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PA_jen

(1,114 posts)
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 07:54 AM Dec 2022

I just need to say this.

I am tired of Christmas starting in OCT and all the marketing and then Dec 26th everything is taken down and stops.

Dec 25th is the FIRST day of the 12 days of Christmas not the 12th day.

I remember a time when this time kind of slow down. Holiday parties and get togethers. I remember being at events with family friends who are Jewish, even agnostic it was the idea of common goodwill and just being together.

I am just so tired of the season is no longer a season but a marketing and run up to 1 day then that's it.

Happy Holidays However you choose to or not to celebrate.

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I just need to say this. (Original Post) PA_jen Dec 2022 OP
My take from an early age... 2naSalit Dec 2022 #1
I agree purr-rat beauty Dec 2022 #2
I totally agree Siwsan Dec 2022 #3
Your middle paragraph was the Christmas of my youth. Once the grandmother hlthe2b Dec 2022 #15
I just found some old picture albums and put them on the coffee table Siwsan Dec 2022 #30
This year is a 'no tree' event for me also. Butterflylady Dec 2022 #29
well that soup sounds fantastic.... bahboo Dec 2022 #36
Under capitalism everything boils down to consumerism and profit. Laffy Kat Dec 2022 #4
Great to have the family together. Food is wonderful. twodogsbarking Dec 2022 #5
Most of my remaining cousins live on the west side of Michigan, or out of state Siwsan Dec 2022 #31
Agreed! I prefer to start after Thanksgiving and keep going til about Jan 6 Maeve Dec 2022 #6
Same with birthdays for us. A birthday is a week long. LakeArenal Dec 2022 #23
I couldn't agree more! llmart Dec 2022 #7
I saw one store start to set up Valentines Day already JI7 Dec 2022 #8
About 10 years ago, eBay stupidly thought Dec. 26 pertained . . . John1956PA Dec 2022 #9
LOL hlthe2b Dec 2022 #13
+1 Rebl2 Dec 2022 #28
Same. This nonstop holiday shit is just commercial. ananda Dec 2022 #10
It's Evolution HAB911 Dec 2022 #11
I think that is why I do so much less for Christmas than in many years past... hlthe2b Dec 2022 #12
Agreed! The merchants have ruined it for the rest of us FakeNoose Dec 2022 #14
Christmas is for kids, I don't let any of the rest bother me, enjoy what you can in your own life Shanti Shanti Shanti Dec 2022 #16
I'm glad when it's over because it seems to start around Halloween But that's me mucifer Dec 2022 #17
Every holiday is what YOU make it. LakeArenal Dec 2022 #18
This! nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #21
🎄🦄🥂 LakeArenal Dec 2022 #22
Or maybe in the airport? Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #34
Perfect. ☺️🎄🤶 LakeArenal Dec 2022 #42
I'm with you! And back acha! Scrivener7 Dec 2022 #43
I decorate but no one ever makes the time to see it. LakeArenal Dec 2022 #44
I have three neighbors who don't decorate. Each of them goes to Scrivener7 Dec 2022 #45
"Decorate the tree together!!!???" 😲😱 LakeArenal Dec 2022 #46
Lol! To each our own. Scrivener7 Dec 2022 #47
I wish it started in oct Javaman Dec 2022 #19
I do not like the commercialization of the holiday nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #20
Good points Marthe48 Dec 2022 #24
Christmas is a Twelve Day Feast IbogaProject Dec 2022 #25
This. Plus the whole "Christmas is all about the FAMILY" thing... TygrBright Dec 2022 #26
Thank you. Boomerproud Dec 2022 #35
It has to be how you live it. Hortensis Dec 2022 #27
Agreed. Here are our 12 Days: Tommymac Dec 2022 #32
Holidays makes me think of my USMC drill instructor NoMoreRepugs Dec 2022 #33
TV Christmas commercials this year are awful. Chipper Chat Dec 2022 #37
American capitalism llashram Dec 2022 #38
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: usonian Dec 2022 #39
heh Skittles Dec 2022 #49
Buy your Valentine's Day candy now. Sneederbunk Dec 2022 #40
UK TV up until the early 1990s reinforced this somewhat. mwooldri Dec 2022 #41
As a general rule, I start celebrating the day after Thanksgiving (and have for my entire life) Ms. Toad Dec 2022 #48
I'm over it. Iggo Dec 2022 #50
Yup. TreasonousBastard Dec 2022 #51

purr-rat beauty

(1,164 posts)
2. I agree
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 08:15 AM
Dec 2022

But it just may be capitalism, not the people. We are celebrating our Christmas with our kids on New Years Eve morning as one was traveling and the other spending time with his other parent. So it's nice to have this chance to stretch it out for them. We'll topple a ton of Christmas movies "post season" this week no doubt.

