How many here thought musky founded Tesla, raise your hand? me too. apparently not...

[Javaman]

as we all know, he's a slimy piece of shit man-child, but his massive misplaced ego goes back a ways...

Tesla CEO Settles for “Founder” Title

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/tesla-ceo-settles-for-founder-title/2088887/

At issue: Whether Martin Eberhard, the company's first CEO, or Elon Musk, its current one, got to call himself "founder." Eberhard filed suit against Musk three months ago, alleging libel and slander because Musk, an early investor in Tesla, had started calling himself the company's founder.

It seemed like a silly thing to fight about, given that the company, which makes a $109,000 sports car and has promised to start developing a $60,000 sedan once it finishes a design, locates a factory, and secures parts, nearly ran out of money last fall and now appears to subsist on cash infusions from investors like Daimler and U.S. government-backed loans. (Tesla claims it achieved "corporate profitability" in July, which insiders dispute.)

In fact, Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning are the company's actual founders. But through the settlement, Musk and two other Tesla executives get to call themselves founders, too.

It's not the first time Musk has fussed about being called "founder." He started a company, X.com, which merged with another startup, Confinity. Confinity's main product was PayPal, and that became the name of the new company. In leaving PayPal, Musk went to great lengths to make sure he'd be referred to as "founder."

a little bit more at the link...

[2naSalit]

1. What he has/is...

Doesn't seem to be an acquired trait, comes with the original wrapper.

[A HERETIC I AM]

2. I think it might help your OP to mention the article you link is 13 years old.

And FWIW, I remember DU being all amazed and impressed by the Tesla Roadster back in the late oughts (as you probably do as well). This board just LOVED that car. Except for the price, of course.

[Javaman]

3. nope never liked his cars.

Not a sport car person.

[MichMan]

4. I remember the days here when criticism of Tesla was said to be anti EV & climate change denial

[hunter]

6. I've always said if anyone gave me a Tesla I'd give it away like a hot potato.

Musk set of my creep-o-meter the first time I heard of him.

I any case, electric cars and powerwalls are just another flavor of climate change denial. They won't save the world. This planet cannot support an automobile or a powerwall for every human, all eight billion of us.

[onenote]

5. He may not have been part of the original team that established the company, but

it wouldn't have survived without his infusion of cash six months after the company was first incorporated.

Not at all a fan, but Tesla wouldn't exist without Musk.

[hunter]

7. You say that like it's a bad thing...

[onenote]

10. Not sure why you think that

Wasn’t my intent to suggest it was either good or bad. Just a fact.

[hunter]

12. It's that "but..."

... and probably my own reactivity against those who believe electric cars will save the world.

The people with the smallest environmental footprints generally live in cities and don't own cars. We need to restructure our cities to make car-free living an attractive and affordable lifestyle.

What powers cars isn't nearly so important as reducing the total number of cars on the road.

[Javaman]

8. define survive LOL nt

[onenote]

9. Made it from test one to year two

[Javaman]

13. he giving them money doesn't make him a founder or a "genius" or an "innovator"

he just used the money from his family fortune to move the ball forward.

if say someone else did this, would he or she been equally as praised?

probably not.

musky is a shameless narcissistic self promoter (powered by a spin machine) who takes credit from the people who rightly deserve it and call it his own. Moreover, not only does he call it his own, he uses that same spin machine to make people believe he also created/invented it.

[EX500rider]

14. I imagine he used the money he got for his share of selling Paypal. nt

[Javaman]

18. which he did the same thing. he didn't create PayPal either.

he also used his families month to buy himself a spot as "founder".

he buys his way into everything. he never once created a thing.

[EX500rider]

19. Was not SpaceX his idea? Nt

[Javaman]

20. So that's one in a row, but given muskys

track record, it’s just a matter of time that it will come out that he bought that too.

At the end of the day, he’s just another piece of shit billionaire who didn’t make anything of himself other than exploiting his families money for his own benefit and did nothing to help anyone else.

Greed is a form of psychosis. A psychosis that turns the person into a sociopaths.

He’s nothing more than a glib self serving parasite on society.

[EX500rider]

21. Except SpaceX was his idea

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX

And I consider it a far more impressive accomplishment then what any other billionaires doing.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

11. I was aware that Musk was not the founder of Tesla

[Genki Hikari]

15. I didn't know one way or another

And I didn't care, either.

Thought he was creepy and didn't get the adulation.

[uncle ray]

16. "start developing a $60,000 sedan"

seems i recall this asshole promising a $35000 sedan someday when they were making $60k sedans.

[ProfessorGAC]

17. They Did Achieve It

The OP article is quite old. Obviously 10 years old or more. The under 60k sedan cam out some time in 2012.