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allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 06:18 PM Jan 2023

Yikes! Just learned that the cow in the blue and white dress who accused Dems of enjoying their

popcorn and alcohol is my U. S. Rep., Kat Cammack. (I voted for her D opponent.) She's former deputy chief of staff for former Rep. Ted Yoho and co-chairs the House anti-abortion caucus, altho she does say she would permit abortions in the case of rape, incest (if reported to law enforcement) or mother's life. Also voted to overturn the 2020 election.

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Yikes! Just learned that the cow in the blue and white dress who accused Dems of enjoying their (Original Post) allegorical oracle Jan 2023 OP
She's an asshole Zorro Jan 2023 #1
This!👆 SheltieLover Jan 2023 #2
Got that right, and then she goes, "the house is not in order" after her smug statement a kennedy Jan 2023 #56
She's an asshole but don't call her a cow malaise Jan 2023 #3
I couldn't agree with you more, comrade. WheelWalker Jan 2023 #4
Thank you. I started to post, but decided to pass on this. secondwind Jan 2023 #5
DITTO! elleng Jan 2023 #7
Thank you nt Tree-Hugger Jan 2023 #9
Thank you. n/t Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #12
Thank you! nt JoeOtterbein Jan 2023 #14
Yes, thanks malaise. nolabear Jan 2023 #16
K&R spanone Jan 2023 #21
asshole pamdb Jan 2023 #25
Agree! Bev54 Jan 2023 #27
Insult to cows housecat Jan 2023 #45
I prefer slack jowl yokel. 48656c6c6f20 Jan 2023 #52
Cows are so cool. Cracklin Charlie Jan 2023 #64
Thank you for standing up Malaise NT Tickle Jan 2023 #65
Agreed Chautauquas Jan 2023 #75
100%. NT Happy Hoosier Jan 2023 #96
Beat me to it. nt Ilsa Jan 2023 #105
Cow is unkind n/t splat Jan 2023 #6
Agree 100% Better Days Ahoy Jan 2023 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jan 2023 #67
Apologies to Cows.. they're exponentially Cha Jan 2023 #8
No fat shaming qazplm135 Jan 2023 #10
I wouldn't want Conjuay Jan 2023 #29
Someone alerted on this Fullduplexxx Jan 2023 #30
lol judesedit Jan 2023 #49
She can and should be shamed with any ammo that can be grabbed Tarc Jan 2023 #59
Not any ammo that can hit innocent bystanders, like fat shaming women. nt pnwmom Jan 2023 #62
Got so qazplm135 Jan 2023 #66
Can we call her the n-word? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2023 #68
OK... this I don't understand. Goodheart Jan 2023 #84
Plenty of people qazplm135 Jan 2023 #86
There's no consistency to it really BannonsLiver Jan 2023 #87
+1. Lol. nt ecstatic Jan 2023 #94
Do better. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2023 #11
How about expressing your distate for her without fat shaming, please. n/t Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #13
Agree! DU members are better than a tired misogynist trope Better Days Ahoy Jan 2023 #33
If I am called a cow does that mean I am fat. Polly Hennessey Jan 2023 #35
Don't play dumb. n/t Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #42
No, but it may mean Disaffected Jan 2023 #47
She should take note that the real chaos is coming from inside HER PARTY the GQP. Ziggysmom Jan 2023 #15
I'm still confused as to why that was a bad thing for her to say AkFemDem Jan 2023 #17
Cow? Yonnie3 Jan 2023 #18
Stop calling women cows. enough Jan 2023 #19
I don't mind being called a cow. I have Polly Hennessey Jan 2023 #38
Reminded me of my Southern Aunt Blue_playwright Jan 2023 #48
100% WarGamer Jan 2023 #54
Calling a spade a spade Tarc Jan 2023 #60
+10000 BannonsLiver Jan 2023 #70
A lot of things said were worse during the Bush administration. The Grand Illuminist Jan 2023 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author enough Jan 2023 #20
