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Never underestimate the stupidity of Lauren Boebert (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2023 OP
Dumb shit. dalton99a Jan 2023 #1
Boebert took Hannity on. Not dumb just malicious. live love laugh Jan 2023 #38
It's Representative Democracy for a reason. She represents the plurality of her district. 🤡 TheBlackAdder Jan 2023 #45
On that basis maybe Congress should just be disbanded? Ocelot II Jan 2023 #2
She is not dumb. Big Blue Marble Jan 2023 #4
Oh I disagree...she's dumber than snot Docreed2003 Jan 2023 #13
Well she is in control of the House of Representatives in the most powerful country in the world. Big Blue Marble Jan 2023 #49
She's dumber than shit. LuckyCharms Jan 2023 #61
Are you fucking kidding me??!??? AZ8theist Jan 2023 #14
We may detest her and I do. Big Blue Marble Jan 2023 #16
I dropped out of high school Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #70
She's dumb. She said the Senate took away their authority. brush Jan 2023 #19
First of all, dumb means a person is not able to speak. Big Blue Marble Jan 2023 #20
That's your opinion. She babbled on with nonsense... brush Jan 2023 #21
Haven't you figured out after the last 7 years, Big Blue Marble Jan 2023 #23
We think differently. You seem to think facts don't matter... brush Jan 2023 #24
Sorry you are missing the point. Big Blue Marble Jan 2023 #26
Sorry, I'm not impressed by attention whores... brush Jan 2023 #29
If facts mattered to most voters in this country, Trump would already be in jail. Big Blue Marble Jan 2023 #35
You're missing a major point: Straw Man Jan 2023 #37
I am not missing the point. That is my point. Big Blue Marble Jan 2023 #40
Actually, no, it isn't. Straw Man Jan 2023 #42
I have never praised her. Big Blue Marble Jan 2023 #46
You said she was shrewd (my translation of "shewed," which I assume was a typo). Straw Man Jan 2023 #57
There are different types of intelligence Dorian Gray Jan 2023 #58
Indeed. good analysis. brush Jan 2023 #78
I get your points. We DO need to understand that we were not Boebert's audience tonight. ancianita Jan 2023 #30
You make so many great points. Big Blue Marble Jan 2023 #44
Well, ancianita Jan 2023 #50
No. That's not what Big Blue Marble is saying at all. ancianita Jan 2023 #31
BBM seems to be a fan of Boebert. I'm not impressed. brush Jan 2023 #33
I don't hear that at all. "Seems." Hold that thought. ancianita Jan 2023 #34
In 3 replies to me she touts how smart and shrewed Boebert is. brush Jan 2023 #36
So what. You and I and BBM are not Boebert's audience. That's how BBM sees Boebert's audience as ancianita Jan 2023 #43
So what? Touting attention whores spouting... brush Jan 2023 #53
You call BBM an attention whore, huh. Okay. ancianita Jan 2023 #56
Is comprehension a problen? I called boebert an attention whore... brush Jan 2023 #68
Okay. Sorry for the misunderstanding. ancianita Jan 2023 #69
You, BBM, everyone on DU, and myself believe that Facts Matter. AllTooEasy Jan 2023 #48
I'm not impressed, either. Cha Jan 2023 #51
I completely disagree with BBM Dorian Gray Jan 2023 #59
Dumb has multiple meanings. Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #73
✔️ She's not dumb. Look at my response to #1 above. live love laugh Jan 2023 #39
She's stupid Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #74
Agree. Cunning is a more fitting term. live love laugh Jan 2023 #77
This is the point where I'm jumping off. NBachers Jan 2023 #47
BBM, I think you want to distinguish between IGNORANCE (and she is intensely so) hlthe2b Jan 2023 #55
She is her base, she's one of them. That's why they vote for her. She is quite stupid. panader0 Jan 2023 #67
How Did Stephanie Do With Her? SoCalDavidS Jan 2023 #3
Stephanie folded, a missed oportunity. Big Blue Marble Jan 2023 #5
Bummer SoCalDavidS Jan 2023 #7
That is why I would not watch, it happens too many times, they think they will take them Bev54 Jan 2023 #10
I couldn't make myself watch. 3catwoman3 Jan 2023 #6
Consider Who Is Being Interviewed SoCalDavidS Jan 2023 #8
It was actually fascinating in a strange and scary way. Big Blue Marble Jan 2023 #9
I completely disagree. cilla4progress Jan 2023 #22
Ruhle was condescending. Big Blue Marble Jan 2023 #25
Wow cilla4progress Jan 2023 #28
Poor little Election Denier boebert.. Cha Jan 2023 #54
I wouldn't say Boebert dominated. I'd say Ruhle gave her the floor to show she was LISTENING. ancianita Jan 2023 #32
Thanks, ancianita! cilla4progress Jan 2023 #62
Nothing personal, just business Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #75
RIGHT?? ancianita Jan 2023 #76
I agree with you ... Raine Jan 2023 #60
I agree with your assessment. Rhule did fine. She gave Bobo rope to hang herself. Earth-shine Jan 2023 #65
Shes been on SNL forever lol Cheezoholic Jan 2023 #11
Lauren Boebert, Rabble Rouser C0RI0LANUS Jan 2023 #12
or "Enable Rube Rot" trusty elf Jan 2023 #41
Good one, Trusty Elf. C0RI0LANUS Jan 2023 #79
This interview was insane. Bo has no idea how anything works. nolabear Jan 2023 #15
I did want Ruhle to ask her cilla4progress Jan 2023 #64
Hah - & without looking at the content! UTUSN Jan 2023 #17
That Was Painful But Potentially Illuminating DET Jan 2023 #18
The old saying, Mr. Evil Jan 2023 #27
The effects of lead poisoning Old Crank Jan 2023 #52
Never underestimate the stupidity of republican voters that Emile Jan 2023 #63
I don't think that's possible. Aristus Jan 2023 #66
My Head Hurts NowISeetheLight Jan 2023 #71
She really does come across as less than prepared for her job. Torchlight Jan 2023 #72
Likewise, never underestimate the stupidity of the people who Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2023 #80

