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RandySF

(80,781 posts)
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 01:43 AM Dec 2022

NYT's Haberman Revealed As "Friendly" to Trump Administration in Jan 6th Report

Maggie Haberman of The New York Times has an interesting relationship with Donald Trump which has baffled her colleagues, readers, and critics alike.

While Haberman has written frank pieces portraying Trump as he is, she also has been generously lenient when a reprimand was in order. She's as equally guilty of whitewashing a lot of damning evidence about Trump while holding back information to use to sell her book about Trump, which was released in September.

But while Haberman continues to play coy regarding her status in TrumpWorld, the January 6th House Select Committee's report contains an interesting nugget of truth better than any CNN chyron.

The Committee released Cassidy Hutchinson's transcripts ahead of the full report on Thursday, and amongst the bombshells about the crappy White House counsel is this bit of advice she receives unironically from ethics lawyer Stefan Passantino, who tells her it doesn't matter if Haberman knows she's spoken to the January 6th Committee.

"Like, Maggie's friendly to us. We'll be fine."




https://hillreporter.com/commentary-nyt-s-haberman-revealed-as-friendly-to-trump-administration-in-jan-6th-report

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NYT's Haberman Revealed As "Friendly" to Trump Administration in Jan 6th Report (Original Post) RandySF Dec 2022 OP
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #1
Yep. rubbersole Dec 2022 #2
+1 dalton99a Dec 2022 #14
Yeah, not really a "bombshell". tanyev Dec 2022 #19
not me llashram Dec 2022 #44
At the grossly misleading OP leadline or that the corrupt tRump Hortensis Dec 2022 #54
No shit. ZZenith Dec 2022 #3
Revealed? It was revealed in 2015/2016 when she started covering his primary campaign. RockRaven Dec 2022 #4
Maggie's like the leashed Pricess Leah to Slobba the Glut Blue Owl Dec 2022 #5
Except Leia Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #18
She Killed Jabba, Too ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #24
And water is still wet Retrograde Dec 2022 #6
Hearing her speak is like slow death. BigmanPigman Dec 2022 #7
She always had the most ACCESS to Trump. We always knew why. Funtatlaguy Dec 2022 #8
Oh come now. Journalism is fluid - you just don't understand. tenderfoot Dec 2022 #9
Wait, #MAGAHaberman is a tRump toadie?!? Raster Dec 2022 #10
My dad was a true journalist DFW Dec 2022 #11
You are correct, but Haberman is not a propagandist. ificandream Dec 2022 #29
I haven't seen any of her tough stories on Trump DFW Dec 2022 #33
Here's the latest ... just out today. ificandream Dec 2022 #34
Remember Judith Miller? SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2022 #12
Exactly. Haberman was imbedded as deeply as Miller was. brush Dec 2022 #15
Not surprising at all really LittleGirl Dec 2022 #13
Haberman is a Trump propagandist masquerading as a journalist, a la Judith Miller dalton99a Dec 2022 #16
No, she's not. ificandream Dec 2022 #30
Totally Disagree. She uses her position to spin propaganda for TFG and enable his grift. Always has. Tommymac Dec 2022 #37
+1. A classic - right after the El Paso massacre: dalton99a Dec 2022 #41
I really doubt she cares about this right-wing type bashing even by liberals. ificandream Dec 2022 #42
she's the Mushroom Whisperer Celerity Dec 2022 #17
Roger Stone's goddaughter was a Trump-friendly? GoCubsGo Dec 2022 #20
Source for this unfounded accusation? ificandream Dec 2022 #31
Of course she was. This needs to spread far and wide. LiberalFighter Dec 2022 #21
Her resident fan club members haven't responded to this. tenderfoot Dec 2022 #22
They have. dalton99a Dec 2022 #32
Oh yes they have, see several posts above. Tommymac Dec 2022 #38
I'm sure they were impressed with the "but her emails" stenography crap tenderfoot Dec 2022 #47
Um, friendly to Cassidy Hutchinson if I read the "us" correctly. gulliver Dec 2022 #23
I disagree gratuitous Dec 2022 #27
Agreed. It really is ridiculous. And the type of stuff on Fox (they want you to call it) news. ificandream Dec 2022 #35
No, it's more like she stumbles like a drunk taking a roadside sobriety test. Tommymac Dec 2022 #39
Bless her heart. She and many others watched and let it burn then wrote books about it. Hotler Dec 2022 #25
She's a reporter. It's her job to report. Not spread Tucker Carlson-type lies. ificandream Dec 2022 #36
It seems her 'job' is to publi$h a tell-all book years after the fact. Tommymac Dec 2022 #40
Journalism reporting evolves over time. It's not a one-shot deal. ificandream Dec 2022 #43
Bob Woodward FelineOverlord Dec 2022 #45
So a Trump advisor is your source? LOL ... ificandream Dec 2022 #46
He was widely condemned. FelineOverlord Dec 2022 #52
You're really digging down low there, my friend. And to compare her with Fox says a lot. Nice try. ificandream Dec 2022 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #49
Every detail for every story is not always available when it's first published. ificandream Dec 2022 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #51
NSS niyad Dec 2022 #26
So a pundit's INTERPRETATION of the Jan. 6 report dumps on a reporter's work? ificandream Dec 2022 #28
Hillary was derailed by great journalism! tenderfoot Dec 2022 #48
You don't say! AllyCat Dec 2022 #55
Maggie NY Times 2015. "Hillary Clinton's Long Road to 'Sorry' Over Email Use" Botany Dec 2022 #56
+1. All the Anti-Hillary Propaganda That's Fit to Print. dalton99a Dec 2022 #57

