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Mon Dec 26, 2022, 10:30 PM

If there's any scenario where you value property over lives

you're the problem, not people taking basic necessities during a natural disaster.

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Reply If there's any scenario where you value property over lives (Original post)
Ex Lurker Dec 2022 OP
Walleye Dec 2022 #1
PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2022 #2
bottomofthehill Dec 2022 #3
old as dirt Dec 2022 #5
TigressDem Dec 2022 #6
old as dirt Dec 2022 #7
bottomofthehill Dec 2022 #8
old as dirt Dec 2022 #9
TigressDem Dec 2022 #11
bottomofthehill Dec 2022 #4
ret5hd Dec 2022 #10
Kaleva Dec 2022 #12
NutmegYankee Dec 2022 #13
Dysfunctional Dec 2022 #14
roamer65 Dec 2022 #16
prodigitalson Dec 2022 #15

Response to Ex Lurker (Original post)

Mon Dec 26, 2022, 10:32 PM

1. Property can be replaced, people cannot

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Response to Ex Lurker (Original post)

Mon Dec 26, 2022, 10:45 PM

2. People who have lost everything in a fire always

talk about how grateful they are to be alive, how (even though they miss them) material possessions are not really important.

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Response to Ex Lurker (Original post)

Mon Dec 26, 2022, 11:14 PM

3. I work in a position where this is a reality

When Notre Dame was burning in Paris, my co-workers were watching people run into the burning building to save artifacts. The only reason to run into a burning building is to save a human life. People running in put themselve in the position that others may have to try to rescue them.

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Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 26, 2022, 11:26 PM

5. What kind of "artifacts"?

 

I can see somebody risking their lives to save irreplaceable artifacts that are an important part of the cultural heritage of humankind.

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Response to old as dirt (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 26, 2022, 11:45 PM

6. Notre Dame had "holy relics" and iconic art.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/2019/04/16/notre-dame-cathedral-fire-crown-thorns-saved-treasures/3482226002/

"Thanks to the @PompiersParis, the police and the municipal agents, the Crown of Thorns, the Tunic of Saint Louis and several other major works are now in a safe place,"


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/notre-dame-cathedral-fire-art-saved-destroyed.html

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Response to TigressDem (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 26, 2022, 11:49 PM

7. I can see it, then.

 

Imagine if it is your research specialty.

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Response to TigressDem (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 26, 2022, 11:49 PM

8. The risk of human life to save "things" is an easy analysis for me

I will go and save you, but not your stuff no matter how valuable. Once you decide to save your stuff, I am put into the position to save you. You may not be able to replace the Mona Lisa, but there is always another piece of artwork that can be enjoyed, maybe not the same but can be enjoyed. Try as we may, we can not replace a human life.

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Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 26, 2022, 11:51 PM

9. Some things are not just "things".

 

I'm going to die eventually one way or the other.

But some "things" will live forever, to be enjoyed and studied by future generations.

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Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 27, 2022, 09:05 AM

11. True

A lot of the art that was recovered was in a fireproof safe and gotten to after the fire was put out.

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Response to Ex Lurker (Original post)

Mon Dec 26, 2022, 11:19 PM

4. After re-reading, I think the poster is talking about looting.

I have no tolerance for looting either. You donít get to decide if you can take things that I may need.

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Response to Ex Lurker (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2022, 09:11 AM

12. One also doesn't have the right to put others at risk

Survivalists and preppers talk about werewolves. Those who plan on surviving disasters by taking , by force if need be, what they need from others.

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Response to Ex Lurker (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2022, 09:48 AM

13. What if that property is what is keeping me or loved ones alive?

Like a portable generator powering an oxygen generator.

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Response to Ex Lurker (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2022, 10:02 AM

14. Yes, in the not-too-distant future.

Climate change will change the way people behave. Lack of food, water, and livable space will cause local problems first and eventually worldwide problems.

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Response to Dysfunctional (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 27, 2022, 10:35 AM

16. +1000

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Response to Ex Lurker (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2022, 10:28 AM

15. save Hitler or my guitar from a burning building?

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