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malaise

(296,115 posts)
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 06:07 AM Dec 2022

So it looks like the Slobfather's spawn received gifts disguised as loans

Seriously they are all career criminals. As the details unfold we will see tax fraud on steroids.
The IRS did not audit Slobby’s taxes until when again? We will also see enablers.
Remember now Slobby ordered the IRS to go after his enemies. The lying liar lied again.
It all stinks. Corruption is everywhere.

There is a reason the billionaires love ReTHUGs - destroying government means destroying the IRS.

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So it looks like the Slobfather's spawn received gifts disguised as loans (Original Post) malaise Dec 2022 OP
I'm shocked..... multigraincracker Dec 2022 #1
"Your winnings, sir." 3Hotdogs Dec 2022 #7
SC Smith is, no doubt, hot on his trail! SheltieLover Dec 2022 #2
Don't Talk To Me About The Dangers Of Big Government modrepub Dec 2022 #3
Big Business Roy Rolling Dec 2022 #5
Political and corporate welfare reign supreme with that bunch nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #4
Indict this m*f*ucker Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #6
details please BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 #8
His NFT trading cards are the same IronLionZion Dec 2022 #9
We have people here at DU gab13by13 Dec 2022 #10
They don't even know how to NJCher Dec 2022 #11
Without more info, that makes no sense. Ms. Toad Dec 2022 #12
K&R for exposure Blue Owl Dec 2022 #13

modrepub

(4,109 posts)
3. Don't Talk To Me About The Dangers Of Big Government
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 07:28 AM
Dec 2022

unless you're going to address the dangers of Big Business/Ultra Rich People.

Roy Rolling

(7,632 posts)
5. Big Business
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 08:05 AM
Dec 2022

There was “big business” long before there was big government, big tech, or big anything else.

Somebody’s gotta finance insurrection and it ain’t big politicians—they are beggars now.

nightwing1240

(1,996 posts)
4. Political and corporate welfare reign supreme with that bunch
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 07:55 AM
Dec 2022

Not to mention cronyism, greed and self-serving. It has always been around but far worse now. We have children and families going to bed hungry while these buggers suckle the government teat. Disgusting and should be criminal.

Evil triumphs when good people do nothing

IronLionZion

(51,269 posts)
9. His NFT trading cards are the same
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 08:58 AM
Dec 2022

it's a way to receive money while hiding the source of where it came from. Sounds like money laundering or tax avoidance or something like that.

gab13by13

(32,323 posts)
10. We have people here at DU
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 09:06 AM
Dec 2022

taking the side of the IRS.

Remember this, Trump appointed Charles Rettig as IRS commissioner, the most extreme audits were done to Trump's "enemies" Comey and McCabe, remember? People raised holy hell about the audits so Rettig had the IRS IG look into the Comey/McCabe audits and the IG of course, found no wrong doing.

Rettig has retired, thank goodness, and Treasury Secretary Yellen has appointed Doug O'Donnell as acting IRS commissioner. I have no idea if O'Donnell is an honest man but Rettig wrote a letter praising him, which gives me pause.

I am going to look up who the IRS I.G. is.

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
11. They don't even know how to
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 09:24 AM
Dec 2022

Audit taxes of the wealthy. They just do the W2 people.

They really ought to put together high level teams of auditors. Could be quite lucrative.

If you recall, the Dems recently tried to do this. It went nowhere.

Ms. Toad

(38,640 posts)
12. Without more info, that makes no sense.
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 10:29 AM
Dec 2022

According to the Washington Post, the speculation is about $51,000 to his the eldest children (with no information about how it was split or the years of the gift.)

First - any gifts would be taxed at his death, if at all (not now).

Second, the gift exclusion (i.e. never taxable) was $13000 or $15,000, depending on the year. Both spouses can give a gift, and the gift can be given to each of their child and the child's spouse.

So assuming both elder trumps gave the maximum to each child and their child's spouse, that's $52,000-$60,000 per child which would never even have to be reported. $51,000, even if all given to a single child (and spouse) would have zero tax implications for either party - so why bother disguising it as a loan. If the $51,000 was split among the children it makes even less sense.

And, as noted earlier, all gift taxes are paid upon the death of the donor, so aside from reporting obligations, it has no tax implications until Trump dies (and no tax implications at all for his children, since the donor pays the taxes).

Loans, on the other hand may have tax implications for the lender - since taxes have to be paid on any interest received (or presumed to be received).

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