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
54. At the grossly misleading OP leadline or that the corrupt tRump
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 07:20 PM
Dec 2022

attorney assigned to Hutchinson tried to get her to do wrong (and get herself in a world of trouble he's in) by assuring her a WaPo investigative reporter was "friendly?" She of course subsequently fired him.

There's really no substitute for reading for oneself.

ZZenith

(4,448 posts)
3. No shit.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 02:09 AM
Dec 2022

As pbmus is fond of saying.

She was clearly pushing the propaganda the whole time. NYT is long since gone from my “trustworthy news source” list.

RockRaven

(18,619 posts)
4. Revealed? It was revealed in 2015/2016 when she started covering his primary campaign.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 02:11 AM
Dec 2022

How did she get that assignment and why? Who is her mother? Who have her clients been? This was known years ago! And discussed and complained about ad nauseam.

Yet another data point confirming to an already established phenomenon isn't news and isn't a revelation. "Gravity revealed to exist this morning by my spilling of coffee upon the floor!"

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
18. Except Leia
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 07:34 AM
Dec 2022

Didn't want to be there. She was taken captive after trying to save Han.

Nobody forced Haberman to cover the Slobfather, and certainly not in such a servile manner. She did all of that of her own free will to benefit herself, never mind anyone else, or the country itself.

ProfessorGAC

(75,665 posts)
24. She Killed Jabba, Too
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 11:21 AM
Dec 2022

Maggie could have metaphorically killed TFG in 2016, but she did nothing

BigmanPigman

(54,529 posts)
7. Hearing her speak is like slow death.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 02:29 AM
Dec 2022

She has such a monotone, boring, lackluster delivery. It makes her writing seem exciting in comparison and her writing sucks so that's says a lot right there. BORING and prejudiced...not a good reporter or a guest on a panel either.

DFW

(59,672 posts)
11. My dad was a true journalist
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 03:44 AM
Dec 2022

Although a life-long confirmed Democrat, his professional allegiance was to the truth, not to his party. He got angry calls all the time from Democratic Senators and Congressmen for revealing things they didn’t want published. By the same token, he was praised in the Congressional Record (!!) by a right wing Republican for being tough on him, but never abandoning objectivity.

That’s the difference between being a journalist and a propagandist. The absolute worst are the ones who are propagandists with a specific agenda, and yet claim to be journalists while lying about their agenda.

ificandream

(11,643 posts)
29. You are correct, but Haberman is not a propagandist.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 01:21 PM
Dec 2022

Otherwise, she wouldn't have written many of the tough stories she's written on Trump.

DFW

(59,672 posts)
33. I haven't seen any of her tough stories on Trump
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 01:38 PM
Dec 2022

If she has written some, then she does indeed deserve credit for them, but going easy on him during the 2016 campaign is not something that can be overlooked, either.


I haven't lived in North America for many years, so my main press stories are the ones I see locally here (western Europe). I do get back a few times a year, though.

ificandream

(11,643 posts)
34. Here's the latest ... just out today.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 01:47 PM
Dec 2022
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/us/politics/jan-6-committee-report.html

As for going easy on him in 2016, try searching through the Times archives.

Here's one I can remember. I wouldn't call this going easy on him:

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/07/21/in-exchange-of-fire-donald-trump-has-lindsey-grahams-number/

In Exchange of Fire, Donald Trump Has Lindsey Graham’s Number (July, 2015)

Senator Lindsey Graham will probably have to change his cellphone number.

