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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 09:10 AM Dec 2022

"I don't know that it's criminal to take bad advice from your attorneys."

Last edited Tue Dec 20, 2022, 09:54 AM - Edit history (1)

That's why Mother's Boy doesn't believe Trump should be prosecuted for anything.

I'll let that sink in for a few seconds.


This is the "man" that came within 40 feet of a Trump-incited traitorous mob intent on assassinating him. THAT ALONE is enough to make his mewling Casper Milquetoast demeanor when asked about Trump utterly disgusting. But, "Bobblehead Mikey" went above and beyond that.

Donald Trump doesn't "take" advice from attorneys. He DICTATES what he wants them to advise him to do and, so far, there have always been
whores with law licenses who were willing to play along.

The "advice" Trump "took" from his "lawyers" was, as always, simply what he wanted to do---period.

And, Mother's Boy knows that, which is why he easily qualifies as a lying sonofabitch.

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"I don't know that it's criminal to take bad advice from your attorneys." (Original Post) Atticus Dec 2022 OP
What a colossal wimp. Walleye Dec 2022 #1
No it self-righteous asshole syndrome. bullimiami Dec 2022 #3
Yes, something like that. ananda Dec 2022 #11
Enough with the nicknames. Who is mothers boy and who is bobblehead mike. patricia92243 Dec 2022 #2
Pence. Sorry. nt Atticus Dec 2022 #4
pence, whom I refer to as white satan. niyad Dec 2022 #20
Mike Pence: dried Elmer's glue in the shape of a man. Taylor Picker Dec 2022 #35
Thank You for asking. I was confused too. But keep the embarrassing names coming, please. Tommymac Dec 2022 #40
He's trying to butter both sides of his toast. He can't defend Florida Man. And he can't condemn him marble falls Dec 2022 #5
Pence doesn't want family to get The Treatment. Kid Berwyn Dec 2022 #6
A... 2naSalit Dec 2022 #7
How many people are sitting on death row Mz Pip Dec 2022 #8
Is Pence is a prisoner of the DOJ? Star witness in all trials. This is theatre for the defendants. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #13
When they're co-conspirators, it ceases to be advice Mike. bluesbassman Dec 2022 #9
Yea. Appears Pence is also getting some bad legal advice...some journo should ask that!? Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #22
The more that sinks into my brain, the more confounded I become. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2022 #10
I believe Pence has already penned an agreement with the DOJ to testify in all trials. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #14
How else to explain? Death threats. gab13by13 Dec 2022 #28
Fucking TV and radio have brainwashed far too many, for money. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #34
What a Beta this guy is genxlib Dec 2022 #12
Gamma, Delta, or Epislon Maybe ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #30
What's the Latin for "cuckold"? I believe the "C's" have it. MiHale Dec 2022 #36
It's funny because Mikey still believes he is going to be president some day Ray Bruns Dec 2022 #38
Mike is looking for a little niche where he can park his ass. magicarpet Dec 2022 #15
I just don't get it Pototan Dec 2022 #16
Welcome to DU! There is no red line for Rs in pursuit of power and control of the federal budget. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #24
I understand the quest for political power Pototan Dec 2022 #51
No Twitter, no FB, no Fox, no tTrump. That's what changed from previous 200 years to permit this Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #52
I would consider that tattoo. "I just don't get it". JohnnyRingo Dec 2022 #32
Welcome to DU! Tommymac Dec 2022 #42
Elise Stefanik was pregnant on 1/6 mgardener Dec 2022 #17
When ever someone defends tfg's actions, the word Kompromat comes to mind Siwsan Dec 2022 #18
Exactly. niyad Dec 2022 #21
If that's the case, he should have just multigraincracker Dec 2022 #19
Yup. nt Tommymac Dec 2022 #45
Pence is lying. He knows Trump looks for attorneys who will help him commit crimes. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #23
MAGA fig leaf. MAGA monsters are all dressed in a variety of propaganda fig leaves. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #25
They don't need no stinking purpose to lie. Tommymac Dec 2022 #46
True, lying is second nature to them. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #50
He clearly does not know where the buck stops randr Dec 2022 #26
Pence's bad judgment... WestMichRad Dec 2022 #27
I believe it's true Trump shopped for attorneys... JohnnyRingo Dec 2022 #29
Spineless pos. Prob made the fly on his head vomit. SheltieLover Dec 2022 #31
As Keith Olberman says, he's the poster boy for Stockholm Syndrome. GoCubsGo Dec 2022 #33
Yes, it IS criminal to take bad advice from lawyers if said lawyers are advising you to do criminal LaMouffette Dec 2022 #37
Excuses, excuses, excuses peggysue2 Dec 2022 #39
The sane lawyers Mad_Machine76 Dec 2022 #41
Pence loves to eat trump's shit. Turbineguy Dec 2022 #43
Hard to believe he has a law degree Diraven Dec 2022 #44
The soul of Pence, then his hair turned white. Marcuse Dec 2022 #47
How touching. Tommymac Dec 2022 #48
So to that Republican, attorneys told hair furhair to do nothing for 187 minutes? Justice matters. Dec 2022 #49