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
45. It's Representative Democracy for a reason. She represents the plurality of her district. 🤡
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 03:36 AM
Jan 2023

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
4. She is not dumb.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:01 AM
Jan 2023

She is an clever operator. Her base just eats up this crap. Do not miss she will be part of
the cabal running our congress for the next two years.

Docreed2003

(18,714 posts)
13. Oh I disagree...she's dumber than snot
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:12 AM
Jan 2023

She's semi smart enough to regurgitate talking points but she's not smart, she's not playing some long game...Boebert is a dipshit who lucked into the position she is in right now and will continue to be a "cute" mouthpiece to regurgitate whatever talking point she's given.

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
49. Well she is in control of the House of Representatives in the most powerful country in the world.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 03:57 AM
Jan 2023

And we can sit around and congratulate ourselves on how much smarter we are, but that
is not going to change the fact that she will hold this power for two years and can do much
damage.

LuckyCharms

(22,655 posts)
61. She's dumber than shit.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 07:17 AM
Jan 2023

Doesn't matter what position she holds, what "power" she has. She's dumber than a bucket of hair.

Anyone can spew out random words, and that's what she does.

And she's in a position of power because people just as stupid as her put her in that position.

AZ8theist

(7,381 posts)
14. Are you fucking kidding me??!???
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:13 AM
Jan 2023

She is a fucking MORON and a high school drop out.

As well as a pedophile enabler. (her husband..)

This single digit IQ idiot shouldn't be anywhere near any government. EVER.

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
16. We may detest her and I do.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:31 AM
Jan 2023

And no she should not be anywhere near our government. That does not make her dumb.
She is smart enough to be dangerous as she controls our congress for the next two year.

Our dehumanizing her only feeds her base.

Note: being a high school drop out does not mean you are dumb. I know several drop outs with high IQ's.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
70. I dropped out of high school
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:23 PM
Jan 2023

To go to college sooner.