That’s because Donald J. Trump, the provocative Republican presidential contender, brandished a card showing the South Carolina senator’s phone number from the stage at a speech on Tuesday afternoon, reading the digits aloud and encouraging people to dial.

The reaction on Twitter was explosive. Several journalists wrote that the number was, indeed, Mr. Graham’s. Some people watching the speech on a livestream said they dialed it; one reported hearing a voice mail message identifying the phone number as belonging to Mr. Graham, and another said a man who sounded like Mr. Graham answered and hung up.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,366 posts)
12. Remember Judith Miller?
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 04:03 AM
Dec 2022

Something tells me Maggie is going to have a lot of 'splaining to do. Miller is still rewriting herstory.

LittleGirl

(8,937 posts)
13. Not surprising at all really
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 04:22 AM
Dec 2022

CNN has her on repeatedly and she drives me crazy. She says that she “thinks 45 thinks this way” because of course, 45 is giving her daily phone calls. How else would she know? 45 loves to call journalists and feed them with insider info because he’s a gawd damn idiot like that.

What truly convinced me so many months ago was reading about her and her families connection to 45. All those people hang out together secretly but you can’t fool me! I see them for who they are. When Haberman comes on CNN, I change the channel or mute her. I don’t believe her or trust her. She’s a fraud.

dalton99a

(91,784 posts)
16. Haberman is a Trump propagandist masquerading as a journalist, a la Judith Miller
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 04:52 AM
Dec 2022

DUers have known this for years.


ificandream

(11,643 posts)
30. No, she's not.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 01:24 PM
Dec 2022

As someone who worked in journalism for over 30 years, she's an excellent reporter. It's sad that fucking Fox, which wouldn't know news if it bit them in the ass, is the standard for journalism for too many people these days. Fox-type propaganda is not journalism. The truth is. And the truth isn't always what you want to hear or written the way you want to hear it (a la Tucker Carlson). Haberman is an excellent reporter.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
37. Totally Disagree. She uses her position to spin propaganda for TFG and enable his grift. Always has.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 08:22 AM
Dec 2022

She occasionally will 'back bite' him just to cover herself. She is not dumb.

She has self-ruined her own reputation. And the NYT along with it, IMO.

You can keep trying to redeem her here, good luck with that.

As most of the comments on this OP show, DU'ers aren't dummies either and know what the real deal is.

ificandream

(11,643 posts)
42. I really doubt she cares about this right-wing type bashing even by liberals.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 09:52 AM
Dec 2022

She knows what her job is. It's to report facts in an unbiased manner, not interpret them or weave conspiracy theories.

As for DU'ers, I've gotten many responses that they appreciate my comments from someone who worked in journalism. It's funny to see people who think they know what journalism is when they've never been in the business. That's like someone saying that know how to build a house when they've never been in the construction business. They don't call it journalism school for nothing.

GoCubsGo

(34,629 posts)
20. Roger Stone's goddaughter was a Trump-friendly?
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 09:14 AM
Dec 2022

Gosh, whoda thunk that?

File this in the "No shit, Sherlock" file.

 

tenderfoot

(8,982 posts)
22. Her resident fan club members haven't responded to this.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 11:15 AM
Dec 2022

Hmmm 🤔

At least we can see your slips now.

gulliver

(13,695 posts)
23. Um, friendly to Cassidy Hutchinson if I read the "us" correctly.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 11:19 AM
Dec 2022

And I do.

This Haberman bashing is ridiculous. Always mistaken. She walks a fine line, and she walks it masterfully.

ificandream

(11,643 posts)
35. Agreed. It really is ridiculous. And the type of stuff on Fox (they want you to call it) news.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 02:48 PM
Dec 2022

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
39. No, it's more like she stumbles like a drunk taking a roadside sobriety test.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 08:29 AM
Dec 2022

She is a mediocre, at best, hack, whose family connections have made her career.



Hotler

(13,717 posts)
25. Bless her heart. She and many others watched and let it burn then wrote books about it.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 11:48 AM
Dec 2022

I hope she has a nice day.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
40. It seems her 'job' is to publi$h a tell-all book years after the fact.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 08:32 AM
Dec 2022

She could have done her journalistic duties and exposed the criminal TFG administration when it really mattered.

Instead, she hoarded those facts like a miser hoards their gold, waiting to cash them in on a lucrative book deal.

ificandream

(11,643 posts)
43. Journalism reporting evolves over time. It's not a one-shot deal.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 09:58 AM
Dec 2022

The accusations that she withheld things to sell the book are silly. That would have gotten her fired. Stories evolve. That's why in journalism there are follow-up stories.

