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catbyte

(39,152 posts)
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 05:33 PM Jan 2023

'We only need six to come over': Jim Clyburn thinks Dems could strike deal with GOP moderates on new

Brad Reed
January 03, 2023

The House Republican caucus is still in chaos after leader Kevin McCarthy lost two consecutive votes to become House Speaker -- but Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-SC) is floating an option for GOP lawmakers who want a way out.

In an interview with Raw Story, the South Carolina Democrat argued that it wouldn't be to hard to find enough Republicans to cross over and find a consensus House Speaker with Democrats.

"I think there are enough on the other side, if we stay together as we are, we only need six of them to come over," he explained.

Clyburn then pointed to the number of Republicans who won in Biden-voting districts in 2022 as potential targets to build a consensus coalition around a new House Speaker candidate.

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'We only need six to come over': Jim Clyburn thinks Dems could strike deal with GOP moderates on new (Original Post) catbyte Jan 2023 OP
Great. Let's have Jeffries. Jirel Jan 2023 #1
That would be cool. nycbos Jan 2023 #2
I was thinking about that sort of deal, too, but couldn't get past one major drawback: GopherGal Jan 2023 #8
The Republicans who won in Biden districts don't represent MAGA voters. nycbos Jan 2023 #12
Yes hard to trust any agreement with a GOPer. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #20
TY & Rep Clyburn! Cha Jan 2023 #3
That would be amazing. Freethinker65 Jan 2023 #4
"I believe the Speaker doesn't need to be a member of congress." Is this true??????? nt LAS14 Jan 2023 #7
Pretty sure some had floated having Trump be speaker early on when GOP expected a landslide Freethinker65 Jan 2023 #10
Yeah you can be a random person off the street. joshcryer Jan 2023 #15
The Constitution doesn't require it, nor do House Rules, I believe... Wounded Bear Jan 2023 #17
There's nothing anywhere that states the Speaker need be an elected member of the House. Volaris Jan 2023 #21
Is this called poking the hornet's nest or is it stirring the bucket of shit? Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #5
Any hints about who such a consensus person might be? nt LAS14 Jan 2023 #6
Do they have someone in mind? iemanja Jan 2023 #9
Now how many votes did Nancy P lose when she sent out Jackie Speier, Steny Hoyer, or Botany Jan 2023 #11
Lots here have said that's impossible. But Clyburn knows whereof he speaks. Scrivener7 Jan 2023 #13
Interesting. Clyburn is a wise old fox -- and he can count, unlike Kevin McC. nt Hekate Jan 2023 #14
TFG woul1d instantly announce 3rd party Rosco T. Jan 2023 #16
Santos seems pliable. bluedigger Jan 2023 #18
LOL! Brilliant! Merely FLOATING This Idea is LETHAL to the GOP! Beetwasher. Jan 2023 #19
God loves a dreamer Mr. Sparkle Jan 2023 #22

nycbos

(6,715 posts)
2. That would be cool.
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 05:37 PM
Jan 2023

Maybe be can govern with them with some old school horse trading. Like closing tax breaks for the wealthy like the carried interest loophole in exchange for a portion of the revenue going toward deficit reduction? Increase the minimum wage for a small business tax cut?

GopherGal

(2,905 posts)
8. I was thinking about that sort of deal, too, but couldn't get past one major drawback:
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 05:40 PM
Jan 2023

Could you trust the Repukes to keep any kind of bargain?

nycbos

(6,715 posts)
12. The Republicans who won in Biden districts don't represent MAGA voters.
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 05:48 PM
Jan 2023

Maybe they can sell me a idea of actually governing to their constituents.

Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
4. That would be amazing.
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 05:39 PM
Jan 2023

Kinzinger or Meijer that lost/gave up their seats could be seen as viable alternatives while still technically conservatives. I believe the Speaker doesn't need to be a member of congress.

The GOP did win more seats (yeah, I know it was by gerrymandering, but still), so I wouldn't think a true Democrat wouldn't have a chance.

Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
10. Pretty sure some had floated having Trump be speaker early on when GOP expected a landslide
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 05:43 PM
Jan 2023

At the time, it was said there was nothing against them making Trump speaker.

Wounded Bear

(64,324 posts)
17. The Constitution doesn't require it, nor do House Rules, I believe...
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 06:13 PM
Jan 2023

It's never been done, but it could happen. Far fetched, though.

Volaris

(11,704 posts)
21. There's nothing anywhere that states the Speaker need be an elected member of the House.
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 06:40 PM
Jan 2023

They can elect William Shatner if they want.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
5. Is this called poking the hornet's nest or is it stirring the bucket of shit?
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 05:39 PM
Jan 2023

Love Rep. Clyburn.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
11. Now how many votes did Nancy P lose when she sent out Jackie Speier, Steny Hoyer, or
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 05:46 PM
Jan 2023

.... Jim Clyburn to "whip the votes?"



*****From wiki.

A whip is an official of a political party whose task is to ensure party discipline in a legislature. This means ensuring that members of the party vote according to the party platform, rather than according to their own individual ideology or the will of their donors or constituents. Whips are the party's "enforcers". They try to ensure that their fellow political party legislators attend voting sessions and vote according to their party's official policy. Members who vote against party policy may "lose the whip", being effectively expelled from the party.

The term is taken from the "whipper-in" during a hunt, who tries to prevent hounds from wandering away from a hunting pack.

Additionally, the term "whip" may mean the voting instructions issued to legislators,[1] or the status of a certain legislator in their party's parliamentary grouping.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
13. Lots here have said that's impossible. But Clyburn knows whereof he speaks.
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 05:53 PM
Jan 2023

Go, Jim! Fill those rooms with smoke!

Rosco T.

(6,496 posts)
16. TFG woul1d instantly announce 3rd party
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 06:11 PM
Jan 2023

150 house members would renounce the GOP. Dems take over majority of House. GPP in shambles.

Sounds good to me

Beetwasher.

(3,178 posts)
19. LOL! Brilliant! Merely FLOATING This Idea is LETHAL to the GOP!
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 06:22 PM
Jan 2023

If it actually happens, it will be the end for the GOP as we know it! Either way, this is the right move, the GOP is fucked! LOL!

Mr. Sparkle

(3,710 posts)
22. God loves a dreamer
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 09:55 AM
Jan 2023

I don't think Jim realizes how polarized the right wing fundamentalists are, their base and propaganda media would make their life hell for the next 2 years and run them out of town.

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