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CatWoman

(80,290 posts)
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 12:41 AM Dec 2022

I miss the way Christmas used to be

Last edited Sat Dec 24, 2022, 01:18 AM - Edit history (1)

the networks used to broadcast wall to wall Christmas specials

No more Charlie Brown Christmas -- unless you pay Apple.

No more classic "Scrooge" or "A Christmas Carol". They have been replaced by a very dark "FX Christmas Carol"


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I miss the way Christmas used to be (Original Post) CatWoman Dec 2022 OP
NYC. WPIX used to broadcast the "Christmas Yule Log." It was a loop of a fireplace without logs. 3Hotdogs Dec 2022 #1
You can watch Nick Offerman for 10 hours! LeftInTX Dec 2022 #5
I was not into it. But my father-in-law had it on every Xmas eve. I miss the poor bugger. 3Hotdogs Dec 2022 #29
I didn't how much that was embedded in my Christmas psyche until... SYFROYH Dec 2022 #49
Currently on "Great American Family Channel" until 9pm. Pathwalker Dec 2022 #50
Whatever, CW, lovya forever then/now UTUSN Dec 2022 #2
.... CatWoman Dec 2022 #3
Well, I'm sorta secular, but UTUSN Dec 2022 #6
the song i replied with is from the movie "The Odessa File" CatWoman Dec 2022 #7
I always miss the point, but my love is eternal UTUSN Dec 2022 #8
as is mine CatWoman Dec 2022 #10
So much "entertainment" is dark any more. cilla4progress Dec 2022 #4
This!!! Peacetrain Dec 2022 #40
Right? cilla4progress Dec 2022 #41
We were just talking about this a couple of weeks ago Peacetrain Dec 2022 #42
Bad Santa. Billy Bob was great. twodogsbarking Dec 2022 #9
the only Christmas movie I like Skittles Dec 2022 #11
Halloween movies are better. twodogsbarking Dec 2022 #28
Here ya go. Warning: A B&W movie TheBlackAdder Dec 2022 #12
i love that movie CatWoman Dec 2022 #13
Oh! Ty! My favorite "A Christmas Carol". (I don't have a TV at the moment) Second fav is the Bill electric_blue68 Dec 2022 #25
Firefox with the "Enhancer for YouTube" plug-in. No more ads, ever again. TheBlackAdder Dec 2022 #34
Cool. Ty. electric_blue68 Dec 2022 #51
Thank you. I was able to watch it without commercials because of your post. scipan Dec 2022 #54
You mean stuff like this? The Andy Williams Christmas Show (1966) GReedDiamond Dec 2022 #14
IIRC, CBS sold the cartoons specials I loved Rhiannon12866 Dec 2022 #15
And practically none of the traditional Christmas carols. Disaffected Dec 2022 #16
ever hear Temptations' Silent Night? CatWoman Dec 2022 #39
A whole lot better than the version I heard Disaffected Dec 2022 #43
that recording is at least 30 years old, if not older CatWoman Dec 2022 #44
And I'm a lot older than that, if not older. Disaffected Dec 2022 #47
Also too you could walk into a store and not give a shit about what the greeter said. Initech Dec 2022 #17
Probably because people don't watch TV like they use to JI7 Dec 2022 #18
In 1966 you watched what the parents wanted to. ABC, NBC, CBS. PERIOD... czarjak Dec 2022 #19
I HATE THE .... you must pay cable companies especially Apple. I would NEVER watch apple Trueblue1968 Dec 2022 #20
I don't own a regular TV, so I'm totally insulated from whatever Christmas specials PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2022 #21
You can stream anything on the web these days. ItsjustMe Dec 2022 #22
Amahl and the Night Visitors, Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol, Buns_of_Fire Dec 2022 #23
Mr. Magoo (1962) John1956PA Dec 2022 #24
you can stream Magoo's Christmas Carol on Peacock CatWoman Dec 2022 #35
Thanks. Peacock probably presents the original "play-within-a-play" version. John1956PA Dec 2022 #37
and Magoo knocks down everything and the director gets whacked in the head CatWoman Dec 2022 #45
Thank you for refreshing my pleasant 1960s memory. John1956PA Dec 2022 #46
I agree, the networks hardly have any holidays shows left. Raine Dec 2022 #26
I watch old Christmas specials on YouTube. Those are fun. Much more of the money used brewens Dec 2022 #27
I guess I'm the opposite tavernier Dec 2022 #30
I like YouTube for that reason. llmart Dec 2022 #33
go to any goodwill or salvation army store and check the dvd section dembotoz Dec 2022 #31
In Rod Serling's update of Charles Dickens, HAB911 Dec 2022 #32
The Alistair Sim Scrooge... ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #36
Bad Santa was playing today on one of the channels. Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #38
network TV is no longer that relevant at all, has not been for ages Celerity Dec 2022 #48
Because nothing good is on it. GoodRaisin Dec 2022 #52
No, it's because there are a vast multiplicity of other options out there via the internet, cable, & Celerity Dec 2022 #53

