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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSay what you will, but Ari has been a heavyweight lately.
He called out Weissman for rolling his eyes at a Jay Z
riff, but delivered some highbrow insight.
Great to listen to top notch analysis of the issues of the day.
Lucky to have these minds to address a time in history, as it happens. We are living the book.
emulatorloo
(44,211 posts)Humor.
dem4decades
(11,307 posts)Paladin
(28,279 posts)Hey, you invited people to say what they will.
cachukis
(2,277 posts)only white person in my class for 15 years in downtown Tampa. I learned that Ebonics was not only a beautiful language, but very efficient.
I often read here about Ari's penchant for rap, but I see it as a chance to share his intellect with an audience that might not be drawn to high level discussion.
I read about the Karens chastising store patrons for speaking their native language.
As a non native speaker in foreign lands, I've learned that kindness is universal.
Spoken word has been around as long as the tongue could fashion sounds.
Sometimes those words strung together, make sense.
Paladin
(28,279 posts)Once you've been here a little longer, you'll find that there's a real love/hate situation with regard to Ari. He brings it on himself; I think he probably enjoys it.
cachukis
(2,277 posts)I acknowledged that love hate relationship. I read the same about others.
I would say that Ari has cut his chops sufficiently to be beyond worry about sidebar criticism.
My point is that Shakespeare doesn't get called out.
And I'm sure Waylon has a way with words that would earn a reference.
I wasn't a fan of sea urchin until my third bite.
plimsoll
(1,671 posts)Let alone a different language. But I think the Karens only complain about non-white folks speaking their native language.
Skittles
(153,226 posts)said it reminded her of Cockney in how distinct it is as a dialect.....
cachukis
(2,277 posts)At first, I worked on the students to learn formal language skills. After a while I saw how efficiently they communicated with each other. I would just listen. One day, one of my colleagues, young gay black woman band instructor, asked me what I was doing, letting the students jabber away. "Are you listening to them?"
I said yes. Wow, never saw someone trying to learn Ebonics.
The kids would talk to me knowing I understood what they said. I could not reply in kind, but could "conversate" somewhat.
They loved sending me rap lyrics and asked me to recite. They laughed their sides out when I didn't get the beat.
I guess that's why I appreciate Ari's dive into hip hop.
Bridging into a world a lot of people would prefer to ignore because it is hard.
Black history is a marvel and we are witness to it work towards assimilation with ours. It needs a lot of help, especially with so many others afraid of losing theirs.
Skittles
(153,226 posts)FakeNoose
(32,826 posts)Not everyone likes his style, but I kind of tune out when he does those hip-hop lyrics. So OK he's a little weird about that. But he's showing great intellect lately with his commentary on the J-6 Committee.
And I definitely like the clean-shaved Ari better than the 2-day scrubble Ari.
halfulglas
(1,654 posts)where he said he has to shave multiple times in one day to achieve that, but with his job he is allowed to shave only a couple times a week.
halfulglas
(1,654 posts)When his show first started it seemed like he was the young lawyer/commentator trying to act cool. But over the last few years I have come to appreciate him, even though I'm not into rap or hip-hop (mainly because my aging ears and brain can't follow and process the speed of the words), but he genuinely loves the medium and uses that. He is a serious thinking commentator and super smart. I love to see the way he gets the drop on many of the Trumpers thinking they can explain to him how wrong he is and they end up making themselves look foolish just by that look on his face and a few nicely placed questions.
bottomofthehill
(8,352 posts)I have shit on the rap lyrics, but his knowledge of the law and how he presents when he chooses to play it strait is very good. I have enjoyed watching him and have picked up some interesting information. I wish he would stick to the more fact based less bullshit show.
Paladin
(28,279 posts)My sentiments exactly.
cachukis
(2,277 posts)population plays a significant role in our maintaining influence in congress.
Ari brings that to light with his references.
Me thinks we need to do that with other populations.
Ayman is brilliant.
Jose Diaz-Balart is top notch.
brush
(53,925 posts)blubbering and speechless as they try to combat his brilliant legal analysis which effectively counters their winger talking points spew.
I don't mind the rap quotes as often times they are quite cogent if you pay attention and don't just tune out. And you might learn to appreciate the art form.
Go Ari
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housecat
(3,121 posts)use punctuation. He not only makes them shut up and stop interrupting, he does it so smoothly you thinks it's easy. It is NOT easy to deal with obnoxious magat lawyers and lawmakers. He has the brains and temperament to handle any guest, so Ari is on my short list for tv analysts.
YoshidaYui
(41,867 posts)I listen to his podcasts.
malaise
(269,225 posts)Rec
PCIntern
(25,608 posts)The rap lyrics would be ok if he would quote something else once in a blue moon. For example, he could say: for historical perspective one might recall that in 1981 Morton Kondrake wrote in The New Republic
.
In our house though we have fun: when something happens one of us might say, Well, its a shame that the windshield got hit by a stone but as Eminem would say, Fuck the roads.
cachukis
(2,277 posts)bet my .25 that he has a following like few others in his business.
We will watch his refinement for some time, I hope.
Smart people want to get better at what they do.
The comfort zone works better for others.
malaise
(269,225 posts)malaise
(269,225 posts)This is really good
cachukis
(2,277 posts)Great narration by laying out the case for anyone who understands human nature. Why would the motorcade wait on the ready? When the boss requests, you must be ready. The good employee, the scrub nurse for example, has the forceps in hand.
This story will rouse Dostoevsky from his grave to fill in the psychological dilemmas that the participants, "looking in the mirror," should be mulling.
Watergate was peanuts next to this.
This is the greatest historical drama that half the country wants to ignore. Netflix miniseries? Really.
malaise
(269,225 posts)Oh yes.
cachukis
(2,277 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,747 posts)Tried to use the 12th amendment to dump our votes and give one vote to each state, knowing he had more R's than D's. That's why he tried to make it look like there were problems with the election.
Should be here tomorrow: https://www.nbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber
malaise
(269,225 posts)Happy Holidays😀😀