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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 02:58 PM Dec 2022

So, who wants to tell us that "watching soccer is like watching paint dry"?

Was with an NPR reporter who "never watches sports" and she got sucked in completely.

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So, who wants to tell us that "watching soccer is like watching paint dry"? (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2022 OP
people who claim that simply do not understand football, period, full stop nt Celerity Dec 2022 #1
Nope Joe Cool Dec 2022 #4
wrong, so wrong Celerity Dec 2022 #6
Right, right, right Joe Cool Dec 2022 #8
It's a game of strategy and skill angrychair Dec 2022 #13
Every other game has strategy and skill. Joe Cool Dec 2022 #32
The concept that a high score is the only thing that makes a sport good mcar Dec 2022 #40
Oh my gosh. Of course the score is the only thing that matters. Nothing else does! jimfields33 Dec 2022 #43
2-1 is a win. LOL mcar Dec 2022 #61
If the entire world disagrees with you jcgoldie Dec 2022 #64
If six scores (aside from the shootout) Joe Cool Dec 2022 #9
Hockey is often a low scoring game. Disaffected Dec 2022 #44
it's hard to score goals when the teams are fairly evenly matched, or if a lesser team, they go low Celerity Dec 2022 #53
There are SO many problems with soccer that could be Joe Cool Dec 2022 #11
Nice try Hav Dec 2022 #21
There were 9 refs on the field? Nope. Joe Cool Dec 2022 #33
A yellow card at the time means NOTHING but a change in possession. Joe Cool Dec 2022 #34
And getting a SECOND YELLOW card later in the game means... brooklynite Dec 2022 #57
No, again you are dead wrong, as I already explained. Celerity Dec 2022 #77
Soccer is such a poorly officiated sport. Joe Cool Dec 2022 #35
One ref on the field for 22 soccer players. Joe Cool Dec 2022 #36
So watch your fucking football 48656c6c6f20 Dec 2022 #67
Hold Up Now! ruet Dec 2022 #68
Soccer would automatically be astronomically better if they removed two players from each side Goodheart Dec 2022 #72
No. Go invent a new game if you do not like football's rules. Celerity Dec 2022 #76
You don't even understand some of the basic rules, and now you are trying to rewrite a game played Celerity Dec 2022 #75
That's what people who love baseball say about baseball. BannonsLiver Dec 2022 #16
This Thread Cements It For Me ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #46
Don't you love when soccer fans tell you "you just don't understand it"? Goodheart Dec 2022 #73
Oh, There's One Thing ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #79
It isn't interesting enough to take the time to understand it Kaleva Dec 2022 #62
That simple malaise Dec 2022 #63
Wrong Goodheart Dec 2022 #71
I was putting up "holiday" lights, but I did catch the last half of the game. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author 48656c6c6f20 Dec 2022 #3
I have an idea who would say that 48656c6c6f20 Dec 2022 #5
The vast majority of the time Joe Cool Dec 2022 #7
Soccer needs a shotclock. joshcryer Dec 2022 #20
Soccer needs about 50 rule changes. Joe Cool Dec 2022 #24
The thing that causes slow pace... joshcryer Dec 2022 #42
If a team gets up 3-0 Joe Cool Dec 2022 #45
One That Really Bugs Me Is... ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #48
The soccer offsides rule is completely stupid. Joe Cool Dec 2022 #50
MLB does a little too much though Polybius Dec 2022 #52
It is like watching France cry. GreenWave Dec 2022 #10
Right here, sparky. BannonsLiver Dec 2022 #12
It was a very exciting game. Tomconroy Dec 2022 #14
But still less exciting Joe Cool Dec 2022 #17
You score more points in American football and that makes it Tomconroy Dec 2022 #23
Watch soccer players who don't have the ball nor are around it. Joe Cool Dec 2022 #25
American football is the ideal sport for bathroom breaks Tomconroy Dec 2022 #28
Soccer is also the ideal sport for any break. Joe Cool Dec 2022 #30
There are normally more SCORES in football. Joe Cool Dec 2022 #27
3-3 is a high-scoring soccer game. Joe Cool Dec 2022 #29
We got it. You don't like soccer, you don't have to keep repeating the same thing. Bev54 Dec 2022 #58
All of those games combined angrychair Dec 2022 #51
American football.... Happy Hoosier Dec 2022 #65
It was exciting but I do wish the winner was not determined by penalty kicks. honest.abe Dec 2022 #15
Soccer has so many issues Joe Cool Dec 2022 #18
I agree. Exciting second half but the ending was an anti-climatic Walleye Dec 2022 #47
Never watched until I moved to France. Now I watch it, along with rugby. GoneOffShore Dec 2022 #19
Soccer is cross country with a ball. Joe Cool Dec 2022 #22
You may need this GoneOffShore Dec 2022 #26
17 games from the World Cup had 1 goal or no scoring. Joe Cool Dec 2022 #31
No, it's like watching paint dry while drinking mass quantities of beer. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2022 #37
Don't insult watching paint dry. Joe Cool Dec 2022 #38
Not me. I'd much rather watch soccer mcar Dec 2022 #39
You like 0-0 or 1-0 scores? Joe Cool Dec 2022 #40
They need to up their Flopping acting game Submariner Dec 2022 #49
Paint drying never ends in a tie lame54 Dec 2022 #54
I disagree Earl_from_PA Dec 2022 #55
Well played lame54 Dec 2022 #56
Nah...... whistler162 Dec 2022 #59
The only thing I dislike about futball is the faking of injuries. SYFROYH Dec 2022 #60
+1 honest.abe Dec 2022 #74
Thank god no more World Cup for 4 years. n/t MicaelS Dec 2022 #66
I watch football and soccer. Dysfunctional Dec 2022 #69
Right on. Music Man Dec 2022 #70
Especially by people who do not even know the rules and use false claims to bash football. Celerity Dec 2022 #78

