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cachukis

(2,277 posts)
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 08:09 PM Dec 2022

Say what you will, but Ari has been a heavyweight lately.

He called out Weissman for rolling his eyes at a Jay Z
riff, but delivered some highbrow insight.

Great to listen to top notch analysis of the issues of the day.

Lucky to have these minds to address a time in history, as it happens. We are living the book.

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Say what you will, but Ari has been a heavyweight lately. (Original Post) cachukis Dec 2022 OP
Agreed. He was excellent on the J6 commitee recap on Monday night. Brilliant guy + great sense of emulatorloo Dec 2022 #1
He's written a forward to the Jan 6 Report, probably doing his best to make it a valuable read. dem4decades Dec 2022 #2
+1 Meadowoak Dec 2022 #6
Can't stand the guy. Him and his Jay Z riffs. Paladin Dec 2022 #3
Yes, find it hard to assimilate, but I taught seniors, often as the cachukis Dec 2022 #4
I wouldn't like my political commentary being full of country-western lyrics, either. Paladin Dec 2022 #5
I've been here for some time, lurking before I signed in. cachukis Dec 2022 #10
I think every group in the US thinks it has a God given right to belittle anyone else's dialect, plimsoll Dec 2022 #14
my British mum loved Ebonics Skittles Dec 2022 #19
One of the best learning experiences of my life. cachukis Dec 2022 #20
excellent post Skittles Dec 2022 #25
I agree that Ari has the chops FakeNoose Dec 2022 #7
I, too, like him clean-shaven, but he explained that on one show recently halfulglas Dec 2022 #9
Ari grows on you. halfulglas Dec 2022 #8
Totally agree. bottomofthehill Dec 2022 #11
"...stick to the more fact based less bullshit show." Paladin Dec 2022 #12
Just a thought here, but is it safe to say that the black cachukis Dec 2022 #13
He's been top notch a lot lately on trump and J6. He often leaves republican guests... brush Dec 2022 #15
+ 1,000😀 malaise Dec 2022 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author housecat Dec 2022 #16
A real pro makes it look easy. Watch Ari handle rightwing loudmouths that don't come up fpr air or housecat Dec 2022 #17
love me some Ari Melber... YoshidaYui Dec 2022 #18
THIS malaise Dec 2022 #21
I actually like Ari and appreciate his intellect... PCIntern Dec 2022 #23
I concur and think his wheelhouse will widen. Right now, I'd cachukis Dec 2022 #24
He's doing a brilliant job right now n/t malaise Dec 2022 #26
Yes. cachukis Dec 2022 #27
Think we'll get three full hours this evening malaise Dec 2022 #28
The time line is everything. Cause and effect. cachukis Dec 2022 #29
I want a Michael Moore documentary malaise Dec 2022 #30
Yes and a Spielberg epic. cachukis Dec 2022 #31
It was really good. Put the whole case for tfg's concerted attempts at a coup in a bucket. lindysalsagal Dec 2022 #32
Agree malaise Dec 2022 #33

emulatorloo

(44,211 posts)
1. Agreed. He was excellent on the J6 commitee recap on Monday night. Brilliant guy + great sense of
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 08:20 PM
Dec 2022

Humor.

cachukis

(2,277 posts)
4. Yes, find it hard to assimilate, but I taught seniors, often as the
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 08:56 PM
Dec 2022

only white person in my class for 15 years in downtown Tampa. I learned that Ebonics was not only a beautiful language, but very efficient.

I often read here about Ari's penchant for rap, but I see it as a chance to share his intellect with an audience that might not be drawn to high level discussion.

I read about the Karens chastising store patrons for speaking their native language.

As a non native speaker in foreign lands, I've learned that kindness is universal.

Spoken word has been around as long as the tongue could fashion sounds.

Sometimes those words strung together, make sense.

Paladin

(28,279 posts)
5. I wouldn't like my political commentary being full of country-western lyrics, either.
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 09:14 PM
Dec 2022

Once you've been here a little longer, you'll find that there's a real love/hate situation with regard to Ari. He brings it on himself; I think he probably enjoys it.

cachukis

(2,277 posts)
10. I've been here for some time, lurking before I signed in.
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 09:58 PM
Dec 2022

I acknowledged that love hate relationship. I read the same about others.

I would say that Ari has cut his chops sufficiently to be beyond worry about sidebar criticism.

My point is that Shakespeare doesn't get called out.

And I'm sure Waylon has a way with words that would earn a reference.

I wasn't a fan of sea urchin until my third bite.

plimsoll

(1,671 posts)
14. I think every group in the US thinks it has a God given right to belittle anyone else's dialect,
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 10:11 PM
Dec 2022

Let alone a different language. But I think the Karens only complain about non-white folks speaking their native language.