Yeah, your choice of words overrode your message. 70sEraVet Jan 2023 #22
Post removed Post removed Jan 2023 #23
What the fuck is this shit right here. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2023 #28
I think OP got the message about the bovine reference. GreenWave Jan 2023 #24
the only piling on I see is other ignorant comments about her weight Beaverhausen Jan 2023 #26
No, the OP clearly didn't. If the OP had, the word would have been deleted. nt pnwmom Jan 2023 #80
Is it possible you meant to say Abolishinist Jan 2023 #31
no, the OP was dropping a nasty gendered slur/bomb and 30 DU'ers rec'd it. WarGamer Jan 2023 #55
I like to refer to her as the SEA WORD Sailingdiver Jan 2023 #34
Are you kidding me? MrsCoffee Jan 2023 #93
Cammack is a GQP jerk -- but we can do better here than a misogynistic trope Better Days Ahoy Jan 2023 #36
I thought Democrats were enjoying their popcorn 🍿 Raine Jan 2023 #37
I am. Polly Hennessey Jan 2023 #39
If they are not as much as I'm enjoying some responses in this thread. BannonsLiver Jan 2023 #72
JC this thread. demmiblue Jan 2023 #40
please do not insult blue and white dresses nt msongs Jan 2023 #41
It was actually black and white malaise Jan 2023 #43
Nope, it was blue and white. IF one looks at a still photo Abolishinist Jan 2023 #46
OK😀 n/t malaise Jan 2023 #50
pic Celerity Jan 2023 #71
LOL malaise Jan 2023 #91
Names please, Kat. Which specific democrats? keithbvadu2 Jan 2023 #44
Maybe you could just edit your subject line to remove "the cow". CoopersDad Jan 2023 #51
Oh MAGNIFICENT... WarGamer Jan 2023 #53
Since we are on the topic of slurs... Behind the Aegis Jan 2023 #102
So you're OK with calling the woman a cow. Noted. WarGamer Jan 2023 #104
Did I say that? Strawman noted. Behind the Aegis Jan 2023 #106
I feel your pain - mine if Andy Biggs QED Jan 2023 #57
I thought of Keith Olbermann while listening to her Kennah Jan 2023 #58
Moo Tarc Jan 2023 #61
Moo?! Wtf is wrong with you obamanut2012 Jan 2023 #73
Share your picture so we can find superficial things AkFemDem Jan 2023 #77
30+ DUers are offended by your word choice. How many have to express dismay with your fat shaming pnwmom Jan 2023 #63
I agree, and thank you for your comment Chautauquas Jan 2023 #74
I had her down for former nail salon owner BannonsLiver Jan 2023 #69
Why not a term that's not exclusive to females? She could be called a monster, pnwmom Jan 2023 #76
I've seen trump called "slobfather" here a thousand times without objection because of his size Goodheart Jan 2023 #83
"Slob" doesn't refer to weight -- it refers to messiness. And the word "father" isn't a slur. pnwmom Jan 2023 #85
"cow"??? DU is supposed to be better than this. niyad Jan 2023 #78
No sympathy for her Mz Pip Jan 2023 #79
The deal is that the slur doesn't hurt her one bit. But it is hurtful for overweight and female pnwmom Jan 2023 #81
How do you know this is not hurtful to her? Has she so stated? Abolishinist Jan 2023 #88
Honestly, do you think she reads Democratic Underground? Which is more likely: pnwmom Jan 2023 #90
No, I HIGHLY doubt she reads DU, and I didn't at the time Abolishinist Jan 2023 #99
No, that wasn't the point I was making. When someone HERE uses that term pnwmom Jan 2023 #100
+1000 BannonsLiver Jan 2023 #82
I agree Tarc Jan 2023 #89
Popcorn hating BRAT. 🤬 nt Karma13612 Jan 2023 #92
Please be advised we are at war. The Grand Illuminist Jan 2023 #95
Which means we shouldn't be shooting our verbal ammunition carelessly, pnwmom Jan 2023 #101
Our words are often a mechanism Torchlight Jan 2023 #97
Oh look! All the poor men who feel slighted when they are asked Scrivener7 Jan 2023 #103