Took the GED.

Hungover from a party my (college-aged) boyfriend threw.

On less than four hours sleep.

Without studying for it.

I aced the test.

The college where I took the test called me before I even got the results, to beg me to register for college, come talk to a counselor, asap. I laughed and said, "That was the plan. See you tomorrow."

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
19. She's dumb. She said the Senate took away their authority.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:45 AM
Jan 2023

How in the hell does she think the Senate took away the House's authority? And she also said, stupidly, that as long as there's no speaker the taxpayers are saving as no money is being spent.

Both statements are absolute ignorance.

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
20. First of all, dumb means a person is not able to speak.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:52 AM
Jan 2023

I just watched Boebert speak rapidly for 10 minutes commanding the screen and dominating her host.
Secondly, no she is not book smart, but she is extremely shewed. Do not underestimate her ability to
influence her national base. She feeds them what they want to hear. And most importantly, she and
her ilk will be running the show in our congress for the next two years. Let's not underestimate her
impact on our lives. Convincing ourselves that she is stupid or dumb will not ease the pain that lies
ahead.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
21. That's your opinion. She babbled on with nonsense...
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:00 AM
Jan 2023

Ruhle even stopped her to fact check her foolishness about the taxpayers saving as no money is being spent while there's no Speaker.

But do carry on thinking that's shrewd and smart. I disagree.

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
23. Haven't you figured out after the last 7 years,
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:13 AM
Jan 2023

facts do not matter. If you get hung up on the facts are wrong, you miss the forest for the trees.
These people have control of our House Of Representatives and are holding our country hostage.

We can sit around and pat ourselves on the back because we know "the facts" and they do not,
but they are winning with their narrative without the "the facts."

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
24. We think differently. You seem to think facts don't matter...
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:18 AM
Jan 2023

and Boebert is smart. Pls continue, governor with that line of reasoning.

Are you also a fan of George Santos, another fact-free republican?

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
26. Sorry you are missing the point.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:21 AM
Jan 2023

Facts do not matter to nearly half this county. And that fact seems lost on you,
even though it has been apparent to most of us for over 7 years. Where have you been?

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
29. Sorry, I'm not impressed by attention whores...
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:29 AM
Jan 2023

babbling republican talking points. If facts don't matter trump would still be president and Biden and the Dems would not have had the most successful first two years of an admin since FDR's New Deal legislation and LBJ's Great Society achievements. But carry on with the republican-sounding talking points.

Are you sure you're on the right site?

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
35. If facts mattered to most voters in this country, Trump would already be in jail.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 03:02 AM
Jan 2023

and Hakeem Jeffries would be Speaker. We would be looking at two more successful years of
governance instead of shit show that lays ahead. .

Can't you disagree with with a DU member without insulting them. How small of you.
I have been on this site 8 years longer than you have.

Straw Man

(6,947 posts)
37. You're missing a major point:
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 03:09 AM
Jan 2023

It doesn't take any brains to pander to stupid people. They will believe any crap you say as long as you stroke their pathetic prejudices. She has memorized the buzzwords that will tickle the MAGA morons, but she clearly has very little grasp of the actual workings of the government of which she is a part.

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
40. I am not missing the point. That is my point.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 03:15 AM
Jan 2023

What she is doing works. That is why we have to deal with her and her ilk. That is why
we had four years of Trump and could have a repeat. We can pride ourselves in our superiority,
but they have control of the House and will create chaos for two years.

Straw Man

(6,947 posts)
42. Actually, no, it isn't.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 03:18 AM
Jan 2023

You've been praising her tactics. It's like admiring the acumen of a heroin dealer because he understands his customers' needs so well. It ain't rocket science.

The fact that she is claiming that this dysfunction is saving the taxpayers money is proof positive that she has no idea how her own legislative body works.