Joe Cool

(1,091 posts)
4. Nope
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:06 PM
Dec 2022

Soccer is pretty much cross country with a ball. The vast majority of the time it is like watching paint dry.

angrychair

(12,282 posts)
13. It's a game of strategy and skill
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:14 PM
Dec 2022

From players that don't get time outs or flip to different teams to take the field.

Most soccer games are over in roughly 90 mins but a 3 hour baseball game is the pinnacle of boredom or watching American football take 45 mins to play a final 2 minutes on the clock. Ugh.

Joe Cool

(1,091 posts)
32. Every other game has strategy and skill.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:33 PM
Dec 2022

Football has way more strategy than soccer. Not even close.

mcar

(46,056 posts)
40. The concept that a high score is the only thing that makes a sport good
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:47 PM
Dec 2022

is just wrong. Some football scores are low, for example, but it doesn't make the game boring.

Soccer is much more interesting.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
43. Oh my gosh. Of course the score is the only thing that matters. Nothing else does!
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:56 PM
Dec 2022

It’s how you win! Lol.

Joe Cool

(1,091 posts)
9. If six scores (aside from the shootout)
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:10 PM
Dec 2022

is considered exciting then soccer is LOL compared to other sports.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
53. it's hard to score goals when the teams are fairly evenly matched, or if a lesser team, they go low
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 04:28 PM
Dec 2022

block.

A basketball game can have a shedload of scoring and be far from riveting.

Most Americans did not grow up with football (soccer) as the main sport (I did, I grew up in London), thus the lack of knowledge and appreciation versus most of the rest of the world.

Also, there is a lot of hate for mens football, because the US is not very good at it, so people cannot do the typical

Joe Cool

(1,091 posts)
11. There are SO many problems with soccer that could be
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:13 PM
Dec 2022

solved with some simple rule changes to make it a better and more exciting but let’s keep rules from 1863.

One ref for 22 players? That is just plain stupid.
No clock synced with the scoreboard? That is just plain stupid.
Yellow cards that don’t actually mean anything but a change in possession? Again, stupid.
I could go on but I would rather watch paint dry

Hav

(5,969 posts)
21. Nice try
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:19 PM
Dec 2022

There were 9 refs + 2 substitute refs involved in this game.
Yellow cards mean something and can lead to suspensions and ejections.

But keep watching paint dry, just be careful as sniffing in too much doesn't seem to be healthy.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
57. And getting a SECOND YELLOW card later in the game means...
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 05:10 PM
Dec 2022

...you're ejected and your team plays a man down for the rest of the game.

Joe Cool

(1,091 posts)
35. Soccer is such a poorly officiated sport.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:36 PM
Dec 2022

Because there is ONE ref on the field. ONE. That is just plain stupid.

Joe Cool

(1,091 posts)
36. One ref on the field for 22 soccer players.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:40 PM
Dec 2022

Seven refs ON the field for the same number of players for football.

Now, tell me how you think only having ONE ref on the field is a good idea.

ruet

(10,278 posts)
68. Hold Up Now!
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 08:06 PM
Dec 2022

This thread was a specific challenge to DUers to shit on soccer. WTF were you expecting?

