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RandySF

(80,883 posts)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:44 PM Dec 2022

Biden Doesn't Trust His Secret Service Detail

“President Joe Biden was so disturbed by the Secret Service’s handling of text messages sought by the House January 6 select committee that he stopped speaking candidly in the presence of special agents assigned to his protection detail, a new book on the Biden White House has revealed,” the Independent reports.

“In The Fight of His Life: Inside Joe Biden’s White House, author Chris Whipple writes that Mr Biden’s discomfort with the post-Trump era agency began early on in his presidency, when it became clear that “some of” the agents charged with protecting him from assassination were strong supporters of the man he defeated in the 2020 election, former president Donald Trump.”

Also interesting: Biden’s relationship with his security further strained after an agent claimed that the president’s dog had bitten him — an allegation that Biden doesn’t quite believe.




https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/28/biden-doesnt-trust-his-secret-service-detail/

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Biden Doesn't Trust His Secret Service Detail (Original Post) RandySF Dec 2022 OP
Entirely deservedly so. RockRaven Dec 2022 #1
And as you know, JFK had the same problem... peppertree Dec 2022 #31
Neither do I nor his dog, Major. BigmanPigman Dec 2022 #2
Always trust the dog. WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2022 #11
Absolutely!!!! hamsterjill Dec 2022 #20
"Always trust the dog" Botany Dec 2022 #25
Totally agree! WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2022 #26
Dogs are the best people Botany Dec 2022 #28
Can't say as I blame him... Wounded Bear Dec 2022 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #10
You should delete this DoBotherMe Dec 2022 #27
The dog might have bit him...because he sensed danger. Bluethroughu Dec 2022 #4
Still? Haven't they done anything Cha Dec 2022 #5
If true Rebl2 Dec 2022 #32
Yes, Yes, YEs! Cha Dec 2022 #35
SCOTUS, FBI, IRS, SS Sneederbunk Dec 2022 #6
It would serve the Republicans well DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #7
I'm not sure that IRS is systemically corrupted. It was clear spooky3 Dec 2022 #12
+1, Corrupt for republicans uponit7771 Dec 2022 #22
But it also serves the (r)epuglicons, the (r)ussians, the anti-democracy to cast aspersions erronis Dec 2022 #37
very wise... myohmy2 Dec 2022 #8
Trump corrupts everything... SergeStorms Dec 2022 #9
Yup Lemon Lyman Dec 2022 #13
Until he starts losing. Then watch them flee like rats on a sinking ship... NullTuples Dec 2022 #42
Biden should seek out men and women of color to be close to him on the detail Wanderlust988 Dec 2022 #14
RIGHT !?!? uponit7771 Dec 2022 #23
I know 3 African Americans in law enforcement Polybius Dec 2022 #24
Seems that Major can smell "jerk" from 100 feet Better Days Ahoy Dec 2022 #15
I think we knew this in the beginning, I'm almost certain changes were made. but am I mistaken? msfiddlestix Dec 2022 #16
That's what I thought, too electric_blue68 Dec 2022 #17
I love the "official" White House pet twitter feed LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #18
I don't get it. As head of the Executive, can't he hand pick his SS staff ? NullTuples Dec 2022 #43
Biden needs to turn Kamala loose on cleaning out the secret service. She was the Atty. Gen. BComplex Dec 2022 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #29
Too dangerous for her to investigate the people tasked with her security. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #39
Have these SS agents been bought off? hamsterjill Dec 2022 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #30
Love what you did there!!!! hamsterjill Dec 2022 #33
Law enforcement is like a swamp full of conservative extremists, no buying off needed. NullTuples Dec 2022 #47
Pence had some doubts about the SS. keithbvadu2 Dec 2022 #36
Like he wouldn't trust them with his life. erronis Dec 2022 #38
Top of the list Traildogbob Dec 2022 #40
I seem to recall Codifer Dec 2022 #41
There was also the bizarre case earlier this year markodochartaigh Dec 2022 #44
Biden is President. He should replace his security with people who he can trust. Squaredeal Dec 2022 #45
The Praetorian Guard often assassinated the imperators of Rome too. Lucky Luciano Dec 2022 #46

RockRaven

(18,631 posts)
1. Entirely deservedly so.
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:49 PM
Dec 2022


Trust is earned and lost. If they are butthurt, they should look in the mirror. If they don't care, that's a whole different problem for different parties.