Walleye

(44,759 posts)
1. What a colossal wimp.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 09:13 AM
Dec 2022

I don’t think it’s blackmail I think it’s Stockholm syndrome

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
40. Thank You for asking. I was confused too. But keep the embarrassing names coming, please.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 11:56 AM
Dec 2022

Nicknames are cool and fun and do the work of embarrassing these snowflake asshats, but it does get confusing as each Qanon criminally oriented rethug stupidhero has sooooooo many funny and wickedly creative nicknames.



marble falls

(71,893 posts)
5. He's trying to butter both sides of his toast. He can't defend Florida Man. And he can't condemn him
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 09:18 AM
Dec 2022

Kid Berwyn

(24,329 posts)
6. Pence doesn't want family to get The Treatment.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 09:22 AM
Dec 2022

MAGA Hate is NAZI fierce hate.

No one’s family deserves to be on the receiving end.

Mz Pip

(28,449 posts)
8. How many people are sitting on death row
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 09:35 AM
Dec 2022

Because of bad legal advice?

Enough of the excuses as to why Trump should not be prosecuted. I don’t care if he has a sucky Christmas or if his lawyers are idiots.

FWIW Trump had plenty of good legal advice he just refused to listen to.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
13. Is Pence is a prisoner of the DOJ? Star witness in all trials. This is theatre for the defendants.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 10:05 AM
Dec 2022

Ofc the lawyer bad advise comments on legal insurrection memos, combined with fake electoral certificates, is complete nonsense, but it has been swallowed by MAGATS. He plays along.

Pence is straddling the fence until the reveal.

bluesbassman

(20,384 posts)
9. When they're co-conspirators, it ceases to be advice Mike.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 09:42 AM
Dec 2022

That not too insignificant fact should give you some pause as you slither around the country on your rehabilitation tour.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
22. Yea. Appears Pence is also getting some bad legal advice...some journo should ask that!?
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 10:52 AM
Dec 2022

Political journos rendering opinions for the masses should have law degrees.

Ferrets are Cool

(22,952 posts)
10. The more that sinks into my brain, the more confounded I become.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 09:43 AM
Dec 2022

Just think, the man making this statement was THE VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
14. I believe Pence has already penned an agreement with the DOJ to testify in all trials.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 10:06 AM
Dec 2022

How else to explain his fake ignorance? All has to do is talk to any lawyer…the claim is beyond laughable.

gab13by13

(32,277 posts)
28. How else to explain? Death threats.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 10:59 AM
Dec 2022

I never watch cable news except for Nicolle Wallace but I did watch msnbc for a little bit after the J6 presentation and I heard Andrea Mitchell say that Mark Meadows probably didn't relay messages to Trump about how dangerous J6 could be. I immediately turned off the TV.

genxlib

(6,132 posts)
12. What a Beta this guy is
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 10:04 AM
Dec 2022

Which is why he should give up on any future in the GOP. They all think of themselves as the ultimate Alphas.