 

Goodheart

(5,760 posts)
72. Soccer would automatically be astronomically better if they removed two players from each side
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 08:51 PM
Dec 2022

More passing lanes, more fast breaks, more open shots, more saves, more athleticism.... less dependent on luck.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
76. No. Go invent a new game if you do not like football's rules.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 09:14 PM
Dec 2022

As for luck, you make your own, ofttimes.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
75. You don't even understand some of the basic rules, and now you are trying to rewrite a game played
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 09:12 PM
Dec 2022

and watched by billions?

There are multiple officials for example, including 2 linesman/women, the head ref, and the 4th official on the sideline between the two teams, plus there is a 3 or 4 person VAR team at a remote location.

The stadium clock is synced to the start of the game, but the head ref usually adds on extra time each half, and that is shown by the 4th official who holds up a board, same one they use for subs.

Yellow cards (called a booking) mean a lot more than what you think. And you can get them for multiple reasons, and often do NOT give possession the other way. They are usually for a bad foul when a defensive player tries to stop the team with the ball, but there are many other reasons they can be given.

2 yellows in one game equals a red card (you can get a straight red too, for a more serious offence) and you are tossed, plus no replacement and often a suspension for the next game or more.

Also, cumulative yellows over multiple matches can get you suspended.

Seeing people (often domestically domiciled Americans) complain about football is what is actually like watching paint dry, especially when they do not even know the basics of the game, which you do not.

BannonsLiver

(20,595 posts)
16. That's what people who love baseball say about baseball.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:16 PM
Dec 2022

I’ll go out on a limb and guess you’re not much of a baseball fan.

ProfessorGAC

(76,700 posts)
46. This Thread Cements It For Me
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:57 PM
Dec 2022

It's not soccer I dislike. It's soccer fans.
The game is uncomplicated. Being told that we "just don't understand" are condescending & insulting.
They named US pro teams with an insistence on Euro sounding names. Three teams are named "United" when no union needed to take place. Real Salt Lake. ROYAL Salt Lake? Really?
Yeah, it's not the game. It's the "aficionados"

 

Goodheart

(5,760 posts)
73. Don't you love when soccer fans tell you "you just don't understand it"?
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 08:54 PM
Dec 2022

As though it's not the most mind-numbing tactics-deprived sport on the planet?

There is NOTHING complicated about soccer. There is NOTHING we soccer non-fans don't understand.

ProfessorGAC

(76,700 posts)
79. Oh, There's One Thing
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 09:51 PM
Dec 2022

I don't understand why players don't blast shots on goal every time they're remotely open. The perfect shot seldom comes along. The goal is 192 square feet. That's a lot of surface for a goalie to cover if shots are being peppered from everywhere.
TAKE THE SHOT!!!

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
62. It isn't interesting enough to take the time to understand it
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 06:59 PM
Dec 2022

It's akin to taking the time to read all threads here about Musk.

 

Goodheart

(5,760 posts)
71. Wrong
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 08:49 PM
Dec 2022

This match CONFIRMS that soccer sucks.

One half of the regulation play goals were penalty kicks, and then the game gets decided by penalty kicks. So, half of the scoring weren't the result of tactical play and athleticism, just from errors made by defenders... an accidental trip here, an unfortunate bump there.... Soccer lacks scoring from tactics, very much unlike American football where it's fundamental to the game.

And just why was this match extraordinarily exciting for soccer fans? Because there were an extraordinary number of points scored... proving that the 1-0 and 0-0 games very much more typical games are snoozefests.

Not sold, and never will be until there are some substantial changes made.... I can suggest one right off the bat that would make the game a whole lot more exciting: reduce the number of players by two from each team. Suddenly, there will be more passing lanes open, more shots on goal, more saves, and more demand that athletes have to actually rely on athleticism and decision making rather than kicking the ball around aimlessly until the defense makes some sort of error.

mahatmakanejeeves

(69,850 posts)
2. I was putting up "holiday" lights, but I did catch the last half of the game.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:02 PM
Dec 2022

It was a nail biter at the end.

Soccer is on the TV around DC all the time, but I don't catch it that often.

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #2)

Joe Cool

(1,091 posts)
7. The vast majority of the time
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:07 PM
Dec 2022

Soccer is like watching paint dry. 3-3 before a shootout is exciting? LOL

Joe Cool

(1,091 posts)
24. Soccer needs about 50 rule changes.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:22 PM
Dec 2022

What other sport has pretty much not changed since 1863. Pretty much every other sport tweaks the rules every year in an attempt to make the game better. Not soccer.

joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
42. The thing that causes slow pace...
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:47 PM
Dec 2022

...is the strategy to just hold on to the ball for an hour after making a score.