Skittles

(153,226 posts)
19. my British mum loved Ebonics
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 02:36 AM
Dec 2022

said it reminded her of Cockney in how distinct it is as a dialect.....

cachukis

(2,277 posts)
20. One of the best learning experiences of my life.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 09:24 AM
Dec 2022

At first, I worked on the students to learn formal language skills. After a while I saw how efficiently they communicated with each other. I would just listen. One day, one of my colleagues, young gay black woman band instructor, asked me what I was doing, letting the students jabber away. "Are you listening to them?"
I said yes. Wow, never saw someone trying to learn Ebonics.
The kids would talk to me knowing I understood what they said. I could not reply in kind, but could "conversate" somewhat.
They loved sending me rap lyrics and asked me to recite. They laughed their sides out when I didn't get the beat.
I guess that's why I appreciate Ari's dive into hip hop.
Bridging into a world a lot of people would prefer to ignore because it is hard.
Black history is a marvel and we are witness to it work towards assimilation with ours. It needs a lot of help, especially with so many others afraid of losing theirs.

FakeNoose

(32,826 posts)
7. I agree that Ari has the chops
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 09:43 PM
Dec 2022

Not everyone likes his style, but I kind of tune out when he does those hip-hop lyrics. So OK he's a little weird about that. But he's showing great intellect lately with his commentary on the J-6 Committee.

And I definitely like the clean-shaved Ari better than the 2-day scrubble Ari.



halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
9. I, too, like him clean-shaven, but he explained that on one show recently
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 09:54 PM
Dec 2022

where he said he has to shave multiple times in one day to achieve that, but with his job he is allowed to shave only a couple times a week.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
8. Ari grows on you.
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 09:51 PM
Dec 2022

When his show first started it seemed like he was the young lawyer/commentator trying to act cool. But over the last few years I have come to appreciate him, even though I'm not into rap or hip-hop (mainly because my aging ears and brain can't follow and process the speed of the words), but he genuinely loves the medium and uses that. He is a serious thinking commentator and super smart. I love to see the way he gets the drop on many of the Trumpers thinking they can explain to him how wrong he is and they end up making themselves look foolish just by that look on his face and a few nicely placed questions.

bottomofthehill

(8,352 posts)
11. Totally agree.
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 10:00 PM
Dec 2022

I have shit on the rap lyrics, but his knowledge of the law and how he presents when he chooses to play it strait is very good. I have enjoyed watching him and have picked up some interesting information. I wish he would stick to the more fact based less bullshit show.

cachukis

(2,277 posts)
13. Just a thought here, but is it safe to say that the black
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 10:07 PM
Dec 2022

population plays a significant role in our maintaining influence in congress.

Ari brings that to light with his references.

Me thinks we need to do that with other populations.

Ayman is brilliant.

Jose Diaz-Balart is top notch.

brush

(53,925 posts)
15. He's been top notch a lot lately on trump and J6. He often leaves republican guests...
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 10:24 PM
Dec 2022

blubbering and speechless as they try to combat his brilliant legal analysis which effectively counters their winger talking points spew.

I don't mind the rap quotes as often times they are quite cogent if you pay attention and don't just tune out. And you might learn to appreciate the art form.

Response to cachukis (Original post)

housecat

(3,121 posts)
17. A real pro makes it look easy. Watch Ari handle rightwing loudmouths that don't come up fpr air or
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 10:40 PM
Dec 2022

use punctuation. He not only makes them shut up and stop interrupting, he does it so smoothly you thinks it's easy. It is NOT easy to deal with obnoxious magat lawyers and lawmakers. He has the brains and temperament to handle any guest, so Ari is on my short list for tv analysts.

PCIntern

(25,608 posts)
23. I actually like Ari and appreciate his intellect...
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 09:50 AM
Dec 2022

The rap lyrics would be ok if he would quote something else once in a blue moon. For example, he could say: “for historical perspective one might recall that in 1981 Morton Kondrake wrote in The New Republic….”

In our house though we have fun: when something happens one of us might say, “Well, it’s a shame that the windshield got hit by a stone but as Eminem would say, ‘Fuck the roads’.

cachukis

(2,277 posts)
24. I concur and think his wheelhouse will widen. Right now, I'd
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 10:02 AM
Dec 2022

bet my .25 that he has a following like few others in his business.
We will watch his refinement for some time, I hope.
Smart people want to get better at what they do.
The comfort zone works better for others.

cachukis

(2,277 posts)
29. The time line is everything. Cause and effect.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 05:38 PM
Dec 2022

Great narration by laying out the case for anyone who understands human nature. Why would the motorcade wait on the ready? When the boss requests, you must be ready. The good employee, the scrub nurse for example, has the forceps in hand.
This story will rouse Dostoevsky from his grave to fill in the psychological dilemmas that the participants, "looking in the mirror," should be mulling.
Watergate was peanuts next to this.
This is the greatest historical drama that half the country wants to ignore. Netflix miniseries? Really.

lindysalsagal

(20,747 posts)
32. It was really good. Put the whole case for tfg's concerted attempts at a coup in a bucket.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 09:17 PM
Dec 2022

Tried to use the 12th amendment to dump our votes and give one vote to each state, knowing he had more R's than D's. That's why he tried to make it look like there were problems with the election.

Should be here tomorrow: https://www.nbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber

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