OK...I may have some "news" here....

[PCIntern]

By way of introduction here, one of my patients whom I consider a friend was in my office today and incidentally, he is known nationally as one of the finest criminal defense attorneys in the country. The list of his clients both domestically and internationally….well, I’ll tell you that it made my jaw drop when we met and he mentioned a number of these. He is a political progressive and really really incisive but he is also , of necessity, a realist.

So as I was dismissing him from “the chair”, I asked him, “So what do you think of Trump being indicted?”

He began by saying that his sources in Atlanta tell him that it’s going to happen: that they’ve assembled what is considered to be an airtight case against Trump.

Now it got interesting: he then said that it would be extremely difficult to prove the insurrection case due to interpretations of language BUT he then said that the classified documents case is also solid. He then said that the indictments are coming soon. I didn’t press him as to what “soon” means but it is important to remember that he has dealt with so many federal cases that he’s basically professional buddies with these US Attorneys. He has never blown smoke or BS’d me in all the decades I’ve known him. He rightly predicted that a certain mob trial in Philly would end with acquittal of the defendants even though they had been tried and convicted in the Press, and he was correct as well in a number of trials he participated in wherein the defendant, his client, was found guilty.

And, of course, I understand that nobody, but nobody can guarantee any prediction, but I thought I would just pass this along as well-founded information. Oh, and those of you who know me here know that I don’t make this stuff up…

[republianmushroom]

1. 23 months and counting

[Wednesdays]

5. But not so long with the documents case.

[republianmushroom]

9. It would be nice to know how long the gov't knew the doc's. were missing

and where they could be found ? Wouldn't it ?

[Justice matters.]

20. If they're degrading in a toilet sewer or up in fumes in a fireplace...

they will never be found.

My question is, as they were printed on paper, from which government printer were they printed? Next question is, which computer drove that printer? Last question is, where is/are the electronic file(s) the missing document(s) got printed out of the printer(s)? Was it/were they simply deleted after the printout?

I just don't get the difficulty to 'know' which file(s) are still missing. And yes, lock the robber up GDI!!

[republianmushroom]

24. it is strange

[Hekate]

36. Does this displease you? What are your expectations?

[republianmushroom]

39. No, it displeases others for me to post about it though.

How about you does not knowing how long the gov't knew but didn't do something bother you ?

[Hekate]

41. Tsk

[ShazzieB]

52. It's not something I think about, personally.

It's not like knowing the answer to that would change anything. I'm concerned with what happens going forward, not what the government might have known in the past or when they might have known it. I'm interested in what happens from here on out, not whether the government might have known something that they took a long time to act on. (Especially since IF they did do that, there could be a good reason that I'm not privy to.)

What I want is for someone to bring on the indictments. If that doesn't start happening sometime in the next few months, I'm sure my patience wil eventually start wearing thin. So far it's not.

[republianmushroom]

86. mine have.

[Fiendish Thingy]

18. We get it...

You can count

[republianmushroom]

21. the question is how high will my counting have to go ?

[Lucinda]

28. As high as necessary - until they are done

❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[republianmushroom]

33. so it shall be then

[Fiendish Thingy]

42. Gee, for me the question is...

Why do you feel the need to pepper every Trump/DOJ thread with your monthly count?

Haven’t you got anything more substantive to add to the conversation?

[asiliveandbreathe]

46. Be surprised you get more of a response other than "like", from this poster...

tfg/monthly count..good question..why. indeed..

[republianmushroom]

85. And another question why not. Why does the statement 0f a count bother you.?

[stopdiggin]

53. beginning to look a lot like one of those 'T' things -(nt)-

[NBachers]

65. That's been my speculation for awhile now.

[wnylib]

91. It does, doesn't it?

[PJMcK]

72. Thank you

Your post inspired me to block that poster as they add nothing but snark to any discussion.

Enjoy your day, FT.

[MontanaMama]

51. +1

n/t

[Warpy]

58. Honestly? That is lightning fast.

Some failed dictators still manage to die in bed since going after a former head of state, even a rotten dictator, is not something anyone particularly wants to do. They'd rather send them into exile--out of sight, out of power, out of mind.

TFG has done so much in so many jurisdictions that things are happening very quickly.

