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Ohio Joe

(21,898 posts)
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 10:04 PM Jan 2023

There is a maga coup in progress... I'm not really bothered by it...

So… We have a funny situation going on. There is a group of solid magas that are bent on preventing old Kevin from becoming speaker but… They have not said who they do want to be speaker… Weird huh? Add to that, tfg has openly said he wants McCarthy as speaker but these ‘maga loyalists’ continue to defy him… Weird huh?

They don’t seem to have a leader… They don’t seem to have an alternative speaker… They claim their demands are not being but… They have not actually put forth any demands… It’s GQP civil war going on and I’ll be entertained by them eating each other.

I expect in the coming day or so we’ll see who is attempting this coup… Should be both interesting and amusing.

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There is a maga coup in progress... I'm not really bothered by it... (Original Post) Ohio Joe Jan 2023 OP
They are very unorganized sellitman Jan 2023 #1
I hope you mean Democratic Manchurian candidates. Lunabell Jan 2023 #12
sellitman is paraphrasing Will Rogers griffi94 Jan 2023 #21
I believe that was a reference to the old bit... SeattleVet Jan 2023 #22
not weird. their intellectual and moral leader croaked on lung cancer after denying smoking certainot Jan 2023 #26
DEMOCRATS IN DISARRAY!! DEMOCRATS IN DISARRY!! AZ8theist Jan 2023 #35
Chaos for the sake of chaos ThoughtCriminal Jan 2023 #2
I don't think they're trying to prove anything griffi94 Jan 2023 #23
K&R UTUSN Jan 2023 #3
I think it's obvious who the MAGAs want for speaker nuxvomica Jan 2023 #4
Or maybe Sinema? Shipwack Jan 2023 #29
I certainly hope not. ShazzieB Jan 2023 #36
Sinema is a Senator. 2naSalit Jan 2023 #40
DOH! I am so ashamed. Thanks for the correction. nt Shipwack Jan 2023 #42
Anyone can be Speaker. No requirement that they be a House member. nt Tommymac Jan 2023 #43
Of course... 2naSalit Jan 2023 #46
None flew over the cuckoo's nest. TheBlackAdder Jan 2023 #5
hah! well done.... bahboo Jan 2023 #11
Oh well more popcorn republianmushroom Jan 2023 #6
They want to put DT in the spot. Boxerfan Jan 2023 #7
he would never accept. he wouldn't be able to fake work as speaker mucifer Jan 2023 #25
He'd actually have to show up for work. SergeStorms Jan 2023 #37
Is MTG hoping to get the spot? Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #8
I thought he sweet-talked her and made promises. Ilsa Jan 2023 #9
You know Marge. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #10
I thought she was fully backing McCarthy Marius25 Jan 2023 #19
I think MTG supports McCarthy. griffi94 Jan 2023 #24
Yes those are the reports. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #41
That's what I've been wondering, Irish_Dem. I think she really wants to be speaker, BComplex Jan 2023 #44
I agree she is very very ambitious and quite aggressive. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #45
More proof that conservatives don't know how to lead, govern or manage money BOSSHOG Jan 2023 #13
LOL Skittles Jan 2023 #14
If it's TFG expect a fustercluck with Roberts Rules Captain Zero Jan 2023 #15
I think they'll let Kevin have it for a while William Seger Jan 2023 #16
Ding, ding ding! We have a winner! nt Shipwack Jan 2023 #30
Rats fighting! yeah baby! LymphocyteLover Jan 2023 #17
I thought they want Scalise or Jordan? Marius25 Jan 2023 #18
If Kevin doesn't become Speaker, I'll have to change my tagline COL Mustard Jan 2023 #20
Republicans in Ratchet mode ‼️ live love laugh Jan 2023 #27
I'm sorry to say I didn't know that The House can't do anything until they get a Speaker... electric_blue68 Jan 2023 #28
So... ColinC posted this earlier... Ohio Joe Jan 2023 #31
I'll take a look. electric_blue68 Jan 2023 #32
Cool on That, then I guess I guess I'll have recheck Lawrence's show or do some googling. electric_blue68 Jan 2023 #33
Here's what I got from Govinfo.gov Re: If there's No Speaker... electric_blue68 Jan 2023 #38
How about Boebert, Greene, or Santos? IronLionZion Jan 2023 #34
Speaker pro tempore!! GenThePerservering Jan 2023 #39
 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
12. I hope you mean Democratic Manchurian candidates.
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 11:19 PM
Jan 2023

Surely you aren't anything against the Democrats.

SeattleVet

(5,903 posts)
22. I believe that was a reference to the old bit...
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 11:45 PM
Jan 2023

"Are you a member of an organized political party?"

"No...I'm a Democrat!"

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
26. not weird. their intellectual and moral leader croaked on lung cancer after denying smoking
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 12:04 AM
Jan 2023

causes cancer for the better part of 30 years.

limbaugh is dead and putin's major influence in the US is also. the limbaugh/putin/trump triangle is over and so is the limbaugh GOP. unfortunately democrats have no fucking clue. as far as i know they have never even polled for the single biggest common denominator in trumpism - rw radio

all dems have to do is stop the idiotic and astoundingly stupid mistake of ignoring talk radio, the only unique advantage republicans have. Limbaugh's death is why the GOP is so fucked up now and media has no clue.

AZ8theist

(7,377 posts)
35. DEMOCRATS IN DISARRAY!! DEMOCRATS IN DISARRY!!
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 12:37 AM
Jan 2023

Yup, good times.