I agree with you that he isn't just taking lawyers advice, he is dictating it.

But I think it goes farther than that. He is shopping for lawyers that tell him what he wants to hear. He bypassed the thousands of lawyers in DC to land on little known John Eastman teaching law at Chapman University. It wasn't because he was a good lawyer. It was because he was championing exactly the position that Trump wanted. The rest is history.

magicarpet

(18,495 posts)
15. Mike is looking for a little niche where he can park his ass.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 10:14 AM
Dec 2022

But refraining from blaming The Orange Fuhrer for January 6. If he can cast the blame on someone else - like say tRump's lawyers. Then Pence does not run the risk of pointing the finger of blame at tRump - which would likely piss off the Fuhrer/Messiah's base. If Pence has presidential aspirations he needs the Rethug Fascist base to get elected.

This way Pence thinks this boosts his own chance of being a viable presidential candidate come 2024.

Once a blindly loyal weasel, twice a blindly loyal weasel, always a blindly loyal weasel. Pence is not presidential timber,.. but he would make a nice muskrat and/or weasel.

Pototan

(3,120 posts)
16. I just don't get it
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 10:17 AM
Dec 2022

Where I come from, there are certain things you just don't forgive.

Mitch McConnell showing no support for Trump's insult to his wife.

Ted Cruz supporting Trump after Trump insults to his wife and accusations against his father.

Prescott Bush (yes, the son of Jeb) kissing Trump's ass after he insulted Prescott's Father and Mother.

Rand Paul, Rubio, Graham. I don't get it. I thought politicians were thin skinned, but this is not normal behavior.

And I guess the real big one is having a guy you bent over backwards to support for 5 years, instigating and encouraging your death by hanging and putting your entire family at risk. I figure that's a red line.

But as my reply title indicates, I just don't get it.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
24. Welcome to DU! There is no red line for Rs in pursuit of power and control of the federal budget.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 10:53 AM
Dec 2022

Pototan

(3,120 posts)
51. I understand the quest for political power
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 01:36 PM
Dec 2022

After all, that's what drives politicians, for good or ill reasons.

You can't affect change without holding office.

But I've been involved in dozens of campaigns, at all levels. And when the election is over, the candidates often "mend their fences" after a bitter campaign. But family members never forgive. Spouses, parents and children will often hold grudges for years.

But publicly denigrated a candidate's spouse or parents or children is, more often than not, unforgivable. Support for Donald Trump is not the norm. It's an aberration.

He's a buffoon con man who never built real political capital and yet the Republican Party treats him in a way that I've seen no other politician treated before.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
52. No Twitter, no FB, no Fox, no tTrump. That's what changed from previous 200 years to permit this
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 01:44 PM
Dec 2022

in America.

The gentleman’s rules, unwritten, for transfer of power in example, were made vulnerable by evil people seizing the day and pussies and social media, old media, most any pussy media…with consent..both benefited mightily!

The old media is still being pussies about the obvious rampant fascism and anti-intellectualism. It’s madness.

JohnnyRingo

(20,863 posts)
32. I would consider that tattoo. "I just don't get it".
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 11:06 AM
Dec 2022

Seems like I say that every day as I wait for someone to explain to me the attraction.

Well written. Welcome to DU.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
42. Welcome to DU!
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 12:07 PM
Dec 2022


It's all about the desire for power. This criminally oriented RethuQlican political party encourages such scummy people to join it. All they care about is their own personal gain of power, prestige and $$$$$$$$$.

They will do ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING to gain this power for themselves, and the hell with the rest of humanity.

And I mean ANYTHING: illegal, immoral, unethical, against the 10 Commandments, the advice of The Buddha or Zoroaster, in violation of the Torah or Koran or Robert's Rules of Order, or despite the public disapproval of The Pope, Kimmel or Colbert or George Takei.