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
46. I have never praised her.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 03:40 AM
Jan 2023

Nor do I admire her. You continue to miss the point while denying it. Understand your enemy.
She is effective. She and her gang of 20 are in control. At this time, we have no functioning
House. It does not matter to her or too her base, that she does not know how it is run. It
only matters that she holds the power over us all.

Straw Man

(6,947 posts)
57. You said she was shrewd (my translation of "shewed," which I assume was a typo).
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 05:18 AM
Jan 2023

I heartily disagree. She knows how to get attention; so does a baby that smears its shit on the wall. Other babies may admire the act, but objectively it's far from shrewd.

It takes nothing but the most basic kind of animal intelligence to feed buzzwords to rubes: "When I say 'far left Democrats,' they salivate. I think I'll say it again." Ask her to define the different sides of the political spectrum: what they believe, how they operate, etc. I'll bet you anything she would be unable to answer in anything but buzzwords and catch-phrases. I don't call that "shrewd."

Dorian Gray

(13,850 posts)
58. There are different types of intelligence
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 06:08 AM
Jan 2023

and while I wouldn't personally ascribe any of them to Boebert, I think that you areconfusing the other poster for admiring Boebert bc she has enough political "savvy" to use lies and misrepresentations to feed her base of supporters to get them onboard.

Does she have "savvy" or the "reptilian instincts of Trump?"

I don't think so. In my mind she's a dimwit who is along for the ride. But she's trainable and has a media presence.

She was challenged by both Hannity AND Ruhle (two opposite ends of the spectrum), and I think she came off terribly in the clips I saw of both shows. (But I'm pre-disposed to thinking that way.)

The question is... are she and Gaetz effective enough to get the Republicans on board with what they're doing? I don't think so. They look like spoiled children. (I saw that loving watching every moment of McCarthy twisting in the wind. He deserves this.)

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
30. I get your points. We DO need to understand that we were not Boebert's audience tonight.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:35 AM
Jan 2023

Republicans were. And her base in CO were.

I get that you understand that, to them, facts do not matter; it's myopic for others here to think you are speaking about yourself.

Just because we Democrats are more fact-based, morally consistent, or right, doesn't mean we know how to fight for the soul of America. Stephanie Ruhle is doing exactly what media should do -- a kind of 'Fairness Doctrine" exercise. That's a good thing. And until we do more of what Ruhle does -- let them speak their ideology, their accompanying fact-free politics, not just to beat them, but to keep them from seeing violence as their only option.

Totally ignoring them is a mistake, now that they are a 54-member caucus in the House, we will have to model how to deal with difference.

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
44. You make so many great points.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 03:31 AM
Jan 2023

We need to become more effective at communicating. We naturally think that intelligent rational arguments
will convince enough voters to vote Democratic. But it is not working as well as we would hope
and the results are the Boeberts, MTG and the rest in numbers that will impact our lives.

If the last two days are any indication of what is ahead, maybe the next two years will bring
more voters to consciousness

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
50. Well,
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 03:57 AM
Jan 2023

my point is mostly that no matter how good our communication is, no amount of rational argument convinces people who apply faith based world views to anything we say about politics, or even what scientists say. Jesus failed, too, but it had nothing to do with how clear, teacherly or conscious he was. The story goes that out of the thousands he spoke to, he only won over a little more than 12.

I don't agree that our communications shortcomings "resulted" in Boeberts, MTG, etc. Those people are products of their upbringing, education, chosen beliefs, ideologies, and community relationships. Those are contexts that our communication can't change or offset.

God help us if the last two days are any indication at all about the next two years. Regardless, Democrats will be, as usual, working their butts off to do their best. And as usual, media will convince many that Democrats have a "messaging" problem.

We beat the 74 million trumpers by over 7 million. My takeaway on that was that it wasn't necessarily because we raised awareness (I don't know about consciousness). Some polls showed they did "get" that democracy was on the ballot. I also took away that they just watched what both sides said and did, and decided which party would work best for the country.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
36. In 3 replies to me she touts how smart and shrewed Boebert is.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 03:03 AM
Jan 2023

Still not impressed, especially the bs that facts, which is truth, doesn't matter.