I for one just bought some popcorn and will GLEEFULLY watch the Repukes make fools out of themselves while tearing themselves to shreads.

Any chance the "democrats in disarray" media will NOW REPORT on the truth of the Reich Wing??

No? More "Whataboutism"? Breathlessly reporting on Hunter Bidens laptop??

About time the beltway "pundits" start reporting the truth. The Fascist SCUM REPUKES are hell-bent on destroying this country. And none of them can agree how or who should do it....

ThoughtCriminal

(14,721 posts)
2. Chaos for the sake of chaos
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 10:22 PM
Jan 2023

What do they hope to prove?

That they can make the GOP leadership dance to whatever obnoxious tune they are humming.

griffi94

(3,830 posts)
23. I don't think they're trying to prove anything
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 11:48 PM
Jan 2023

The coup seems to be coming from the "reality television" wing of their caucus.
The plan is most likely to get a lot of views on social media and RW media.
Then grift the rubes

nuxvomica

(14,092 posts)
4. I think it's obvious who the MAGAs want for speaker
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 10:28 PM
Jan 2023

They can vote for anyone, not necessarily a member. The question is whether they'll actually try. If the TFG bid fails, in steps his puppet Stefanik as the "compromise" candidate.

Shipwack

(3,065 posts)
29. Or maybe Sinema?
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 12:08 AM
Jan 2023

I Don’t really think so… just throwing out the idea. The hard-right MAGAs would never go for it.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
36. I certainly hope not.
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 12:39 AM
Jan 2023

She wold suck at it.

Seriously, being Speaker is all about influencing other people and being a leader. Sinema's not interested in anyone's opinion but her own. She's a one woman show, not a leader of others.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
46. Of course...
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 05:40 PM
Jan 2023

But she was never under consideration in the first place and the poster was thinking she was in the House.

Indeed, anyone can become Speaker, which is kind of scary.

Boxerfan

(2,571 posts)
7. They want to put DT in the spot.
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 10:57 PM
Jan 2023

That was one of their trick plays.


Who knows if he'd accept.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
37. He'd actually have to show up for work.
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 12:47 AM
Jan 2023

He's never had a job like that before. He couldn't go play golf at will.

Nope, he wants to be president. I'd say "again", but he didn't do anything but shoot his mouth off the first time. Well, that, and suck up to the world's fascist dictators.

Ilsa

(64,371 posts)
9. I thought he sweet-talked her and made promises.
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 11:03 PM
Jan 2023

Did she change her mind over last few days.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
10. You know Marge.
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 11:07 PM
Jan 2023

Anything is possible.
Even double crossing people.

I don't know anything, just wondering given how ambitious she is.

I think she has been angling to be Trump's running mate.
But she would take the Speaker spot in a heartbeat.

BComplex

(9,914 posts)
44. That's what I've been wondering, Irish_Dem. I think she really wants to be speaker,
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 02:54 PM
Jan 2023

but doesn't want to come out and throw her own hat into the ring.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
45. I agree she is very very ambitious and quite aggressive.
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 03:18 PM
Jan 2023

I think she has wants to be Trump's VP but he has been cagy about it with her.
So maybe she thinks the speaker position is her best shoot.

She thinks she is presidential material.

BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
13. More proof that conservatives don't know how to lead, govern or manage money
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 11:20 PM
Jan 2023

It might take a month of the house clown car rolling along but the billionaires will soon be whining about their investment. We won’t get the scoop until the 4th of July.

Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
15. If it's TFG expect a fustercluck with Roberts Rules
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 11:38 PM
Jan 2023

He's not going to listen to a parliamentarian.

William Seger

(12,443 posts)
16. I think they'll let Kevin have it for a while
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 11:38 PM
Jan 2023

... after getting firm control of his short hairs and yanking 'em for all they're worth... then dump him.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
18. I thought they want Scalise or Jordan?
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 11:39 PM
Jan 2023

I feel like eventually they'll give in, because if this goes on too long, some of the "moderates" may join with Dems to pick a speaker.

COL Mustard

(8,222 posts)
20. If Kevin doesn't become Speaker, I'll have to change my tagline
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 11:43 PM
Jan 2023

To whatever tool they elect tomorrow, assuming they can actually elect someone tomorrow. With this crew, you never know.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
28. I'm sorry to say I didn't know that The House can't do anything until they get a Speaker...
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 12:07 AM
Jan 2023

and we will need the House to pass basic spending bills etc.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
38. Here's what I got from Govinfo.gov Re: If there's No Speaker...
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 12:52 AM
Jan 2023

"Vacancy

The Office of Speaker may be declared vacant by resolution, which
may be offered as a matter of privilege. Manual Sec. 315; 6 Cannon
Sec. 35. Under rule I clause 8(b)(3), adopted in the 108th Congress,
the Speaker is required to deliver to the Clerk a list of Members in
the order in which each shall act as Speaker pro tempore in the case
of a vacancy in the Office of Speaker. The Member acting as Speaker
pro tempore under this provision may exercise such authorities of the
Office of Speaker as may be necessary and appropriate pending the
election of a Speaker or Speaker pro tempore. A vacancy in the Office
may exist by reason of the physical inability of the Speaker to
discharge the duties of the Office."

GenThePerservering

(3,379 posts)
39. Speaker pro tempore!!
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 01:03 AM
Jan 2023


McCarthy agreed to a quorum of 5 reps for a vote of no-confidence. I'm thinking it's going to be an umptydimension version of musical chairs.
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