And now, with the release of his tax forms, it's beginning to look if everyone else has an airtight case fail, the IRS will get him.

I've also never read of a successful attempt to stall the IRS, either.

[Ohio Joe]

2. Good

I agree that TFG’s biggest threat is the document case and I don’t think it’ll be long before he is indicted on it.

[SheltieLover]

3. Sc Smith is said to be back in the States... let the games begin!

I would think wire fraud would be easy to prove as well, but I'm not an attorney.

DOJ could probably draw straws among myriad cases to prosecute.

Ty, PC!

[barbtries]

4. did you get a "when"?!

can't wait much longer been on the edge of my seat so long i'm about to fall off

[PCIntern]

7. As I said, I didn't press him as to what "soon" meant.

[barbtries]

10. you're a good guy

i would have been jumping up and down and yelling how soon how soon!!
thank you for sharing this PCIntern I feel better for it. I really do.

[PCIntern]

26. If he knew he would have told me.

[fierywoman]

6. Bless you, my dear, for passing along this info.

[Sogo]

8. Thanks!!

[FakeNoose]

11. How often do you talk to this person? I hope we get updates when you do

This news is AWESOME, by the way! Thanks for sharing this.

[3Hotdogs]

62. Yeah. Tell him you made a mistake on his tooth and you need him back in the chair.

[phoenix75]

12. Interesting conversation indeed ...

Thanks for sharing 👍

[tavernier]

13. I'll vouch for you. I know you don't make stuff up.

Well, there was that one time that you claimed to be DB Cooper and enjoyed jumping out of that plane…

Seriously, thanks for sharing. I could read the excitement “in your voice” and it got me excited a bit as well. Hope it pans out.

[Emile]

14. K&R

[malaise]

15. Yes Yes. Yes!

Rec

[Wild blueberry]

16. May it be so

Thank you.

[BOSSHOG]

17. Off topic PC but I have to share

For Christmas my wife got me a replica of Mike Schmidt’s 1980 World Series Championship Ring. Quite an impressive replica from Cherry Hill NJ. I was a 20 something all over again.

[PCIntern]

22. Great stuff!

We were most privileged to witness the greatest third baseman in baseball history.

[joemacdawson]

40. Ugh says the old Expos fan

If you watch the replay of Schmidt’s home run on the last weekend to clinch the division, it flies over my high school’s banner.

[BOSSHOG]

43. You went to a great High School Joe

[joemacdawson]

60. Haha. Expos never knew "how to win" until the 94 strike.

[Fiendish Thingy]

19. Thanks for posting this

This is independent corroboration of what emptywheel has been saying for some time now.

[Tree Lady]

23. That's what my friend said in November

Her son works for Justice dept as a lawyer working on the documents case.

Like your friend she couldn't give out any details but said her son gave her the impression indictments coming. I got the impression things move slower there because she said the Justice dept is a family place, they don't work overtime and gave him leave when his wife had baby this last year. They go slowly but they are working hard to get facts in order.

[jaxexpat]

77. Pardon me, respectfully, but "no overtime" and "working hard" don't occupy the same universe.

They do however simultaneously occupy the universe called "Don't See Any Urgency".

I understand there's a great yawning boredom with keeping track of the duration of this stuff. Some must have a more adaptable "patience gene" than others. I had a great uncle who could outpatient anybody. He was a very deliberating man. He died answering a question asked him while he was still in good health. My dad, on the other hand, was not particularly patient. He especially disliked waiting for wrongheaded discussion to outlive its time before an obviously correct view was adapted.

I get that it takes both to make a village but when haste is required, only one matters. It looks like to me the DOJ is like a village where the slowest SOB's on the taxpayers' dime get their fully allotted time to exercise their opinions and deliberations on just how critical the current houses afire and spreading question actually is before the first fire-suppressant is even allowed discharge.

[Lucinda]

25. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[Trumpdumper]

27. Dubious

I'm certain that the U.S. attorneys working on this case are not talking to anybody. There just is no way they'd spill anything to anyone. The intel detailed above would have had to have come from someone who testified to the grand jury and was convinced by the nature of the questions that the DOJ has got the goods. Fine. But, still, no one outside the prosecution knows whether the federal indictment is coming "soon." Total speculation.

[PCIntern]

30. Common misconception

Believe me…there are people who know stuff.

