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ck4829

(35,079 posts)
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 11:42 AM Jan 2023

This could be it

The consequences of everything from gerrymandering, voter suppression, voting for the worst, "own the libs" as a policy, Qanon, to pretending that far-right ignorance and ignorance are actually ideas that have merit are coming home to roost.

We're not bailing out the Republican Party, not anymore.

No present votes, vote for Hakeem Jeffries every single time.

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This could be it (Original Post) ck4829 Jan 2023 OP
This is the Way. Tetrachloride Jan 2023 #1
I'll be surprised if they let this go on after January 13. jimfields33 Jan 2023 #2
I get the feeling the Democratic members are kind of enjoying their solidarity. Walleye Jan 2023 #3
Indeed! Wounded Bear Jan 2023 #4
there was a segment on one of the news shows NJCher Jan 2023 #37
Add... DemUnleashed Jan 2023 #5
Yes chickens coming home to roost. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #6
+1 I applaud this comment! bronxiteforever Jan 2023 #11
Thank you! Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #25
it's a hate-a-thon! NJCher Jan 2023 #38
Yes, no self awareness so they cannot see the irony and hypocrisy in their statements. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #40
Hakeem Jeffries is going to get 212 votes. gab13by13 Jan 2023 #7
At some point I'd like to see a compromise between Dems and a handful of moderate GOPers groundloop Jan 2023 #8
Could you provide a list of those moderate gqp'ers? niyad Jan 2023 #9
One is David Joyce of Ohio soldierant Jan 2023 #35
Honestly, I would not trust them to keep their word Nittersing Jan 2023 #33
Compromise with a fascist party? wnylib Jan 2023 #34
Individual members of the party are not all fascists summer_in_TX Jan 2023 #36
I hope that is not what we get: NJCher Jan 2023 #39
I don't like to see 2 years wasted, either. wnylib Jan 2023 #41
Agreed! summer_in_TX Jan 2023 #42
They deserve nothing from Dems or any decent person, really. ananda Jan 2023 #10
"That block of opposition is still holding." calimary Jan 2023 #12
Now up to 13. calimary Jan 2023 #14
Went up to 16 during the commercial break. calimary Jan 2023 #16
Now 19. calimary Jan 2023 #18
Wow! Now it's 20! calimary Jan 2023 #19
Looks like the action's on hold while a group of GOPers seems to be calimary Jan 2023 #20
By contrast, the coverage briefly switches to President Biden calimary Jan 2023 #21
Twenty. Wednesdays Jan 2023 #17
Yeah. And that last name on the "Not Kevin" list hasn't even voted yet. calimary Jan 2023 #22
Looks like this round's over. Kevin's 0 for 4 now. calimary Jan 2023 #24
And just an observation ... calimary Jan 2023 #26
Lauren Boebert now up, nominating Byron Donald, calimary Jan 2023 #27
like it republianmushroom Jan 2023 #13
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Jan 2023 #15
K&R llmart Jan 2023 #23
Republican spoiler Donald's just got a tenth vote. No. Eleven now! calimary Jan 2023 #28
Wow! Now it's up to 19 for Donalds. Ouch!!! calimary Jan 2023 #29
Nope! 198-175 Dems lead. calimary Jan 2023 #30
208-187 Dems. calimary Jan 2023 #31
Had the GOP taken the Tennis Court Oath, France would have a monarchy. Torchlight Jan 2023 #32
Yeah it's time we say we are done with their shit. Initech Jan 2023 #43

jimfields33

(15,908 posts)
2. I'll be surprised if they let this go on after January 13.
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 11:49 AM
Jan 2023

That’s the day staffers on all sides of the aisle lose their paychecks? I don’t see them allowing that.

NJCher

(35,706 posts)
37. there was a segment on one of the news shows
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 04:24 AM
Jan 2023

that addressed that. It was pretty funny, how they showed Democrats amused at the mess the republicans were making.

At one point a republican said something like "we have an agreement" and apparently a Dem sarcastically shouted, "I don't think so." And of course there was no agreement.

Anyway, point is that you are not the only one to notice this.

Oh and might I add--I am never one to miss a show of republican schadenfreude. If I was there I would be sitting around with my smug mug.

Since I am not there, my friends and I periodically text emojis of clowns as we watch the votes on television.