I can't distance myself fast enough away from that.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
43. So what. You and I and BBM are not Boebert's audience. That's how BBM sees Boebert's audience as
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 03:26 AM
Jan 2023

thinking about Boebert. Boebert got a lot of challenge from Ruhle, but she also got listened to.

I didn't read anything BBM said (using the word shrewd? Come ON) as misunderstanding that. We hate to give ANY credence to Republicans, and they've earned that distrust. Still, even President Biden listens -- to Xi Xinping for hours, to Mitch McConnell, to all kinds of strong man leaders. Pelosi listens.

We can be good partisans, but we don't have to be so purist that we act tainted when anyone listens to the opposition's way of thinking. That's just blind partisanship. And don't forget this place used to be Trump Central -- every single thing got presented, analyzed and shredded. Suddenly, we can't listen to Boebert? Can't put up with her on MSNBC, the most liberal of corporate news channels?

You're not impressed? Sounds a bit disingenuous and pretty judgmental of a fellow Democrat, given all the attention we've paid to the rest for whom "stupid" is the norm.

It's been a long day. People get tired by evening. Maybe we should give this back-and-forth a rest.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
53. So what? Touting attention whores spouting...
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 04:14 AM
Jan 2023

republican talking points is pretty uncommon on DU.

And "so what" you say? Please. Boebert barely won re-election by a recount of a few votes but she loves to get in front of Mics and babble on. BBM and you apparently didn't here Michael Steele's rebuttal to what she spouted and how that repubican crappola spew dates back to 2010 teaparty, the Grinrich '90s and he Reagan late '70s. It's all still pure bs of a strain of a few republicans who want to instill white supremacist rule over everyone — the LGBTQ+ demographic, Blacks and other POCs, progressive whites, religions other than white Christianity (you might remember her little commedy routine she did likening Muslim Rep. Ilyan Omar to a suicide bomber. https://www.quora.com/What-do-you-think-about-Rep-Ilhan-Omar-receiving-death-threats-after-Lauren-Boebert-likened-her-to-a-suicide-bomber)

And you say "so what"?

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
56. You call BBM an attention whore, huh. Okay.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 04:49 AM
Jan 2023

Oh, I heard Steele. His wasn't a rebuttal. You apparently didn't hear Michael Steele say that Boebert made salient, sincere points about rules and fairness. Either you heard what you wanted to hear, or you could've heard him on Nicole, or on Joy, or on a show different from the one I saw. But I heard him. Twice.

We're really agreeing about Boebert, and

all still pure bs of a strain of a few republicans who want to instill white supremacist rule over everyone — the LGBTQ+ demographic, Blacks and other POCs, progressive whites, religions other than white Christianity
stuff.

What we're not agreeing on is how to accept fellow Democrats who try to stay open to the opposition in this particular situation.

We're united in not helping the Republicans or that freedumb caucus, okay? We can still support each other's perspectives without dragging the last two elections into this situation, and without necessarily agreeing with every last sentence.

So what. Yeah, I said it.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
68. Is comprehension a problen? I called boebert an attention whore...
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 12:39 PM
Jan 2023

not BBM. Get it straight.

AllTooEasy

(1,261 posts)
48. You, BBM, everyone on DU, and myself believe that Facts Matter.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 03:54 AM
Jan 2023

We wouldn't be Democrats if facts didn't matter TO US. BBM is simply stating another fact: Facts don't matter to Repuke voters, and Repukes like Boebart are taking advantage of that fact in red dominated districts in order to hold their seat.

Here's more facts:

If you use facts to win the governorship in TX, WY, AL, or FL, You Will Lose!

If you use facts to win a House seat in Boebert's, Gaetz, or MTG's district, You Will Lose!

If you use facts to win the RNC POTUS nomination, You Will Lose!

Having the facts on your side does not guarantee you an election victory. See Hillary 2008 and every Dem election lost over the past 120 years.