Siwsan

(27,830 posts)
3. I totally agree
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 08:16 AM
Dec 2022

I'm not much of a Christmas person but I participate for my family. They're coming by for dinner, tonight, and they are bringing dinner, tomorrow. I always insist on NO GIFTS, just food, drink and loving company is perfect. Sometimes they listen. Sometimes they don't.

Back in the day, before people started moving away or dying, our family had a huge gathering for Christmas Eve. My grandmother, and then my aunts and mother, made a very traditional pea, mushroom and potato soup. I'm the last one in the family who knows how to make it. There's no actual recipe - just ingredients and 'suggestions'. It's all a matter of getting the roux the right color. The first taste always brings back so many wonderful memories.

We will probably watch 'A Christmas Story' tonight and the 'A Christmas Story Christmas' tomorrow.

And, of course, I don't bother with a tree because, well, i have four very rambunctious cats. A tree would be a non stop disaster.

hlthe2b

(113,476 posts)
15. Your middle paragraph was the Christmas of my youth. Once the grandmother
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 09:13 AM
Dec 2022

(the matriarch) and the elder uncles all started to die, Christmas celebrations pretty much did too. But, I do love those memories of old.

Siwsan

(27,830 posts)
30. I just found some old picture albums and put them on the coffee table
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 10:25 AM
Dec 2022

My niece LOVES to look at family photos.

Butterflylady

(4,584 posts)
29. This year is a 'no tree' event for me also.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 10:20 AM
Dec 2022

Since I now have Boots the tree would be a giant toy and I would be frazzled trying to keep it from destruction. But Boots is my buddy and he has me wrapped around his 🐾.

Laffy Kat

(16,932 posts)
4. Under capitalism everything boils down to consumerism and profit.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 08:17 AM
Dec 2022

It's sickening. It makes me want to leave during the holidays.

Siwsan

(27,830 posts)
31. Most of my remaining cousins live on the west side of Michigan, or out of state
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 10:32 AM
Dec 2022

No aunts or uncles left. My two nephews live out of state, too, so there's really just my brother, niece and her husband left.

Unfortunately my late sister's husband decided we're not important enough to share either day with us, and that includes his daughter.

His loss. She's spending the weekend eating, drinking, celebrating and laughing with her husband, me and my brother.

Maeve

(43,350 posts)
6. Agreed! I prefer to start after Thanksgiving and keep going til about Jan 6
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 08:27 AM
Dec 2022

In Irish tradition, Epiphany is "Women's Christmas" when the ladies get together over cakes and sherry (more likely white wine, now) and let the men watch the kids and keep house--we've worked hard and it's time to enjoy! And the ornaments come down on the 7th. Last year, we didn't have the kids together til the 28th, this year, we won't see some til Jan 1st.

Don't let the commercializers get you down. Keep going thru New Years!

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
23. Same with birthdays for us. A birthday is a week long.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 10:07 AM
Dec 2022

Whoever gets treated to their favorite dinners, treats and activities. Cards received early or late are celebrated individually.

llmart

(17,499 posts)
7. I couldn't agree more!
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 08:37 AM
Dec 2022

Two weeks ago my local Meijer store was already putting out the Valentines stuff. I've never much liked holidays anyway. There's so much expectation surrounding the holidays and not everyone is happy/jolly. If they are having problems in their lives it only exacerbates their sadness or depression. Growing up we were poor but as children we would still get excited about the tree and candy canes on it and maybe a game or two under the tree that all seven of us shared. In addition to that I may have gotten new socks or underwear, but I still got excited about it. There was an unspoken rule in the family that once you reached thirteen you no longer got any presents, only the younger ones got something. So I grew up just enjoying the simple parts of Christmas.

John1956PA

(4,905 posts)
9. About 10 years ago, eBay stupidly thought Dec. 26 pertained . . .
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 08:39 AM
Dec 2022

. . . to the SPORT of boxing. I was a aghast to see that a powerhouse web commerce company made such an idiotic mistake and filled it's opening page with promotions for merchandise related to that sport.

hlthe2b

(113,476 posts)
12. I think that is why I do so much less for Christmas than in many years past...
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 09:10 AM
Dec 2022

It is so abrupt to go from 100mph planning, celebrating, decorating, shopping, entertaining, and fixating on the holiday and its traditions to BANG, December 26--nada. Not to diminish true grief, but it does seem to instill a sense of loss and dread if by chance you aren't too exhausted to feel it.

