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bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 12:51 PM Dec 2022

Beijing locks itself down as a wave of cases and uncertainty follows 'zero Covid' retreat

NBC News
Dec. 17, 2022, 5:02 AM EST / Updated Dec. 17, 2022, 7:29 AM EST
By Marie Brockling, Angie Ling, Dorothy Kam and Olivia Guan

“More than half of my colleagues have Covid right now," one Beijing resident told NBC News of the virus surging through the capital of the world’s most populous country.

HONG KONG — Many people in China have bristled under the weight of “zero Covid” restrictions, strict measures to keep a tight grip on infections while much of the world opened back up.

Now those curbs are suddenly being swept aside in the wake of rare nationwide protests, and the capital of the world’s most populous country appears to be facing a wave of infections as the rapid policy shift presents new challenges ahead of the busy winter travel season.

Downtown Beijing was largely deserted this week as people seemingly stayed home to avoid infections. There are shortages of some medicines as residents stockpile them along with other supplies. Hospitals face a rise in patients and staff catching the virus. And there were social media reports of people panic-buying lemons and peaches after spurious social media trends suggested falsely that they were effective treatments.

“This is not a spike, this is a tsunami,” said Jin Dong-Yan, a professor at the University of Hong Kong who studies viral diseases… And because China has avoided large waves so far, it lacks the immunity through infection that many other countries have obtained as a side product of their massive and deadly waves.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/beijing-wave-cases-china-abandons-zero-covid-restrictions-rcna61633

Lots of new opportunities for the virus to mutate through some of the unvaccinated people in China. Worth keeping an eye on.

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Beijing locks itself down as a wave of cases and uncertainty follows 'zero Covid' retreat (Original Post) bronxiteforever Dec 2022 OP
They had the choice and chose virus. Srkdqltr Dec 2022 #1
They also have a much less effective vaccine Javaman Dec 2022 #6
Xi Jinping should have allowed people to use foreign-made vaccines. dalton99a Dec 2022 #2
+1 exactly and his regime chose to silence bronxiteforever Dec 2022 #3
On Google it said that 90% of the people are fully vaccinated. Did they use their own vaccine? Maraya1969 Dec 2022 #4
In the article it says bronxiteforever Dec 2022 #5
Interesting link. So it's not that the vaccine is necessarily crap. JanMichael Dec 2022 #8
Vaccinated with less effective Chinese vaccines. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #7
One gigantic Petri dish for the next variants 😕 Pluvious Dec 2022 #9
They have already seen B7 start in China and it's super infectious flamingdem Dec 2022 #10
+1 scary stuff. bronxiteforever Dec 2022 #12
+1 very disturbing and the lack of trust bronxiteforever Dec 2022 #11
Xi has also caused distrust in the Chinese population. Even tho the media is controlled erronis Dec 2022 #13
+1 Good point. bronxiteforever Dec 2022 #14

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
6. They also have a much less effective vaccine
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 01:09 PM
Dec 2022

And chose not to use any of the ones the rest of the world are using

Plus much of the older population is very suspicious of anything the Chinese government gives them. As a result much of the older population is unvaccinated and are now the group with the highest case load

Maraya1969

(22,501 posts)
4. On Google it said that 90% of the people are fully vaccinated. Did they use their own vaccine?
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 01:05 PM
Dec 2022

If not why are all these people getting sick?

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
5. In the article it says
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 01:09 PM
Dec 2022

The main worry is that millions of Chinese people — almost 1 in 3 over the age of 60, according to official figures — haven’t had a third booster shot, leaving them more exposed to serious illness.


Also this may explain it too
How China’s Sinovac compares with BioNTech’s mRNA vaccine
The need for three doses for similar protection has large implications for China
Apparently three doses is definitely required.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/04/19/how-chinas-sinovac-compares-with-biontechs-mrna-vaccine

JanMichael

(24,891 posts)
8. Interesting link. So it's not that the vaccine is necessarily crap.
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 01:32 PM
Dec 2022

Is that needed three doses to catch up Pfizer and started off slower. Then toss them in elderly people that don't get the third or the second vaccine and voila.

Kind of stunning though that they could manage to keep people stuck in their houses and got food delivered but couldn't get everyone stuck with the needle.

flamingdem

(39,328 posts)
10. They have already seen B7 start in China and it's super infectious
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 02:19 PM
Dec 2022

If you google it's already being talked about. ):

erronis

(15,339 posts)
13. Xi has also caused distrust in the Chinese population. Even tho the media is controlled
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 03:08 PM
Dec 2022

the people have lots of ways of exchanging information about what has happened.

He may have also demonstrated some weakness in his reactions. This could be very dangerous.

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