If facts matter to you, then accept those facts and strategize accordingly.





Dorian Gray

(13,850 posts)
59. I completely disagree with BBM
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 06:10 AM
Jan 2023

that Boebert is intelligent, yet I don't see how they are showing any inclination towards "fanning" Boebert. They're being critical of her. Is it the use of "Smart?"

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
73. Dumb has multiple meanings.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:36 PM
Jan 2023

People who aren't dumb know that.

She's not smart at all. She has a certain low cunning, but that != smart. Not in the least.

I keep making this comparison to get it through people's heads, but think of it this way: Monkeys are smart. Cats are smart. Dogs are smart. They have emotions and situational awareness and so on. They make calculated decisions based on what they have learned.

Sharks aren't smart. Sharks are, in fact, very fricking STUPID. They know eating and humping. Outside of that, they know nothing. They're like the bug-blatter beast of Traal in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Their entire thought process is always, HUNGRY HUNGRY HUNGRY Bad-Tempered. HUNGRY HUNGRY HUNGRY. Opposite sex smell--HORNY. HUNGRY HUNGRY HUNGRY HUNGRY.

They have just enough low cunning to find prey, and then use brute strength to kill it. That's all they know. But you will never--ever--see a shark do what cats do of sneaking up on their prey for the best opportunity to attack; cats even know to get downwind from their prey, to increase the chances of making a clean kill. All of that not only improves the efficiency of their hunting, but also takes an advanced degree of premeditation and calculation--i.e., intelligence. Sharks don't do that. All they do is swim endlessly for any opportunity to feast. They don't sneak up on prey. They just bludgeon it to death when they come across potential prey. That's it.

Same thing with this twit--she has the kind of low cunning to recognize prey when she sees it, and then attack. But she knows nothing of strategy or tactics.

A fricking housecat is 10000000000X smarter than that ambulatory tramp stamp is.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
74. She's stupid
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:38 PM
Jan 2023

And proud of it.

Don't confuse low cunning with intelligence. They aren't the same thing.

hlthe2b

(113,974 posts)
55. BBM, I think you want to distinguish between IGNORANCE (and she is intensely so)
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 04:21 AM
Jan 2023

and innately "dumb" or "stupid"... I agree that she is more the former because like Trump she can display some instinctive tactics that make her appear to be a bit savvy and that skill is not one typically possessed by a "dumb" person.

But her intense ignorance comes through so damned frequently that I would forgive those who don't distinguish between the two.

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
5. Stephanie folded, a missed oportunity.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:02 AM
Jan 2023

Stephanie sounded like she was working for McCarthy.
I would have loved to see Nicole take her on.

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
10. That is why I would not watch, it happens too many times, they think they will take them
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:07 AM
Jan 2023

on and they are just not prepared with the right push back. WTF is she talking about the senate taking away their authority for the next 10 mos. The bill that was just passed should have been done in Sept, nothing to do with this new congress.

3catwoman3

(29,407 posts)
6. I couldn't make myself watch.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:03 AM
Jan 2023

Just couldn't.

Did I miss anything that would make such torture worthwhile?

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
8. Consider Who Is Being Interviewed
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:05 AM
Jan 2023

I did not watch, but I'm guessing there is Zero chance you missed anything intelligent. Probably a lot of senseless babbling by a Moron who got elected by other Morons.

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
9. It was actually fascinating in a strange and scary way.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:05 AM
Jan 2023

And I usually avoid these types. Unfortunately, Stephanie definitely did not rule.
Boebert ran circles around her.

cilla4progress

(26,525 posts)
22. I completely disagree.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:11 AM
Jan 2023

Bobo spoke entirely word salad. Meaningless.

Ruhle was polite. Her body language said it all.

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
25. Ruhle was condescending.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:18 AM
Jan 2023

She played right into the right wing meme that we are elitist. Boebert dominated her.
It was embarrassing. Ruhle sounded like she was arguing McCarthy talking points, exactly
the same ones Hannity used earlier when he attacked Boebert.