Siwsan

(27,833 posts)
18. When ever someone defends tfg's actions, the word Kompromat comes to mind
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 10:22 AM
Dec 2022

And I suspect any 'inside info' tfg has on his former lap dog could be pretty interesting.

Irish_Dem

(81,180 posts)
23. Pence is lying. He knows Trump looks for attorneys who will help him commit crimes.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 10:52 AM
Dec 2022

What is the purpose for Pence lying?

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
25. MAGA fig leaf. MAGA monsters are all dressed in a variety of propaganda fig leaves.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 10:55 AM
Dec 2022

Pence awaits the criminal court subpoenas to attend the trials of his ex-Boss and Minion’s multiple trials.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
46. They don't need no stinking purpose to lie.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 12:11 PM
Dec 2022

In fact I don't believe that most of those people are even smart enough to know what the word 'purpose' means.



randr

(12,645 posts)
26. He clearly does not know where the buck stops
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 10:59 AM
Dec 2022

Typical Republican denial of any responsibility

WestMichRad

(3,237 posts)
27. Pence's bad judgment...
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 10:59 AM
Dec 2022

… on something straightforward as this disqualifies his from being considered presidential material, in the opinion of many of us. What a stooge!!

JohnnyRingo

(20,863 posts)
29. I believe it's true Trump shopped for attorneys...
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 11:01 AM
Dec 2022

...that would do his bidding. He proved that when he was going through Attorneys General until he found a bad (worse) one.
He didn't have bad luck with bad lawyers, he retained them because it was in their job profile.

GoCubsGo

(34,891 posts)
33. As Keith Olberman says, he's the poster boy for Stockholm Syndrome.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 11:06 AM
Dec 2022

That's probably the best explanation this shit. Although, I think he's just cowardly lying sonofabitch, too.

LaMouffette

(2,640 posts)
37. Yes, it IS criminal to take bad advice from lawyers if said lawyers are advising you to do criminal
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 11:28 AM
Dec 2022

acts. Right???

peggysue2

(12,529 posts)
39. Excuses, excuses, excuses
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 11:55 AM
Dec 2022

That's all these grown men and women have while stepping away from accountability:

It was someone else's fault. It was bad legal advice. Hillary or Hunter Biden made me do it, yada, yada.

Or, even better? It never happened.

One of the comments that has stayed with me came from Mark Meadows. The J6 Committee and the press were hot and heavy discussing Meadows' neck-deep involvement in Trump's paranoid Stop the Steal operation and plan. And Meadows' reaction?

It's so unfair.

A grown man, Chief of Staff to the President of the United States, involved in a unlawful, violent attack on the the US Government and he acts and sounds like a petulant child, a middle-school student caught cheating on a test or stealing lunch money.

It's incredible how twisted the logic, how perverted the reasoning.

And then Pence has the gall to talk about the 'taint of partisanship/bias' on MSNBC. And he says it on Fox News without a trace of irony.

None of these Republicans should ever, ever be permitted to serve in any governmental position again. And many deserve prison time!

Pence knew what was going on, yet did nothing to prevent or warn. After hemming and hawing, he did the right thing, fulfilled his legal obligation to the country by certifying a legitimate election.

How heroic!


Mad_Machine76

(24,951 posts)
41. The sane lawyers
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 11:59 AM
Dec 2022

seemed to be giving him the correct advice but he wasn't dissuaded and kept seeking out other people and attorneys who told him what he wanted to hear. Trump isn't the victim here!

Diraven

(1,896 posts)
44. Hard to believe he has a law degree
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 12:08 PM
Dec 2022

Pretty sure that's not how the law works. Lawyers give advice. You are responsible for how you use that advice.

Justice matters.

(9,769 posts)
49. So to that Republican, attorneys told hair furhair to do nothing for 187 minutes?
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 12:52 PM
Dec 2022

While he was trying to save his throat from getting dragged to the gallows?

That makes zero sense.

He LIES like a Repuke.

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