a kennedy

(29,694 posts)
56. Got that right, and then she goes, "the house is not in order" after her smug statement
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 08:40 PM
Jan 2023

about popcorn blankets and alcohol. 🤬

Response to splat (Reply #6)

Goodheart

(5,334 posts)
84. OK... this I don't understand.
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 11:49 PM
Jan 2023

You can shame someone's intelligence, which they're born with and have no control over, but not someone's weight, which for the most part IS a matter of control?

I'm not for fat-shaming, but this seems inconsistent to me.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
86. Plenty of people
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 11:52 PM
Jan 2023

Don't have full control over their weight. And people do have some control over their intelligence, it's called education and learning.

It's not as if people like her are incapable of understanding, if they were they wouldn't be able to function in Congress.

They are unwilling to learn, or they abandon curiosity for the safety of dogmas and prejudice.

BannonsLiver

(16,434 posts)
87. There's no consistency to it really
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 11:57 PM
Jan 2023

For example in a thread with 71 recs by a crowd favorite they implored DUers to “get off their blubbery asses”.

That’s not directed at a fascist Republican who would put us all in gulags if she had the chance, it’s directed at DUers!

But nary an objection from those complaining loudest in this thread.

To your point about the slobfather references, I think it’s not unlike office or middle school politics. If you’re in the cool kids mutual admiration society, you get a wide berth. If not, you don’t.

Ziggysmom

(3,409 posts)
15. She should take note that the real chaos is coming from inside HER PARTY the GQP.
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 06:37 PM
Jan 2023

They are the joke, the entertainment.

AkFemDem

(1,833 posts)
17. I'm still confused as to why that was a bad thing for her to say
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 06:38 PM
Jan 2023

I mean, I am enjoying my popcorn and champagne very much, thank you 🤷🏻?♀️

Polly Hennessey

(6,801 posts)
38. I don't mind being called a cow. I have
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 07:37 PM
Jan 2023

seen some spectacularly gorgeous cows. I don’t know about your universe but in mine all animals are beautiful. Being compared to some humans I might take offense.

WarGamer

(12,463 posts)
54. 100%
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 08:29 PM
Jan 2023

This slur is 100% used against women, especially with those carrying a few extra pounds.

Never seen a man called a cow.

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Response to allegorical oracle (Original post)

GreenWave

(6,763 posts)
24. I think OP got the message about the bovine reference.
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 06:58 PM
Jan 2023

In fact, there should be a 10 yard penalty for piling on. Give a human a chance to rectify.

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
26. the only piling on I see is other ignorant comments about her weight
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 07:09 PM
Jan 2023

The OP needs to fix the post. Now.

Abolishinist

(1,304 posts)
31. Is it possible you meant to say
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 07:28 PM
Jan 2023

"that the person in the blue and white dress in the cow photo who accused Dems..."



Sailingdiver

(140 posts)
34. I like to refer to her as the SEA WORD
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 07:31 PM
Jan 2023

Unfortunately, this individual is also my US Rep. Can't stand her.

As, everyone has posted she is an asshole of monumental proportions.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
93. Are you kidding me?
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 09:55 AM
Jan 2023

If you want to refer to women using misogynistic crap like that, kindly do it elsewhere.

It's really not clever at all.

Is it really so hard just to say she's an asshole and leave it at that?

Better Days Ahoy

(698 posts)
36. Cammack is a GQP jerk -- but we can do better here than a misogynistic trope
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 07:33 PM
Jan 2023

Try to use gender-neutral insults next time.
Aside from that, yeah, baby!

Abolishinist

(1,304 posts)
46. Nope, it was blue and white. IF one looks at a still photo
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 08:09 PM
Jan 2023

it could appear to be black, but it was definitely a violet-blue. Close to RGB: (12,13,86)

CoopersDad

(2,198 posts)
51. Maybe you could just edit your subject line to remove "the cow".
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 08:19 PM
Jan 2023

If you're around to read replies, it should be clear that it's offensive and there's an easy fix.

Just use the edit feature and then repost.

Pretty please.

WarGamer

(12,463 posts)
53. Oh MAGNIFICENT...
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 08:26 PM
Jan 2023

Slurring an overweight WOMAN as a COW

If she was Jewish would you have dropped a "Jewish slur", too?

What website am I on?

Is the OP Andrew Tate?

Delete this crap.

Behind the Aegis

(53,968 posts)
102. Since we are on the topic of slurs...
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 03:59 PM
Jan 2023

...using the word "Jew", a noun, as an adjective, as you did with "Jew slur", is, in fact, a slur in of itself. Had you said, "Jewish slur", that would not be a slur.

WarGamer

(12,463 posts)
104. So you're OK with calling the woman a cow. Noted.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 07:40 PM
Jan 2023

Last edited Thu Jan 5, 2023, 08:13 PM - Edit history (1)

And point taken re: grammar.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
63. 30+ DUers are offended by your word choice. How many have to express dismay with your fat shaming
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 08:56 PM
Jan 2023

Last edited Wed Jan 4, 2023, 11:29 PM - Edit history (1)

before you will edit your post to something less hurtful to others?

SHE won't be hurt by your slur, but some women and overweight people here will be.

Or do you just enjoy referring to women as cows?