3Hotdogs

(15,368 posts)
1. NYC. WPIX used to broadcast the "Christmas Yule Log." It was a loop of a fireplace without logs.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 12:44 AM
Dec 2022

I don't know what kind of wood they used but the flames burned for hours.

3Hotdogs

(15,368 posts)
29. I was not into it. But my father-in-law had it on every Xmas eve. I miss the poor bugger.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 08:31 AM
Dec 2022

-got his head fucked up during WW II. He was driving a jeep, somewhere in France. A bomb went off at the side of the road and destroyed the guy in the passenger seat. Herb was unharmed.

On the lighter side, he was a radio technician. His unit captured a German base. Inside was a LARGE transmitter and Herb really wanted it.
As they were leaving the base to continue towards Berlin, he wrote his address on the transmitter and left that morning with his unit.


Weeks later, comes a knock on his wife's door in New Jersey, "Where do you want this, Mam?" Marie was pissed.

SYFROYH

(34,214 posts)
49. I didn't how much that was embedded in my Christmas psyche until...
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 05:47 PM
Dec 2022

...my wife found it on cable and we watched/listened.

Now there are many yule logs with various musical tastes to choose from.

Pathwalker

(6,603 posts)
50. Currently on "Great American Family Channel" until 9pm.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 06:16 PM
Dec 2022

I'm recording it for later. Enjoy!

CatWoman

(80,290 posts)
7. the song i replied with is from the movie "The Odessa File"
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 01:17 AM
Dec 2022

starring Jon Voight.

That movie made him a fan of mine --but now he's gone completely crazy.

The Odessa was a secret group of Nazis who fled Germany after WW2 ended and fanned out among the world -- most notably in South America.

cilla4progress

(26,525 posts)
4. So much "entertainment" is dark any more.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 12:52 AM
Dec 2022

Gratuitous violence.

Who is amused seeing people terrorized in their homes??

cilla4progress

(26,525 posts)
41. Right?
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:01 PM
Dec 2022

In people's darkest, most terrified moments, which we all hope none would have to go through...and it's monetized??!!

Peacetrain

(24,288 posts)
42. We were just talking about this a couple of weeks ago
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:03 PM
Dec 2022

That so much is blood spilled and guts running.. I just turn it off.. and there is such a joylessness in so many media offerings..

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
12. Here ya go. Warning: A B&W movie
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 01:34 AM
Dec 2022

.



Crotchety Victorian businessman Ebenezer Scrooge (Alastair Sim) has no use for festivity, even at Christmas. After resentfully allowing timid clerk Bob Cratchit (Mervyn Johns) to have the holiday to spend with his loving wife (Hermione Baddeley) and family, Scrooge is swept into a nightmare. The ghost of his late partner, Jacob Marley (Michael Hordern), appears, warning that Ebenezer will be visited by three more spirits who will show the coldhearted man the error of his parsimonious behavior.