And if you notice, you never see a male reporter get hit with the accusations she gets. Wonder why that is?

FelineOverlord

(3,851 posts)
45. Bob Woodward
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 11:33 AM
Dec 2022

Has received plenty of criticism about withholding information for his book.

People may have DIED because of it.

But certain reporters now only care about their vERy SpeSShul AcCess and 💰🤑

And yes, I have been a reporter in the past.





ificandream

(11,643 posts)
46. So a Trump advisor is your source? LOL ...
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 11:44 AM
Dec 2022

From Wikipedia (admittedly, not the perfect source, but ...): "Stephanie Winston Wolkoff (née Batinkoff) is an American fashion and entertainment executive and former senior advisor to the first lady Melania Trump. Before her controversial[2] role in politics, she produced various notable events in New York City, including the Met Gala, and later worked as the founding fashion director for Lincoln Center and facilitated the expansion of its Mercedes-Benz Fashion Week.[3]"

FelineOverlord

(3,851 posts)
52. He was widely condemned.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:50 PM
Dec 2022

What he did was completely unacceptable.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1239707

Anyway. . .

But clearly some people believe everything from Maga Haberman.

They actually think she’s a good reporter.

She is not.

Haberman is called “Trump’s stenographer” for a reason.

She’s no better than Fox News.

She will “criticize” Trump briefly and then she goes right back to defending him.

She DESPERATELY wants him back in office so she can be relevant again.





ificandream

(11,643 posts)
53. You're really digging down low there, my friend. And to compare her with Fox says a lot. Nice try.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 03:18 PM
Dec 2022

Response to ificandream (Reply #36)

ificandream

(11,643 posts)
50. Every detail for every story is not always available when it's first published.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:41 PM
Dec 2022

Look at how many things we've found out about Trump since Jan. 6. Any journalist will tell you journalism is an evolving thing. As I've said before, if she withheld facts for her book, she'd get fired by a newspaper like the New York Times. (Certainly the dopes at Fox wouldn't. Since they're not journalism.)

Response to ificandream (Reply #50)

ificandream

(11,643 posts)
28. So a pundit's INTERPRETATION of the Jan. 6 report dumps on a reporter's work?
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 01:18 PM
Dec 2022

People have to stop using the Fox "idea" of journalism. Which is exactly what's happening with this "story". That whole hillreporter.com story is a piece of garbage.

"While Haberman has written frank pieces portraying Trump as he is, she also has been generously lenient when a reprimand was in order. She's as equally guilty of whitewashing a lot of damning evidence about Trump while holding back information to use to sell her book about Trump, which was released in September."

So where are all the examples of her "leniency"? Guess what. There are none.

How many people in this thread have read her book "Confidence Man"? I've written about it elsewhere on this site. It was a deep examination into Trump's history. No, it's not a Fox slander-and-go work, and it's not a whitewash but a very intelligent look at him.

The OP is typical Fox slander-and-run crap. We have more smarts than the Fox/MAGAT idiots to believe this junk. This is the type of crap they do. We shouldn't sink to their level. And this thing does.

Botany

(76,202 posts)
56. Maggie NY Times 2015. "Hillary Clinton's Long Road to 'Sorry' Over Email Use"
Sun Dec 25, 2022, 09:19 AM
Dec 2022

NY Times2015

By Maggie Haberman and Amy Chozick

Sept. 11, 2015

Hillary Rodham Clinton did not want to apologize.

For months, when advisers or friends gently suggested she say she was sorry for using a private email address and server while at the State Department, Mrs. Clinton replied that her actions had been within the law and that political opponents and journalists were manufacturing the controversy. Apologizing, she argued, would only legitimize it.

On Tuesday, she relented. In an interview with ABC News, Mrs. Clinton said using a private email had been “a mistake,” adding: “I’m sorry about that.”

The tortured path to what some of Mrs. Clinton’s supporters saw as an overdue and essential step is the story of a presidential campaign in flux, adapting to unanticipated challenges it was not entirely prepared to handle — and of a candidate whose instincts, over a tumultuous lifetime in politics, have repeatedly guided her toward digging in, not giving in, when under attack.

But Mrs. Clinton, sliding in the polls — which show voters increasingly questioning her trustworthiness — does not want to see this shot at the presidency slip away. And the pleas from friends and advisers became more fervent almost a month ago, according to interviews with a half-dozen people with direct knowledge of the discussions, most of whom insisted on anonymity to discuss private conversations.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/12/us/politics/hillary-clinton-email-secretary-of-state.html

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