DemUnleashed

(633 posts)
5. Add...
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 12:25 PM
Jan 2023

Add lying, grifting, lack of integrity to that list as well!

And seeing Fox News actually criticizing this debacle instead of trying to spin it into something not bad, which they usually do, shows you just how far this really could be it!

Irish_Dem

(47,226 posts)
6. Yes chickens coming home to roost.
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 12:35 PM
Jan 2023

We can see the results of all their cheating.

Incompetent and unlikeable candidates.
Who only offer hatred, anger, ridiculous stunts.

NJCher

(35,706 posts)
38. it's a hate-a-thon!
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 04:32 AM
Jan 2023
Incompetent and unlikeable candidates.

Commentators on television, especially the ones who are right there on the floor, tell about why fellow republicans don't like Kevin McCarthy:

they don't trust him
they don't like him
he can't possibly deliver on all his promises

But anyone else they can turn to pretty much has the same qualifications.

Then, of course, there is poor Santos sitting off in his corner, playing with his cell phone. He is the poster boy for lying republicans and their behavior is so despicable and desperate that they won't talk to him but they also won't throw his ass out because they want his vote.

Creeps to the core, every one of them. I marvel at how one political party manages to suck up every bit of human detritus like a vacuum cleaner sucks up dirt.

Irish_Dem

(47,226 posts)
40. Yes, no self awareness so they cannot see the irony and hypocrisy in their statements.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 09:41 AM
Jan 2023

There do not appear to be serious issues in the food fight we are witnessing.
Just egos and power struggles over personalities.

Boebert for example, only won her last election by 500 votes.
So we can see that she hired a speech coach, make up artist and stylist
and is all over our TV screens. Acting like a pretend leader.
She probably doesn't even care who gets the speaker spot.
The limelight is what is important to her.

They don't care that Santos is a con artist because most of them are the same.
They lie, cheat and steal to get votes. They don't like Santos because he is embarrassing
them. Just like Madison Crawford. They were angry because he didn't keep inside the beltway secrets
and embarrassed them with the truth.

Creeps to the core, every one of them. I marvel at how one political party manages to suck up every bit of human detritus like a vacuum cleaner sucks up dirt.


Brilliant summary. Jeff Tiedrich could not have said it better.

gab13by13

(21,379 posts)
7. Hakeem Jeffries is going to get 212 votes.
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 12:41 PM
Jan 2023

If a dozen or so Magats want to vote present, I think they should do it.

groundloop

(11,521 posts)
8. At some point I'd like to see a compromise between Dems and a handful of moderate GOPers
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 12:54 PM
Jan 2023

At some point I'd like to see a compromise involving Democrats and the few reasonable GOPers remaining in the House. Some key committee assignments for Democrats, keep radical magats off of key committees, etc. and in exchange Democrats would help elect a non-radical republican (I'm not sure any still exist in the House, but surely there must be one or two).

Realistically we don't control the House anymore and it seems that some sort of arrangement like this would be far preferable to magats running everything.

soldierant

(6,905 posts)
35. One is David Joyce of Ohio
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 12:43 AM
Jan 2023

or so Robert Reich says, and I trust his jidgment. You can read his column on Substack, and he may have a video on this - I haven't checked his YouTube for a couple of days.

It would be lovely if we could get just five of them benind Adam Kunzinger, but he probably wouldn't want it.

Nittersing

(6,367 posts)
33. Honestly, I would not trust them to keep their word
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 05:42 PM
Jan 2023

I could easily imagine them promising some key assignments to get the votes they want and then turning around and saying, "Kidding!!" These folks have few ethics.

wnylib

(21,557 posts)
34. Compromise with a fascist party?
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 11:56 PM
Jan 2023

Von Hindenburg and Von Papen tried that. Didn't end well for them and their democracy.



summer_in_TX

(2,741 posts)
36. Individual members of the party are not all fascists
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:51 AM
Jan 2023

even if many are. Don't compromise with the fascists. Do work with the ones who are not fascists to block the fascists and anyone who voted against certifying Biden's election from controlling key committees and set things up so the House actually functions instead of is lost in a tangle of witch-hunts and attempts to force changes on Social Security and Medicare.

Fear of the reaction of Carlson, Hannity, and others who love to gin up anger may keep such a compromise from happening, but it would be in the best interest of the American people.

Not as sure if it's in the best long-term interests of the Democratic party or not, but I hate to see two years of time wasted on garbage instead of solving problems for the people.