And perhaps the best parody version ever:

https://dai.ly/x5t4g30

.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
25. Oh! Ty! My favorite "A Christmas Carol". (I don't have a TV at the moment) Second fav is the Bill
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 04:25 AM
Dec 2022

Murry one. 👍

I'll save it for tommorow night Christmas Eve. 🙂👍

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
34. Firefox with the "Enhancer for YouTube" plug-in. No more ads, ever again.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 10:58 AM
Dec 2022

.

Watch YouTube movies without any interruptions.

.

GReedDiamond

(5,549 posts)
14. You mean stuff like this? The Andy Williams Christmas Show (1966)
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 01:39 AM
Dec 2022


I haven't watched it, unless I forgot about watching it 56 years ago.

My dad was a big Andy Williams fan.

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
15. IIRC, CBS sold the cartoons specials I loved
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 01:43 AM
Dec 2022

My favorite was "How the Grinch Stole Christmas," we had all the Dr. Seuss books as kids. BTW, I was once in the play "A Charlie Brown Christmas" at school which we performed at other schools - and I played Charlie Brown! I went to an all-girls school!

Disaffected

(6,401 posts)
16. And practically none of the traditional Christmas carols.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:16 AM
Dec 2022

Just crappy, jazzed up versions if at all.

On CBC radio this morning they actually played a R&R version of Deck the Halls. The worst I've ever heard though was a Stevie Wonder (IIRC) version of Silent Night.

Disaffected

(6,401 posts)
43. A whole lot better than the version I heard
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 04:09 PM
Dec 2022

but still, I much prefer the original melody and lyrics - they don't need "enhancement" in any way IMO.

I guess this may be because that's the way I remember Christmas carols as a kid and I don't get the same wonderful nostalgic feeling with the modern "interpretations". It's just a personal preference....

JI7

(93,616 posts)
18. Probably because people don't watch TV like they use to
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:32 AM
Dec 2022

People still watch these things but they decide when to watch it .

Before there was a certain "unity" nationally with most people watching the same thing .

czarjak

(13,639 posts)
19. In 1966 you watched what the parents wanted to. ABC, NBC, CBS. PERIOD...
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:42 AM
Dec 2022

Although cable options first started to be available.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
21. I don't own a regular TV, so I'm totally insulated from whatever Christmas specials
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 03:10 AM
Dec 2022

are out there.

I don't happen to turn on radio stations that play Christmas music.

So I'm pretty much immune/insulated from such things,

Honestly, I'll suggest you turn off the radio, or at least only tune in to NPR stations that only broadcast informational stuff, turn off your broadcast TV, open a book or start watching some CD that strikes you as interesting.

I'm honestly astonished at times at how out of touch I am. No TV. So I'm not watching broadcast stuff. In the car, which I'm not in more than ten minutes per day, means there really isn't much time, I'm either listening to NPR or have it off when I can't find a program I want to listen to.

I read A LOT. Well over one hundred books a year. About half of what I read is non fiction, the other half various types of fiction. I happen to be a writer (very obscure, trust me) who had been published a handful of times. When I write, it always is something science-fictional, even though s-f is a very small percentage of what I read. Huh. Go figure.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
23. Amahl and the Night Visitors, Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol,
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 03:47 AM
Dec 2022

good ol' Charlie Brown. All gone.

I've been told that this year's hot ticket is Spiderman's Christmas Universe: Wreck the Halls. (In this universe, Spiderman is an elf, you see? Lots of CGI and hot reindeer action. You'll love it, they said. I think they were pulling my mistletoe.)

John1956PA

(4,964 posts)
37. Thanks. Peacock probably presents the original "play-within-a-play" version.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 01:31 PM
Dec 2022

At the beginning, Mr. Magoo has trouble locating the theater while traveling in his car. At the end of the play, the cast takes its bow.