Cha

(319,089 posts)
54. Poor little Election Denier boebert..
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 04:18 AM
Jan 2023

who was Praised by Russian Tv Over Ukraine stance.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
32. I wouldn't say Boebert dominated. I'd say Ruhle gave her the floor to show she was LISTENING.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:47 AM
Jan 2023

Ruhle's arms were crossed -- a good body language message Boebert needed to see -- while she listened.

My Chinese in-laws believe that one should "keep friends close and enemies closer" and I'm beginning to see why.

Ruhle is smart and highly respected in the world of business, and is getting to be a successor Brian Williams would appreciate. How Ruhle understands it's "nothing personal, just business," is appreciated by wider audiences. She models a kind of "Fairness Doctrine" space from back in the day, and demonstrates another reason why we can do better news and politics when we don't flee from political opponents.

cilla4progress

(26,525 posts)
62. Thanks, ancianita!
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 10:20 AM
Jan 2023

Disturbing when people can't see through someone who is so transparently fake and a poser, such as bobo!

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
75. Nothing personal, just business
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:48 PM
Jan 2023

Is the calling card of a psychopath.

One of the most interesting things I learned from a business person who took a small company he founded into a massive multimillion-dollar corporation is that he believed business is ALL personal. It's about the relationships you build with people across an industry, and beyond. You're not just moving widgets--you're moving people you need to supply you with the components of the widgets, and then more people to build them, distribute them and sell them and so on. You're moving people to help fund your business--banks and government officials to loan you money, especially in the beginning, and then onward as you need to grow. Moving CPAs to make sure you stay out of tax trouble, admins who field your calls and type your letters, lawyers to protect your trademarks and make sure you don't screw up a contract--

On and on, over and over, he said that everything about running a business taught him that A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS IS PERSONAL. It always has been and always will be.

You know who he learned that from? Our grandfather, who was also a small businessman, and, even though he never got wealthy off it, he was still a highly respected businessman during his lifetime.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
76. RIGHT??
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:52 PM
Jan 2023

Good win-win capitalists know this. Win-lose capitalists hurt humans and, eventually, the planet.

Win-win capitalists know the value of humans in their businesses and economies.

A BIG thank you for this.

Raine

(31,179 posts)
60. I agree with you ...
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 06:58 AM
Jan 2023

I liked how Ruhle handled the interview, letting Bobo ramble on making an ass of herself. Ruhle showed Bobo for a fool who avoided giving answers even attempting to drag in the founding fathers.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
65. I agree with your assessment. Rhule did fine. She gave Bobo rope to hang herself.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 11:37 AM
Jan 2023

Ruhle also ended it such that Bobo can come back again to further make a fool of herself.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
15. This interview was insane. Bo has no idea how anything works.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:26 AM
Jan 2023

She just wants to burn it all down. I had never heard her speak at length. She’s a fine combination of dumb and crazed. Woof!

cilla4progress

(26,525 posts)
64. I did want Ruhle to ask her
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 11:31 AM
Jan 2023

1) what does she consider to be her leadership style

2) what does she understand "negotiation" to be? My way or the highway?

DET

(2,501 posts)
18. That Was Painful But Potentially Illuminating
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:40 AM
Jan 2023

I’d like to know if that interview was live or pre-taped. Boebert is dumb as a rock, but she is on a mission to bring down McCarthy - even if he concedes to her demands. If she represents just a handful of the holdouts, McCarthy could still lose the speakership. I sure hope so.

Mr. Evil

(3,457 posts)
27. The old saying,
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:22 AM
Jan 2023

'you can dazzle them with brilliance or baffle them with bullshit' proves that Bobo is smart at one thing... being dumb.

Torchlight

(6,830 posts)
72. She really does come across as less than prepared for her job.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:33 PM
Jan 2023

And though I don't expect the King's English from anyone, I do set a standard of 'at least make a literate case for your opinion' for someone (anyone) in a leadership position.

It honestly sounds as though she's just reciting words (and badly) without knowing their meaning.

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