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They could cut a deal with Kevin. He ends the deals with the insurrectionists and they vote present in numbers to give him a majority. KM gets his Chair, we get a congress back to work, and the traitors get nothing
bucolic_frolic
(55,043 posts)He'd have to repeal them all to have any semblance of power.
VMA131Marine
(5,267 posts)Whatever deal they make, they couldnt trust McCarthy to keep from breaking it as he inevitably would.
AngryOldDem
(14,180 posts)People dont trust Kev to keep his word, and that includes his own caucus. That, plus hes most likely pissed off chairmen who dont want any of these loonies on their committees, which is probably one of Kevs desperation moves.
Hes pretty much boxed himself into an impossible corner.
The Dems should just stay out of it.
Lovie777
(22,903 posts)Mysterian
(6,451 posts)Repubs can vote for Hakeem.
Vote for Hakeem. All we need is six votes
Autumn
(48,952 posts)lapfog_1
(31,890 posts)and could anyone trust him to keep the deal?
underpants
(196,390 posts)My 2¢
Happy Hoosier
(9,530 posts)He promised all kinds of investigations and intereference with Biden. What on earth is in it for us to help him? We should absolutely refuse to help ANY Republican under current conditions.
Whiskeytide
(4,654 posts)a lot more than 20, and the deal would never get approved.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)hlthe2b
(113,841 posts)Enough said... You don't know Kevin, I guess.
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)Then yes make a deal.
W_HAMILTON
(10,328 posts)In case you haven't been listening to the news, no one thinks that Republicans, much less McCarthy, are willing to cut a deal with Democrats at the moment.
So, put your blame where it rightfully belongs: squarely at the feet of the Republicans.
dem4decades
(14,038 posts)durablend
(9,252 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)Mz Pip
(28,441 posts)Why would he keep his word?
Tree Lady
(13,265 posts)Are holding out not helping Kevin. This republican party has shown democrats over the last especially 20 years we can't trust anything they say.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,877 posts)No need for House Democrats to run in and rescue him. His hubris is drowning him..."I earned this" referring to the Speaker's Gavel.
GFY Kevvie!
Marius25
(3,213 posts)That's why the 21 won't vote for him. He's a spineless, lying piece of garbage.
Would you agree to a promise made by Trump? Of course not. McCarthy is just as dishonest.
Meadowoak
(6,606 posts)Emile
(42,186 posts)CatWoman
(80,288 posts)Emile
(42,186 posts)EarthFirst
(4,141 posts)Were in this position due to their ratfucking of the electoral process; let them flounder under their own consequences and eat themselves alive
212!
sarisataka
(22,658 posts)But why? The longer this goes the worse they look.
It is a siege that we can just sit back and watch. Which side will wear down first?
Also, popcorn is cheap and plentiful
spanone
(141,535 posts)The Third Doctor
(449 posts)Of a sickness in the gop. This is all their fault for catering to fringe nutcase.
GoCubsGo
(34,890 posts)NO THANK YOU. This is the GOP's mess. The Dems clean up after them enough. Not this time. Especially not if it involves cutting a deal with a well-known liar. And, especially not after all the threats his party has been making against them. Fuck that shit.
randr
(12,642 posts)Of course as many Republicans could not be present and throw the Chair to Jeffries. Who will blink first? Who will place Country over Party?
CatWoman
(80,288 posts)cally
(21,865 posts)And supported traitors. No
Hekate
(100,133 posts)What does he have left to deal with when it comes to the only party that wants to govern?
Hotler
(13,747 posts)Fuck that shit!
Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)have at it!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and intense anti-Democratic, anti-liberal, anti-government, anti-taxation, and now anti-democracy passions.
McCarthy and company have been betraying the nation, pleasing their voters, and serving their megadonors by blocking everything the Democrats try to get done for years now. Any who try to work with us in the way imagined would have a pack of hyenas on their backs as soon as it got out. (They do quietly work with us behind the scenes on some things they want, but that doesn't change what they are.)
The Freedom Caucus types differ from most of the rest in that they're even more viciously nihilistic oppositional types who add the GOP house's "90% majority" itself to those they attack. They're intensely ruthless and willing to tear the institution apart to get their way, or these days just to tear it apart.
myohmy2
(3,721 posts)...if kevvy became Speaker would the MAGAt's ever go along with him no matter how juicy some fascist piece of legislation may be...?
...I doubt it...
...it's a gamble but MAGAt's are in essence, crazy...to get anything done would force kevvy our way...
...what can we extract from kevvy that kevvy's willing to get on TV and declare...?
...we should be exploring, what have we got to lose...?
...Joe's said we should all get along...
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)Nobody can trust anything McCarthy would "promise," because I guarantee he would have his fingers crossed behind his back with whatever he said to get his way.
Make him come crawling for help if he wants it. And make him go on LIVE NATIONAL TV to announce that he's giving the Democrats every concession they want, to get their votes.
Then turn around and vote 212 for Hakeem again.
Just to show how much we don't trust that amoral psychopath.
we can do it
(13,024 posts)you actually believe that?
EarthFirst
(4,141 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(4,982 posts)Six of them can vote for Leader Jefferies.
Fuck helping them.
The onus is NOT ON US!
This is no time to go weak in the knees.
randr
(12,642 posts)There must be enough of them who have won in blue states or districts that Biden won. They will be on the block in two years and hold no loyalty to KM. They need to wake up and realize the insurrectionists will turn on them as the have turned on KM.
mcar
(45,997 posts)Why would the Democrats get in the way of the R self-immolation?
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)Nobody can trust anything McCarthy promises, especially not Democrats. He WILL NOT uphold his end of anything he promises. Not ever. As soon as their backs are turned, he will stab them in the back.
It's naive in the extreme to expect anything different of amoral trash like McCarthy.
iemanja
(57,751 posts)Democrats have nothing to gain by helping him get the speakership.