I have known a number of high level Dem fundraisers and stuff they’ve told me over the years no one would think would be bandied about. But it is.

[Trumpdumper]

32. Not the same

High-level Dem fundraisers are not obliged to keep secrets. DOJ attorneys most certainly are.

[PCIntern]

75. Ok

[JoeOtterbein]

44. +1 nt

[NorCalBlue]

74. Agreed.

And even if it is correct, and it very well may be, if this was my Dentist I would have my files transferred so fast that his/her head would spin.

[grantcart]

29. That tracks with my non professional take

I also will predict that the Georgia pled out with minor punishment, home confinement/probation. It will be his first conviction for a non violent offense.

On the other hand he could become a target for a whole lot of civil suits.

Sedition could be easier than insurrection.

[Pepsidog]

89. My take as well. One day we wake up to find that TFG took a plea and was sentenced before we hear

about it. Maybe a deferred disposition or some fine and other items like exclusion from holding office.

[usonian]

31. The classified documents case is so solid ...

that anyone BUT that POS would have been immediately slapped in irons and held without bail.
I was in the service and worked in aerospace. That info is sacred.
ONE document gets lost and all hell breaks loose.

You don't have to admit using the truth serum.

[keithbvadu2]

34. You/we can't get everything but getting something solid can be a significant accomplishment.

You/we can't get everything but getting something solid can be a significant accomplishment.

Al Capone went away for tax evasion instead of crimes like murder.

[Joinfortmill]

35. Thank you!

[Hekate]

37. Thank you and your friend very much

[Martin68]

38. Thanks for sharing the encouraging anecdote.

[Mira]

45. Because it is you - and I trust you - I share my secret prayer

For the last month or so, starting about when I looked at the image of Jack Smith repeatedly and imagined I was TFG looking at it with terror in his heart, I daily said a prayer to the God of my understanding to let it happen on January 6.
We're damn close, and I don't give up easily.
Thank you for letting us in on what you learned.

[phoenix75]

49. That would be a dream come true!

Oh please, let it be. 🙏

[Laura PourMeADrink]

47. So no confidentiality?

[PCIntern]

70. I am able to present cases of a clinical or behavioral nature

As long as the individual is shielded from identification. Of course, this has nothing to do with anything clinical, and we were speaking as friends/acquaintances. He did not make any statement as to whether I needed to maintain his confidentiality, which I have in the past for quite a number of people when requested and they have imparted information of a business, political, or personal nature.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

78. That's interesting, thanks for explanation. Would love your

opinion on something - Covid. Have you ever thought about that, the way people ( i.e. trump et al) hid behind confidentiality and HIPAA when they proclaimed they had Covid?

Perhaps I'm leery about their honesty, but it seemed way too easy to just say you had Covid. And too easy to not just show a test result. There was never any confidential info on a covid test result.

[PCIntern]

80. Well,

The patient is free to say anything at all about themselves and their medical history. I can tell you that I have controlled high blood pressure but my doc can’t without my permission.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

81. Yes. Just think it was and is a phenomenon that occured

( people not showing result) that some took advantage of. Wonder why it never seemed to become a practice - to just show result. People said they had it.. so no NEW info there.

Don't mean to belabor the point. And, sorry - know off topic from your OP. Still only 50% convinced trump actually had it . He's such a snake it behooved him to show - "See I got it, it's no big deal" .. along with "See how strong I am.". And what better place than separate presidential suite at WR to hide out? Where staff is military and take orders from CiC. Will refrain from yapping about Melania conveniently getting it less than 48 hrs after she used the F word and Christmas in the same sentence

[PCIntern]

82. Entirely possible...

I put nothing past these people.

[crickets]

48. Reassuring, and here's hoping your friend is right. nt

[Better Days Ahoy]

50. And I thought your last post was enlightening!

This one was entertaining and uplifting.
Thank you so much for sharing.

[soldierant]

54. The information is perfectly in line with what the analysts are saying -

Glenn Kirschner, Joyce Vance, Harry Litman, just to name a few. Harry in particular on the scheduling for DOJ (Documents first, maybe by spring, bot the insurrection is harder.)Others are also saying essentially the same.

But they aren't talking about Georgia much, if at all. So that information is new.

