was lost.

It's really painful to look at the picture now. Heads should roll at the NG. If I remember right, it was a cleaning lady in Spain who turned the painting into the Monkey Christ - not that it's an excuse, but presumably qualified personnel were given the task at the NG.

marble falls

(57,243 posts)
9. Jebus.That was a terrible botch. But there was a bright point - this link ...
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 09:56 AM
Dec 2022
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/picture/2011/dec/12/nativity-piero-della-francesca#img-9

and all the other paintings in that gallery with it. 13 wonderful paintings.


The original shepherds look added in, too. They are out of scale with the figure in front of them. I am wondering if the original damage was resultant from a different paint that reacted badly.

There are two mysteries here - what was on the National Gallery's mind in that restoration, and were the two shepherds there when Pietro originally painted it.

femmedem

(8,208 posts)
11. The shepherd went from looking downward, eyes nearly closed, to looking straight at the viewer.
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 10:04 AM
Dec 2022

What a change to the psychology of the painting.

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