BigmanPigman

(54,534 posts)
2. Neither do I nor his dog, Major.
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:49 PM
Dec 2022

The good boy bit the SS when they got into his personal area which was not where they were supposed to be. Biden knows this.

https://nypost.com/2022/12/28/biden-doesnt-trust-secret-service-said-agent-lied-about-dog-bite-book/

WinstonSmith4740

(3,412 posts)
11. Always trust the dog.
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 12:57 AM
Dec 2022

Always. They know who can be trusted and what needs to be done to protect their people.

Botany

(76,285 posts)
25. "Always trust the dog"
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 01:46 PM
Dec 2022

Yup my now late big English black lab, was aggressive towards people twice in his life and
both times it was the right thing to do. My son was 13 or 14 and walking the lab and a
creepy guy came up to talk to my son and the dog was having none of it. Dog, "That's my
boy and I will die right now protecting him."

I don't know if it is the scent "the bad person" produces or some kind of biochemical product
or just the vibe of that person but a dog knows.

When it turned out that some S.S. agents had wiped their phones clean after 1/6 and I
found out that Joe's dog had gone after some S.S. agents I started to put 2 and 2 together.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,412 posts)
26. Totally agree!
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 03:02 PM
Dec 2022

I've wondered if "bad intent" can be sensed somehow by a dog, and I think they can. I've had a similar experience as you...a kind of creepy person suddenly deciding to leave when a friend's big old German Shepherd entered the room. The dog was all happy when he came into the room, and his demeanor immediately changed when he saw this guy. Went on point, hair came up on his hackles, and he turned and faced that dude with that gutteral growl they have. Dude couldn't get out of there fast enough.

Wounded Bear

(63,785 posts)
3. Can't say as I blame him...
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:50 PM
Dec 2022

they made my "do not trust" list when they didn't put a cap in trump.

Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #3)

DoBotherMe

(2,350 posts)
27. You should delete this
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 03:24 PM
Dec 2022

Not everyone on this board is trustworthy. You may be reported to the feds.

Cha

(316,481 posts)
5. Still? Haven't they done anything
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:57 PM
Dec 2022

about changing of the SS Guard?!

There should be bite marks if true.

I read it was on the 2nd Floor and no SS should ever be up there.

Rebl2

(17,343 posts)
32. If true
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 05:29 PM
Dec 2022

that agent was bitten should have to prove it. If on 2nd floor where they weren’t supposed to be, that agent should have been fired and the second floor should have been swept for listening devices.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
7. It would serve the Republicans well
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 12:17 AM
Dec 2022

to have covert, implanted, Trumphumpers as members of the Secret Service Detail that guards the president and his family.....

I would want them screened like no one else ever before.........and by people I knew I could trust.......

spooky3

(38,230 posts)
12. I'm not sure that IRS is systemically corrupted. It was clear
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 01:07 AM
Dec 2022

that Trump put tools in top positions and they made corrupt decisions. Congress also underfunded IRS for a long time.

erronis

(22,526 posts)
37. But it also serves the (r)epuglicons, the (r)ussians, the anti-democracy to cast aspersions
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 06:18 PM
Dec 2022

on government agencies.

Anything to weaken the institutions that allow democracy to survive.

Putin, FedSoc, Thiel, Murdoch, Mercer, Koch, etc., etc.

myohmy2

(3,704 posts)
8. very wise...
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 12:36 AM
Dec 2022

"...he stopped speaking candidly in the presence of special agents..."

"...agents charged with protecting him from assassination were strong supporters of the man he defeated..."