Lower-key celebrations that end after New Year's seem much more to my liking. And this year, in particular, I look forward to the New Year's eve NCAA football bowls, actually having a "dog" in the fight, which makes me quite content not to have any real New Year's eve plans.

 

Shanti Shanti Shanti

(12,047 posts)
16. Christmas is for kids, I don't let any of the rest bother me, enjoy what you can in your own life
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 09:49 AM
Dec 2022

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
18. Every holiday is what YOU make it.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 09:51 AM
Dec 2022

It’s what goes on in YOUR heart and home.

Peace on Earth. Goodwill to All.

Scrivener7

(59,183 posts)
43. I'm with you! And back acha!
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 05:09 PM
Dec 2022


I got Roku, so I don't see too many ads. And for me the season means pretty decorations in my home and my town, a few nice small parties, and lots of laughs.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
44. I decorate but no one ever makes the time to see it.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 05:16 PM
Dec 2022

Mr Lake knows I do it for us. Not them. But they are all welcome.

Edit: sounds fun actually. 🕊️

Scrivener7

(59,183 posts)
45. I have three neighbors who don't decorate. Each of them goes to
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 05:29 PM
Dec 2022

relatives for Christmas and they don't want to decorate if they won't be around.

But I like a tree. So we've started a tradition where I get a tree and have them over in mid-December. We decorate the tree together, drink lots of mulled wine, then have a kick-ass meal and exchange very small gifts.

It's become one of our favorite Christmas things. For me it gets the season started on the best note.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
46. "Decorate the tree together!!!???" 😲😱
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 05:36 PM
Dec 2022

No way for me. I have no duplicate ornaments. Everyone of them has a memory. They go exactly where I want them.

Treezilla!!!! 🎄.


PS. Outside is Mr Lakes domain. He’d take any help one gives. Heck. He’d hand the job over to any interested party.

nightwing1240

(1,996 posts)
20. I do not like the commercialization of the holiday
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 09:54 AM
Dec 2022

Growing up and then raising our own family (my wife and I) we did our best to make the day and season about family and loving each other at a special time of year. Love is special always of course. The world certainly needs it more than ever these days.

BTW, whatever happened to making a child smile rather than making a fast buck?

Marthe48

(22,959 posts)
24. Good points
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 10:12 AM
Dec 2022

My personal solution is to observe my own schedule, and ignore the hype. As I get older, I have to start my Christmas prep earlier, but other than that, I keep the holidays, especially Christmas, the way I want.

IbogaProject

(5,763 posts)
25. Christmas is a Twelve Day Feast
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 10:12 AM
Dec 2022

I believe it's a 12 day feast that starts the 24th in the evening.

TygrBright

(21,340 posts)
26. This. Plus the whole "Christmas is all about the FAMILY" thing...
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 10:16 AM
Dec 2022

Well, for those who have families.

Or those who have family within reach.

Or those who participate regularly in community activities, join groups, belong to self-chosen 'family' type clusters of people.

Christmas is not a happy time for solitaries.

Nor for people whose families live far away, and your 'celebration' is in the form of a Zoom call or two.

The constant entertainment diet of heartwarming family this and that is not fun this time of year, either.

It's all part of the same over-hyping over-compensating, capitalism-driven "SPEND MONEY AND HAVE JOY" culture.

This year many of us whose holiday "celebration" involves outdoor walks, activities, going around to look at lights, watching the stars, feeding the birds, etc. aren't going to be able to enjoy even that, with the storm.

There's plenty of joy in a quiet cup of tea watching the bare branches dance against the sky, but it's not limited to December 24th/25th.

Be kind to one another every day.

wearily,
Bright

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. It has to be how you live it.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 10:16 AM
Dec 2022

Last edited Sat Dec 24, 2022, 11:17 AM - Edit history (2)

Covid's blasted a lot of personal interactions for us because we're both high risk in spite of immunizations.