NJCher

(35,706 posts)
39. I hope that is not what we get:
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 04:47 AM
Jan 2023
Not as sure if it's in the best long-term interests of the Democratic party or not, but I hate to see two years of time wasted on garbage instead of solving problems for the people.

Yes, total waste of time acting out their investigation fantasies and avoiding any semblance of "government."

Columnists and commentators are pointing out that the debt ceiling needs to be voted on and these far out nut cases are just fine with letting the U.S. go without paying its bills.

They will be in their glory days as they sink the ship.

wnylib

(21,557 posts)
41. I don't like to see 2 years wasted, either.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 06:37 PM
Jan 2023

But the current disarray among the fascists can be a good thing in the long run toward defeating them.

calimary

(81,415 posts)
12. "That block of opposition is still holding."
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 01:41 PM
Jan 2023

Steve Kornacki just confirmed it, a few moments ago as of this writing.

And since then, it’s gone up to eight votes for the spoiler, Donalds. Kevin’s frozen out again.

On edit - the Republican spoiler vote is up to 11 now.

Make that 12.

calimary

(81,415 posts)
18. Now 19.
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 02:07 PM
Jan 2023

“Kevin McCarthy is going nowhere fast.”
From Chris Jansing, I think (Andrea timed out and the next hour started).

calimary

(81,415 posts)
19. Wow! Now it's 20!
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 02:15 PM
Jan 2023

And that evidently doesn’t count the previous list of 20 - 19 of whom have now voted for Donalds. They’re not to the “S’s” yet in the alphabetical order. Keith Self of Texas has yet to be called, and he voted against McCarthy and he hasn’t voted yet. Will he make it 21?

And somebody Victoria Sparks (?) of Indiana has now voted “Preseny”. She had been a McCarthy vote.

Kevvy’s having another bad day.


“This is just a real bad look” as one of the commentators just said.

Kornacki says that brings Jeffries’ “magic number” down to 5.

calimary

(81,415 posts)
20. Looks like the action's on hold while a group of GOPers seems to be
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 02:21 PM
Jan 2023

in a huddle. “A procedural pause,” it’s being called.

Matt Gaetz and Steve Scalise are in that huddle, each seen speaking animatedly.

calimary

(81,415 posts)
21. By contrast, the coverage briefly switches to President Biden
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 02:29 PM
Jan 2023

out in Covington, KY, doing business for America.

Meanwhile, back at the Capitol, the huddle they’re calling “the rump group” (?) is still at it. Vote looks to be paused, but the small-group conversations continue. “Matt Gaetz seems to be flailing around”.

calimary

(81,415 posts)
22. Yeah. And that last name on the "Not Kevin" list hasn't even voted yet.
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 02:32 PM
Jan 2023

That would be Rep. Keith Self. They’re not even to the “S’s” yet.

calimary

(81,415 posts)
26. And just an observation ...
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 02:50 PM
Jan 2023

Republican Warren Davidson is now speaking to move for a fifth round of voting. The colleague sitting behind him looks like the third runner-up in the George Clooney look-alike contest.

calimary

(81,415 posts)
27. Lauren Boebert now up, nominating Byron Donald,
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 02:58 PM
Jan 2023

wearing a cutesy peek-a-boo blouse. “Getting the job done that we were elected to do.” Yeah, right, honey. Calls on Kevin to step down.

Call the role. Whoever the woman was, seated behind Boebert, looked like she wanted to pay tribute to the Ukrainians but couldn’t do better than a blue-and-white dress.

calimary

(81,415 posts)
28. Republican spoiler Donald's just got a tenth vote. No. Eleven now!
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 03:18 PM
Jan 2023

HAH! Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE) laments that “we’re going to be forced to work across the aisle.” Fuck you, asshole! Too damn bad you’re “going to be forced to work across the aisle”!!! You wanted it all, and for all others (especially us Dems) to bow down. Fuck you, and fuck that!

Torchlight

(3,358 posts)
32. Had the GOP taken the Tennis Court Oath, France would have a monarchy.
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 03:42 PM
Jan 2023

and the Third estate would have a second-rate, Biggest Loser telling the other estates to f- off.

Initech

(100,097 posts)
43. Yeah it's time we say we are done with their shit.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 07:47 PM
Jan 2023

If they want to go act like spoiled children, get off the Congressional floor.

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