Chautauquas

(4,450 posts)
74. I agree, and thank you for your comment
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 11:04 PM
Jan 2023

There's several comments in this thread that are offensive. In fact, I just voted to hide one of them.

BannonsLiver

(16,434 posts)
69. I had her down for former nail salon owner
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 10:31 PM
Jan 2023

🤷?♂️

But yeah terrible human being. Certainly much worse than a cow. Is “hag” okay language police?

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
76. Why not a term that's not exclusive to females? She could be called a monster,
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 11:16 PM
Jan 2023

a creep, a toad, a disgusting or loathsome human being, or any number of other terms that aren't a way to insult women in particular.

Her gender has nothing to do with her repulsiveness. Neither does her size. But out of all the insults they could have chosen, the OP chose to insult her weight and her gender.

And with your own reference to "language police" you're demonstrating your own insensitivity.

Goodheart

(5,334 posts)
83. I've seen trump called "slobfather" here a thousand times without objection because of his size
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 11:42 PM
Jan 2023

and appearance.



pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
85. "Slob" doesn't refer to weight -- it refers to messiness. And the word "father" isn't a slur.
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 11:52 PM
Jan 2023

Go ahead and object to the term if it bothers you. However, some people consider it a compliment. Trump might even like it.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SlobFather

In fantasy football a SlobFather is someone who can’t be beat. They draft exquisitely, the get the better of all trades and are masters of the waiver wire.
Don’t put in a lineup, why bother? You ain’t got a chance, against the SlobFather!!!


On the other hand, dozens of DUers have expressed their dismay with a woman being referred to as a cow.

Mz Pip

(27,452 posts)
79. No sympathy for her
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 11:24 PM
Jan 2023

These are the folks who called Democrats Communists, pedophiles, baby killers. Now they’re offended by popcorn. Give me a break.

So she gets called a a name for a female bovine. BFD.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
81. The deal is that the slur doesn't hurt her one bit. But it is hurtful for overweight and female
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 11:28 PM
Jan 2023

DUers to see it here.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
90. Honestly, do you think she reads Democratic Underground? Which is more likely:
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:05 AM
Jan 2023

Last edited Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:45 AM - Edit history (1)

that she will see the post here, or that thousands of DU members will?

Abolishinist

(1,304 posts)
99. No, I HIGHLY doubt she reads DU, and I didn't at the time
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:23 PM
Jan 2023

believe that you thought so either.

So with that as a frame of reference, when you said 'the slur doesn't hurt her one bit', the point I thought you were attempting to make was that IF someone referred to her as a COW (anywhere outside of DU), she would not be 'hurt' by said reference, as opposed to many on DU who are.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
100. No, that wasn't the point I was making. When someone HERE uses that term
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:28 PM
Jan 2023

to refer to any overweight woman, even a detestable Republican, the only people it hurts are DU readers who are overweight and/or female.

So why is the OP stubbornly clinging to that wording, when dozens of DUers have expressed their unhappiness with the fat and female shaming?

Karma13612

(4,553 posts)
92. Popcorn hating BRAT. 🤬 nt
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 09:35 AM
Jan 2023

In all fairness, we really need to come up with an acceptable non-misogynistic word for a disagreeable person.

The ones I use in private are very satisfying because they begin with the letter B or F. Both letters seem to satisfy the urge to express pure frustration against unpleasant humans. Not sure why, maybe linguists can weigh in on this.

B, and F’ing B. There is one for each sex. They are not acceptable in polite conversation so I just say brat instead.

I am open to suggestions as to what to label unpleasant humans.



The Grand Illuminist

(1,335 posts)
95. Please be advised we are at war.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:10 PM
Jan 2023

She is an enemy pure and simple. Give the enemy no honor and give them no quarter. If someone wants to call her a cow, it is probably because she deserves to be called that and not at the broad range.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
101. Which means we shouldn't be shooting our verbal ammunition carelessly,
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:31 PM
Jan 2023

in a way that harms people on our side.

Calling her a cow doesn't hurt her one bit, because she's never going to see the post. But it does hurt and divide DUers.

Torchlight

(3,358 posts)
97. Our words are often a mechanism
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:15 PM
Jan 2023

for displaying the content of our character.

She displayed hers with her own words, as our reactions may often do the same.

Scrivener7

(50,989 posts)
103. Oh look! All the poor men who feel slighted when they are asked
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 06:19 PM
Jan 2023

not to refer to women as livestock have shown up.

Look how cute they are when they fight for their right to show their disdain or women!

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