But someone without that problem really could fix the problem for others in their circles by inviting people over, or whatever, after the New Year this time -- and before Christmas and after next year? Long ago I discovered (looking back) that first invitations willy-nilly started a tradition if a repeat event got it in the heads of others. Third year, people started having expectations (you're having your party, right?) even though as a kid I'd had no specific intention of creating dependablly repeat and annual getogethers. But when someone does, others come.

Btw, we have friends who are very active and sociable but who literally leave the country for the other side of the planet every holiday season. Before Thanksgiving. They buy each kid one share of some stock they have fun but aren't too serious about choosing, leave them with the parents, and that's it for the whole thing. Back in the spring.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
32. Agreed. Here are our 12 Days:
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 10:32 AM
Dec 2022

Re, Capitalism, my better half and I stopped exchanging gifts many many years ago; instead we give a substantial donation to the local foodbank.

On Christmas Eve we start the Holiday SEASON, first driving around in the evening to look at all the outdoor light displays, unwrapping our stocking stuffers (we still exchange those - candy and treats and such, nothing expensive), and listening to Christmas Rock.

Christmas we go to my nephew's for Christmas Brunch (yummy biscuits and sausage gravy!), then to my Sis-in-laws for Christmas dinner (usually Steak and Lobster).

Then sometime in the next few days we celebrate The Family & Friends Christmas party - a huge event with over 70 folks some years. Highlight is The Chinese Auction and watching all the kids run around playing all day.

Then, we will go Downtown to see the Pittsburgh Tree and Crèche, and have a nice lunch somewhere.

The...we usually celebrate on NYE going to First Night in downtown if I am not working, then get up and watch football all day on New Years.

After all this, finally we celebrate the Twelfth Day on Little Christmas (Orthodox Christmas) Jan 6th by taking down the tree at the end of the day.

NoMoreRepugs

(11,927 posts)
33. Holidays makes me think of my USMC drill instructor
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 10:33 AM
Dec 2022

Sgt. Biller and his daily reminder about being in the Corps - “Every Days a Holiday and Every Meals a Feast.”

Chipper Chat

(10,831 posts)
37. TV Christmas commercials this year are awful.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 10:41 AM
Dec 2022

Liberty Mutual has hit the bottom of the barrel with that commercial where the kid kicks the bike. Disgusting.

llashram

(6,269 posts)
38. American capitalism
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 10:41 AM
Dec 2022

the profit mongers can't help it. And yes at 74 I have seen the diminishment of the true Christmas. 12 Days of Christmas is also one of my favourites. Peace to you and yours this season.

usonian

(24,478 posts)
39. Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 11:03 AM
Dec 2022
Today... is Christmas! There will be a magic show at zero-nine-thirty! Chaplain Charlie will tell you about how the free world will conquer Communism with the aid of God and a few Marines! God has a hard-on for Marines because we kill everything we see! He plays His games, we play ours! To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep heaven packed with fresh souls! God was here before the Marine Corps! So you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to the Corps! Do you ladies understand?


What's worse than Christmas at boot camp?
Being on Christmas leave from boot camp, AND HAVING TO GO BACK.
Cheers, vets.

Skittles

(170,639 posts)
49. heh
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 06:24 PM
Dec 2022

"I want that head so sanitary and squared away that the Virgin Mary herself would be proud to go in there and take a dump."

mwooldri

(10,804 posts)
41. UK TV up until the early 1990s reinforced this somewhat.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 12:00 PM
Dec 2022

The Christmas logos and continuity wouldn't start properly til Christmas Eve and would continue in Christmas mode until after New Year's Day. Sure programme trailers and promos for Christmas would have Christmas theming but it's not Christmas until you see something like this before your TV programming...



The commercial stations at that time had in vision continuity - people introducing what's on next and later. I can assure you the guy wearing the "ugly sweater" wouldn't have wore it before Christmas Eve - at least not on screen.



Wholeheartedly agree with you - Christmas begins on Dec 25 and ends Jan 6th.

Have a Merry Merry and a Happy Happy

Ms. Toad

(38,464 posts)
48. As a general rule, I start celebrating the day after Thanksgiving (and have for my entire life)
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 05:54 PM
Dec 2022

But my tree stays up all January, sometimes into February. I'm too busy to fully enjoy it ahead of Christmas.

This year my celebration started in October - but only because I was in a Christmas Musical, and it's kind of hard to perform the first three weekends in December if we don't start practicing in October.

But, aside from play practice, my Christmas celebration starts after Thanksgiving - and I really don't Christmas encroaching on Thanksgiving, Halloween, or even the 4th of July.

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