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In It to Win It

(8,285 posts)
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 01:53 AM Dec 2022

Judge strikes down California gun law modeled on Texas abortion measure

Politico via Yahoo News


A federal judge has blocked a California gun law that emulated a controversial Texas abortion measure — and which was intended to provoke a court fight.

The injunction from Judge Roger Benitez sets California’s law, which enables private citizens to sue manufacturers of illegal guns, on a potential path to the U.S. Supreme Court. That could set up a test of both laws — an outcome that California Gov. Gavin Newsom has sought.

“I want to thank Judge Benitez. We have been saying all along that Texas’ anti-abortion law is outrageous. Judge Benitez just confirmed it is also unconstitutional," Newsom said in a statement Monday. "The provision in California’s law that he struck down is a replica of what Texas did, and his explanation of why this part of SB 1327 unfairly blocks access to the courts applies equally to Texas’ SB 8."

Benitez also underscored the ties between the two laws in his ruling, citing Newsom’s condemnations of the Texas measure that deputizes citizens to sue abortion providers as evidence that the California gun law is unconstitutional.

"'It is cynical.' 'It is an abomination.' 'It is outrageous and objectionable.' 'There is no dispute that it raises serious constitutional questions,'" Benitez wrote at the start of his ruling, quoting Newsom on the Texas law as evidence that "by implication," the same is true of California's law.
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Judge strikes down California gun law modeled on Texas abortion measure (Original Post) In It to Win It Dec 2022 OP
Sounds like good news, but it wasn't the smartest of Newsom to 'thank' the Judge. Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #1
Parties and/or their attorneys routinely thank judges after a ruling or after a hearing. SunSeeker Dec 2022 #4
Okay, that's good to understand, thanks! (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #10
It's kind of tongue in cheek Zeitghost Dec 2022 #8
Okay, that's good to understand, thanks! (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #9
Wasn't the Texas law a way to work around Roe vs Wade ? MichMan Dec 2022 #2
Better that than bounties... BWdem4life Dec 2022 #3
Yes, but SCOTUS let Texas have the vigilante mechanism, which is a terrible precedent. SunSeeker Dec 2022 #5
they did it. thank you republianmushroom Dec 2022 #6
Attorney General Rob Bonta refused to defend the law ripcord Dec 2022 #7
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. Sounds like good news, but it wasn't the smartest of Newsom to 'thank' the Judge.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 02:52 AM
Dec 2022

Especially when you add this to it "Benitez also underscored the ties between the two laws in his ruling, citing Newsom’s condemnations of the Texas measure"

It's really not that good of a look. Benitez isn't like a CA State Senator, he's supposed to be impartial/non-political. The two come off looking like a team here.

I like the guy, but he sometimes does some things I feel are really not well thought-through.

SunSeeker

(51,715 posts)
4. Parties and/or their attorneys routinely thank judges after a ruling or after a hearing.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 04:16 AM
Dec 2022

Particularly a well-reasoned ruling, as this one was.

It doesn't imply the judge was corrupt or worked "as a team" with the litigant.

What is wrong with showcasing how unconstitutional the Texas vigilante law is?

Plus this helps establish a conflict of rulings on such laws in the circuit courts, one of the key grounds the Supreme Court uses to take up a case. Maybe this will lead SCOTUS to reconsider their opinion allowing the Texas vigilante law, which “effectively invites other States to refine S. B. 8?s model for nullifying federal rights,” Sotomayor warned in her dissent. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/12/10/supreme-court-rules-on-texas-6-week-abortion-ban/

Newsom is proving Sotomayor's point. Newsom's litigation seems quite "well thought through."

Zeitghost

(3,869 posts)
8. It's kind of tongue in cheek
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 02:46 PM
Dec 2022

Benitez is a well know pro-gun judge that regularly strikes down CA gun control measures. He and Newsom are hardly a team.

MichMan

(11,974 posts)
2. Wasn't the Texas law a way to work around Roe vs Wade ?
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 02:53 AM
Dec 2022

Now that the SC has ruled that states can enact abortion restrictions, it would seem that Texas could just do that directly now.

SunSeeker

(51,715 posts)
5. Yes, but SCOTUS let Texas have the vigilante mechanism, which is a terrible precedent.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 04:22 AM
Dec 2022

Because SCOTUS allowed the outsourcing enforcement scheme to persist, it “effectively invites other States to refine S. B. 8?s model for nullifying federal rights,” Sotomayor warned in her dissent. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/12/10/supreme-court-rules-on-texas-6-week-abortion-ban/

Newsom is trying to show SCOTUS how true Sotomayor's warning was, and hopefully cause them to reconsider their ruling.

ripcord

(5,537 posts)
7. Attorney General Rob Bonta refused to defend the law
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 02:24 PM
Dec 2022

He said he has spoken quite a bit about the Texas law being unconstitutional and he wasn't going to defend a similar law he also thought was unconstitutional.

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