ProfessorGAC

(76,700 posts)
48. One That Really Bugs Me Is...
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 04:01 PM
Dec 2022

...the offside rule. It basically punishes the quickest, fastest players. I'm told it's to prevent poaching. But, I've never heard how poaching would harm the game or why defenses couldn't be devised to defend it.
Besides, offsides could be enforced with a line on the ground. Not by whether a slow to react defender couldn't get to where they should have been

Joe Cool

(1,091 posts)
50. The soccer offsides rule is completely stupid.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 04:10 PM
Dec 2022

Offsides in football and hockey have clear and objective measures.

No reason soccer couldn’t have an objective measure like a line across the field at the top of the goalie box.

Joe Cool

(1,091 posts)
17. But still less exciting
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:16 PM
Dec 2022

than almost any other sport. Two NFL games and two college bowl games yesterday were more exciting.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
23. You score more points in American football and that makes it
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:20 PM
Dec 2022

exciting but I'm quite sure if you count up the time, for the most part people are standing around doing nothing.

Joe Cool

(1,091 posts)
25. Watch soccer players who don't have the ball nor are around it.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:23 PM
Dec 2022

What does the goalie do over 90% of the time?

Joe Cool

(1,091 posts)
30. Soccer is also the ideal sport for any break.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:27 PM
Dec 2022

Yeah, 1-0 is really exciting. Soccer is the sport in which a lot happens but nothing actually happens.

Joe Cool

(1,091 posts)
27. There are normally more SCORES in football.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:24 PM
Dec 2022

Every NFL going on right now has at least three scores.
You want to compare soccer to basketball? LOL

angrychair

(12,282 posts)
51. All of those games combined
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 04:10 PM
Dec 2022

Didn't have the viewership of the France-Argentina game.
Likely the most watched event of any kind in years if not ever.
I would suspect more than 3 billion people were watching that game today.

Happy Hoosier

(9,535 posts)
65. American football....
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 07:42 PM
Dec 2022

Has a whole lotta standing around punctuated by short bits of action. Not to mention lots and lots of future brain damage. Nit sure how people can be “fans” of watching those men destroy their brains.

But then again, I find virtually all pro sports to be a snore fest.

 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
15. It was exciting but I do wish the winner was not determined by penalty kicks.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:16 PM
Dec 2022

Such a weird contrast after 1.5 hours of intense team play. There could much better ways to end a tied game like perhaps suspend the offside rules or remove a player from each team every 15 minutes until someone scores. I think that would be tremendously exciting and showcase individual player skills while still maintaining team play.

GoneOffShore

(18,020 posts)
19. Never watched until I moved to France. Now I watch it, along with rugby.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:18 PM
Dec 2022

American 'football', that's like watching grass grow.

Joe Cool

(1,091 posts)
22. Soccer is cross country with a ball.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:20 PM
Dec 2022

A lot of running around but nothing actually happens.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,681 posts)
37. No, it's like watching paint dry while drinking mass quantities of beer.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:42 PM
Dec 2022

I admire the theatrics of the flop, the near-operatic death scene after getting bumped. They eclipse the wimpy flops of basketball.

In four years, we get to do this again, but there will be beer. American beer, Canadian beer, Mexican beer. It will be epic.

Submariner

(13,365 posts)
49. They need to up their Flopping acting game
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 04:08 PM
Dec 2022

they all go to the ground looking up with wide open mouth, simulating blood curdling scream for the cameras. Then they grab an appendage and hold it, while now looking at the ground covering their face with their hands, so we can no longer see their faces mocking us for believing him. Then they get up, shake off the extreme pain, and play with no limp.

Not good Oscar acting jobs.

 

Dysfunctional

(452 posts)
69. I watch football and soccer.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 08:15 PM
Dec 2022

The difference is I watch football after I record it. It takes about 15-20 minutes to watch the entire game. That means that in a fairly even game, no player plays more than 8-10 minutes. I consider watching 15-20 minutes of football for 3 hours boring.

Music Man

(1,664 posts)
70. Right on.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 08:28 PM
Dec 2022

I grew up playing and later reffing soccer. I LOVE the sport.

I have grown up listening to soccer bashing all my life. It was old 30 years ago, and it's just lame now.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
78. Especially by people who do not even know the rules and use false claims to bash football.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 09:30 PM
Dec 2022

So glad football normally doesn't get posted in GD. I would have been banned long ago, lololol. I am being good though. Some of these replies would get roasted on a normal football forum, especially my UK ones (I grew up in West London, less than a mile from Stamford Bridge, played girls football for years, and am a huge Chels supporter since I could walk and talk. 💙 Been to so many matches, I miss it terribly now that I live in Stockholm. We also follow AIK (despite living in a Hammarby neighbourhood, lol) here, but it's not at all the same.

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