[WinstonSmith4740]

55. Be still my heart!

No reason whatsoever to doubt your friend's word, so ready to celebrate!

[gab13by13]

56. So once again I was right, DOJ does leak.

[Genki Hikari]

79. You do realize that there are a bunch of sources

This person could have who aren't DOJ.

People who appear before grand juries can talk about their impressions of the testimony they had to give. Their attorneys can talk about it as well, if the client allows.

There are literally hundreds or even thousands of people associated with cases who gossip like a sieve--court employees, administrative staff of law firms, and so on. Legal investigators for defense attorneys and intrepid reporters know to frequent the favorite off-duty hangouts of those working indirectly on cases, to eavesdrop on their shop talk over lunch or drinks for any interesting nuggets they might inadvertently reveal. And they all do the shop talk thing.

I haven't known the DOJ people to leak, but oh boy do I know about the adjunct staff leaking. I dated a defense attorney and he was one of those who had a private investigator on his staff who did the eavesdrop thing on prosecution staff, to get a heads up on an important case.

I could also tell you some hair-raising stories about some of the things they do during jury voir dire to eliminate witnesses. Let's just say that anyone sitting in the viewing galleries could be the person analyzing your body language, speech patterns and other profiling criteria to signal an attorney yea or nay on accepting you as a juror.

[A HERETIC I AM]

57. Gerry Spence, perhaps?

Just a shot in the dark.

[PCIntern]

66. Interesting...

You’re not far off in a way.

[spanone]

59. ...K&R...

[electric_blue68]

61. Ty for a possible heads up. And Happy New Year!

[ecstatic]

63. Thank you. This news made me smile

especially because it might be my town that sends him to the slammer. Love it! #LockHimUp

[H2O Man]

64. Recommended.

I agree with your friend.

[fightforfreedom]

67. Your friend said the insurrection case would be difficult to prove.

Does that include obstructing congress in an official act. It seems to me that is a smoking gun charge. Easy to prove.

Does that include the fake electors investigation. Defrauding the government. Both of these charges are enough to put Trump and the traitors away for a long time.

[triron]

87. My question is : WTF is it difficult?

Damn, we witnessed it live on TV

[wnylib]

92. The difficulty is in having concrete evidence

of a direct connection between TFG and the actions of the insurrectionists. Yes, we saw what they did to the Capitol. We saw and heard TFG give a speech to the crowd. But during his speech, there were already insurrectionists at the Capitol carrying out violent actions to get on the premises. There is no direct statement of TFG telling them to break into the building in order to stop the procedure.

We know that he riled up the crowd with his speech. But the speech gave no specific orders to violently attack the building and seek out specific members of Congress.

It's all circumstantial. Circumstantial cases are harder to win.

[Ilsa]

68. Thank you. Putting 🥂 in the icebox to chill.

I've always had a hunch our rising star In Fulton County Georgia, Fani Willis, would get the job done.

[bdamomma]

69. Nice

to know you have friends like that who share insight on the case.

[Maeve]

71. I sincerely hope he's right

Thanks for the ray of hope!

[Niagara]

73. This is encouraging to read.

Thank you, PCIntern!

[dixiechiken1]

76. Thank you!

I have believed for some time that, yes, indictments are coming. There's too much 'there' there. I take nothing as gospel until it actually happens, but it keeps my hope - and my belief - alive to fight another day. So thanks for sharing, PCIntern!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

83. Totally agree! GA & Stealing Govt docs!. Also

Agree that insurrection too hard to prove in court. Of Trump that is. They actually said this when impeachment two failed. If you can't get a conviction in a political venue you'll never be able to get one in a legal one. I remember them saying no decent prosecutor would even try.

Probably why Trump arranged the cover of a rally and the cover of his squirrely base. That actually was very smart, in a devious way. Why he didn't go down to the Capitol either. But backhandedly tried to make his base think he was going down there but had no intention. No way would this weak & germophobic man go down and hang out with armed thugs.

[MiKenMi33]

88. I'm cautiously optimistic

It seems the conman has gotten away with everything from the beginnings of his business dealings until now. I was sure soo many times that he’d finally be indicted but it’s never happened. This however does give me a bit of hope. Thanks for posting.

[The Wizard]

90. Where can an impartial jury be found?