...and along with the defeated man is the 'Big Lie'...

...it would make me nervous...

SergeStorms

(19,916 posts)
9. Trump corrupts everything...
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 12:46 AM
Dec 2022

he comes into contact with. He's a mafia Don wanting everything his way, and he'll do anything to corrupt everyone around him so they're part of it.

He's a toxic piece of criminal shit, from the soles of his feet to the top of that ridiculous shit piled on his head. Human scum, personified.

Lemon Lyman

(1,555 posts)
13. Yup
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 02:17 AM
Dec 2022

I just don't understand how almost everybody falls in line - throws away their dignity for him. I know the people who go to his rallies would do anything for him (while he wouldn't cross the street to spit on them). But so many professionals want to line up behind him? WTF? Someone like that would make me want to do be on the opposite side, regardless of what their political stripes were.

Wanderlust988

(722 posts)
14. Biden should seek out men and women of color to be close to him on the detail
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 03:31 AM
Dec 2022

They are less likely to be Trumpers. It's just the facts.

Better Days Ahoy

(706 posts)
15. Seems that Major can smell "jerk" from 100 feet
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 05:48 AM
Dec 2022

Replace the SS agent, not the dog.
Keep dog-testing till they're all weeded out.

msfiddlestix

(8,159 posts)
16. I think we knew this in the beginning, I'm almost certain changes were made. but am I mistaken?
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 07:23 AM
Dec 2022

please indicate if this is an old story, no longer relevant, just a noteworthy historical event no longer a concern.

Or indicate no changes have been made,or the degree, if any changes have been made.

tyia.



NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
43. I don't get it. As head of the Executive, can't he hand pick his SS staff ?
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 08:42 PM
Dec 2022

If not, how did Trump conveniently end up surrounded by so many loyalist agents?

BComplex

(9,738 posts)
19. Biden needs to turn Kamala loose on cleaning out the secret service. She was the Atty. Gen.
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 11:24 AM
Dec 2022

in California, and she knows how to find out where the bodies are buried. I would trust Kamala Harris to clean house in the Secret Service, CIA and FBI.

Now someone needs to clean house in the military, and the first step in that direction would be to ban Fux Nooz from playing on military bases or on United States property.

Response to BComplex (Reply #19)

Irish_Dem

(79,454 posts)
34. Too dangerous for her to investigate the people tasked with her security.
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 05:43 PM
Dec 2022

The investigator should be someone not involved with the SS in any way.

Still dangerous, I don't trust the SS.

And every crime they commit is always covered up.

Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #34)

hamsterjill

(16,923 posts)
21. Have these SS agents been bought off?
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 12:16 PM
Dec 2022

To be strong supporters of Trump, there’s got to be an incentive. Rational people don’t perpetuate lies without having an incentive.

Response to hamsterjill (Reply #21)

Traildogbob

(12,477 posts)
40. Top of the list
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 06:41 PM
Dec 2022

For Jordon et al to investigate. After they get to the bottom of the FBI criminals.

Codifer

(1,143 posts)
41. I seem to recall
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 08:00 PM
Dec 2022

that some SS agents smashed their car into a guard shack when returning drunk from what ever dumbfuckery they were into. They were trusted with guarding President Obama.

Other agents with the same responsibility (guarding President Obama) were involved in some sort of set to in a brothel somewhere in South America (I believe I recall... but brain is old so who knows).

Clean out the shitheads in the SS.... and, yes, I do believe that Kamala could do that.

It will be SO DAMNED IMPORTANT when the fascist assholes realize that if they could get gym jordan in as Speaker of The House.... he would be just two murders away from the Presidency. No sense of history or honor would stop them.



markodochartaigh

(4,925 posts)
44. There was also the bizarre case earlier this year
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 09:01 PM
Dec 2022

in which Secret Service agents received goods and services from two men pretending to be federal agents.

https://www.wired.com/story/arian-taherzadeh-haider-ali-fake-agents-case/

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