Would MAGA have sided with the AXIS or ALLIES during WW ll ?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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[unc70]

1. Rachel Maddow podcast: Ultra

[Happy Hoosier]

4. Was gonna say the same thing.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

2. I think the Vegas odds would be they would've sided with the Axis.

[GP6971]

34. I completely agree.

MAGA diehards are against everything the Constitution stands for.

[emulatorloo]

3. Hey DSB. Great poll.

[sarisataka]

5. I could see them

Taking the side of Germany but being opposed to Japan

[Tetrachloride]

6. An unanswered question is the amount of profit

[Kaleva]

7. Neither. They are isolationists.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

8. Well, so many never did college, and live in trailers parks and their mom's basements

And given how 'drafts' generally go down in the USA ... a lot them (or their offspring) would've been off fighting for the Allies whether they liked it or not. Hell a lot of them would've already been in the military.

A lot of them would've been rooting for the Nazi's prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor and the alliance between Germany and Japan that came soon after, but once those two things happened, I don't think MAGA's by and large would've been pro-Axis.

IMHO, this is by nature such an anachronistic question that's it's really unanswerable. It's kinda like, could the '72 Dolphins have beaten any Super Bowl winner of the past decade?

Too much has changed to answer that. Same with this question.

[dugog55]

9. Well Prescott Bush, W's grandfather was a Nazi sympathizer and

the family made money off their German connections for decades after the war. The whole story so far as known now is at this link.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

[keithbvadu2]

13. George H W Bush had to fight in the Pacific because he certainly could not fight his family friends

George H W Bush had to fight in the Pacific because he certainly could not fight his family friends in Germany.

Just a theory.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

17. That is really an outrageous smear and not appreciated by this son of a Naval/Marine

combat fighter-pilot who nearly died fighting fascists in the Pacific (and who lost so many squadron mates in the Pacific, and friends in both theatres).

Men (and women) fought where their respective services sent them. All risked their lives. All fought fascism.

[keithbvadu2]

19. Not everyone's family supported the Nazis even as we were at war with them.

GWHB fought the good fight in the Pacific.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

20. Well, we had a beloved president from our party who fought (and nearly died) in the Pacific

who also had a powerful father who appeased Nazis.

It is rather disgusting to smear those who risked their lives to fight fascism due to the sins of their fathers or the theater of war they were sent to fight in.

Really not cool.

[keithbvadu2]

21. "appeased"

[Just A Box Of Rain]

23. Yes.

[LeftInTX]

24. Yes

Appeasement
Kennedy rejected the belief of Winston Churchill that any compromise with Nazi Germany was impossible. Instead, he supported Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain's policy of appeasement. Throughout 1938, while the Nazi persecution of the Jews in Germany intensified, Kennedy attempted to arrange a meeting with Adolf Hitler.[47] Shortly before the Nazi bombing of British cities began in September 1940, Kennedy once again sought a personal meeting with Hitler without the approval of the U. S. Department of State, in order to "bring about a better understanding between the United States and Germany".[48]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy_Sr.

Kennedy did not want the US to provide military support to Great Britain. When London was bombed, he took off with his family. The Brits were not too pleased with him. Roosevelt recalled him. Kennedy had a bit of Lindberg "influence".

[LeftInTX]

22. I forgot about Joe K

Yes, he really did not want action against the Nazis

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. But his progeny did more than separate themselves from his noxious views.

[LeftInTX]

26. Exactly.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

27. Not a good excuse for smearing the World War II service of GHW Bush.

Really untoward.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. I didn't do that. I don't think Bush Pere was a NAZI.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

31. My apologies. I think I misinterpreted your post.

Mea culpa.

[Takket]

10. I think the literal Nazis would ally themselves with the other literal Nazis

[Turbineguy]

11. No brainer:

Nazis.

[Tom Rinaldo]

12. They would have split about 60/40 for the allies

...Probably 3/4's of them had strong sympathy for Axis ideology (less than that would have backed the holocaust had they known of it at the time), but a good number are hard wired knee jerk "patriots" who would have sided with the Allies after America was attacked at Pearl Harbor.

[jcgoldie]

14. Pretty sure they are the direct ideological descendents of...

… those who did in fact support the Nazis… at least until Pearl Harbor.

[jonstl08]

15. Axis

With their extreme nationalism and white supremecy there is no doubt in my mind they would have been part of the Axis alliance.

[A HERETIC I AM]

16. This is the exact same segment of the population that wanted to stay under the British Crown...

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In the late 1700's. The exact same segment that was against entering WWI and as pointed out above, the exact same segment that Rachel Maddow is referencing in her "Ultra" podcast series, which I HEARTILY recommend listening to.

The same segment that was or still is:

Against giving women the right to vote.
Against desegregation.
Against the Civil Rights Act.
Against Unions and the right of workers to form one.
Against all of "The New Deal" programs.
Against every single program that provided for basic needs such as food, shelter, education, and healthcare to residents of the U.S.
Against Public Schools.
Against Publicly funded or guaranteed unemployment and disability insurance.
Against subsidies for housing, pensions, and health insurance programs.
Against Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and the Children's Health Insurance Program.
Against Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP or "Food Stamps" )
Against virtually every single social and economic program the benefited the masses from the very first one to today.

The American Progressive has been dragging these assholes, kicking and screaming, into the future for 250 years.


NONE OF THIS SHOULD BE A SURPRISE TO ANYONE.

[ColinC]

18. Staying under the British crown in retrospect might not have been the worst idea

I imagine our government would have turned out a bit more like Canada than our current system. Or perhaps we would BE Canada. 🤔

[Trenzalore]

29. I'm from a German American family

My grandmother turned in her German American neighbors who were holding Nazi meetings prior and right after the start of the war.

There were plenty of Hitler loving assholes in America in 1941.

[iemanja]

30. MAGA is the Axis

[Initech]

32. If MAGA had been around during the 40s, we'd currently be under Nazi rule.

[JHB]

33. Their equivalents at that time DID side with the Axis

I mean, anyone who's been around conservatives long enough gets to realize how big a chunk of them's main beef with the Nazis was that they were "the other team." And really, they would have preferred teaming up with them to end the Commie Reds.