John1956PA

(4,964 posts)
46. Thank you for refreshing my pleasant 1960s memory.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 04:32 PM
Dec 2022

The vivid colors and elegantly simply artistry of the animation cause the images of his animated classic to remain with me

Raine

(31,177 posts)
26. I agree, the networks hardly have any holidays shows left.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 05:12 AM
Dec 2022

Last edited Sat Dec 24, 2022, 08:29 AM - Edit history (1)

They sold most of them off like Charlie Brown etc, then the few they still have they repeat a few days after the first showing.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
27. I watch old Christmas specials on YouTube. Those are fun. Much more of the money used
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 05:50 AM
Dec 2022

to stay right in our towns too. That's a problem year around but Christmas made the year for family owned and operated businesses when I was a kid.

I went to school with a lot of guys that fully expected to be retiring from the family business about now. They were lucky if they weren't shut down by the 90s.

Now all the profit is sucked out of town and into the pockets of corporate officers and shareholders.

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
30. I guess I'm the opposite
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 09:42 AM
Dec 2022

I can now watch whatever Christmas show or film whenever I want, listen to all my favorite music at the touch of a button. And I’m really old.
I don’t miss the days when I had to stay up till midnight to catch A Christmas Carol, and if the tv antenna was acting up, I might miss half of it. Or wait half the day for the radio to play a nice Christmas song after listening to Alvin and the Chipmunks over and over. A lot to love about the 50’s, but the chipmunks, not so much.

llmart

(17,617 posts)
33. I like YouTube for that reason.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 10:30 AM
Dec 2022

I can watch whatever I want to watch whenever I want. I do understand though that it's usually the anticipation that makes something special.

 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
31. go to any goodwill or salvation army store and check the dvd section
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 09:50 AM
Dec 2022

generally enough xmas sugary crap to make any viewer diabetic

HAB911

(10,440 posts)
32. In Rod Serling's update of Charles Dickens,
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 09:56 AM
Dec 2022

industrial tycoon Daniel Grudge (Sterling Hayden) has never recovered from the loss of his 22-year-old son Marley (Peter Fonda), killed in action during Christmas Eve of 1944. The embittered Grudge has only scorn for any American involvement in international affairs. But then the Ghost of Christmas Past (Steve Lawrence) takes him back through time to a World War I troopship. Grudge also is visited by the Ghost of Christmas Present (Pat Hingle), and the Ghost of Christmas Future (Robert Shaw) gives him a tour across a desolate landscape where he sees the ruins of a once-great civilization.


ProfessorGAC

(76,703 posts)
36. The Alistair Sim Scrooge...
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 01:13 PM
Dec 2022

...was on last night, and on another channel today. Both local Chicago channels though, not network.
We're watching Fred Claus later this afternoon.

GoodRaisin

(10,922 posts)
52. Because nothing good is on it.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 11:39 PM
Dec 2022

A while back in time someone said, “wouldn’t entertainment be so much better if someone had a tv show with multiple contestants, and let’s have one go home each week until there is only one left!”.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
53. No, it's because there are a vast multiplicity of other options out there via the internet, cable, &
Sun Dec 25, 2022, 12:07 AM
Dec 2022

satellite systems. This has been the case for decades.

THe OP seems to yearn for 'good old days' homogeneity, which is an utterly stifling template for me to live in.

I adore late 1970's to mid 1980's punk, post-punk, new wave, no wave, industrial, electro, etc etc genres of music, but I sure as hell have ZERO desire to go back and live then, let alone even further back in the past, where we quickly reach a time period in the US where I could be jailed or killed just for living my life as an interracially married, mixed-race black open lesbian. Unfortunately there are now again tens up tens of millions of RW christofash bellends who OPENLY want to return to those dark ages via a political (and kinetic if need be) revolution. They yearn for a return to to their dystopian and warped version of the 'good old days'.

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