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What if Kevin said "Vote for me or I will get 6 Dems to vote for me, and then give you nothing" (Original Post) TomDaisy Jan 2023 OP
Some R's could vote for Jeffries and scare the heck out of Bobo and Matt. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #1
I'm betting he tried that already Raven123 Jan 2023 #2
They would snitch on him to Fox. GreenWave Jan 2023 #3
Probably couldn't find 6 Dems Stoopid enough to trust him Meadowoak Jan 2023 #4
+1000 Emile Jan 2023 #9
I've been thinking of that scenario as well. MaryMagdaline Jan 2023 #5
But he won't get six Dems to vote for him. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2023 #6
Not brave enough to do it WA-03 Democrat Jan 2023 #7
I'm not interested in having Democrats solve Republican problems. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2023 #8
He tried Orangepeel Jan 2023 #10
Yuuuuge problem: Girard442 Jan 2023 #11
He would be bluffing and his bluff would be called, leaving him weaker than ever. Caliman73 Jan 2023 #12
A Man Would, Sir... The Magistrate Jan 2023 #13
Not happening. Democrats ain't gonna "scab" for that loser. DinahMoeHum Jan 2023 #14
#1 No Dem is going to go along #2 Republicans lie when their lips are moving Hekate Jan 2023 #15
Give them nothing. There was a Dem congress person on Nicolle Wallace saying Dems should Hotler Jan 2023 #16
If he found 6 Dems, he'd lose 100 Republicans tritsofme Jan 2023 #17
THIS! Hortensis Jan 2023 #24
The Never Kevers would love that. They'd spend the next two years calling him a secret Dem, etc. RockRaven Jan 2023 #18
He probably already tried.... Xolodno Jan 2023 #19
Which 6 Dems would be dumb enough to believe he'd follow through on any promises? JHB Jan 2023 #20
On his podcast, Keith Olbermann suggested a deal for McCarthy (aka Fredo) from Jeffries . ificandream Jan 2023 #21
If there were to be a deal Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #22
He literally already tried this. Imperialism Inc. Jan 2023 #23
Democrats would have to tell him to fuck off. Autumn Jan 2023 #25
Repuke heads all over the country would EXPLODE NewDayOranges Jan 2023 #26

Meadowoak

(6,606 posts)
4. Probably couldn't find 6 Dems Stoopid enough to trust him
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 05:54 PM
Jan 2023

Not to knife them in the back, you know, to own the libs.

MaryMagdaline

(7,968 posts)
5. I've been thinking of that scenario as well.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 05:54 PM
Jan 2023

The problem is that NO ONE can trust Kevin to keep his word on anything. Not one single thing. If we gave him 6 votes he could turn around and hand every committee over to the insurrectionists.

BlueTsunami2018

(5,076 posts)
6. But he won't get six Dems to vote for him.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 05:55 PM
Jan 2023

They know it.

They also said they’d rather Jeffries get it than him.

He’s their hostage and they’re not even negotiating, they’re just slowly torturing him to death. They are the BTK caucus. It’s all a big joke to them.

Orangepeel

(13,981 posts)
10. He tried
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 06:05 PM
Jan 2023

Speaking with The Intercept, Ocasio-Cortez said Gaetz told her that House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy — who is vying for the role of House speaker — was trying to convince the GOP he could cut a deal with the Democratic Party to get the job.

In response, Ocasio-Cortez said she told Gaetz that the Democrats would not help McCarthy. McCarthy failed on three separate ballots Tuesday to get the votes he needed to secure the speakership. By the third vote, the number of people voting against him had gone up.

"McCarthy was suggesting he could get Dems to walk away to lower his threshold," Ocasio-Cortez told The Intercept. "And I fact-checked and said absolutely not."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/aoc-says-she-telling-matt-025819345.html

Girard442

(6,917 posts)
11. Yuuuuge problem:
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 06:05 PM
Jan 2023

There aren't any R's anyone can trust. The only deal the D's could ever make with the R's is one where the R's offer up something they can't possibly take back -- like a bunch of R's up and resigning, leaving the D's in the majority.

Disclaimer: I have no idea if that would even work.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
12. He would be bluffing and his bluff would be called, leaving him weaker than ever.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 06:06 PM
Jan 2023

McCarthy cannot secure 6 Democratic votes. His threat would be empty.

There is no reason whatsoever for the Democratic Party to do anything to help McCarthy. He is a worthless POS and deserves every bit of suffering he is going through.

McCarthy is part of the Crazy Caucus. There is no "normal" or "sane" caucus in the Republican Party. There are only the "Overtly Crazy and Ignorant" wing AND the "Slimy, Used Car Salesman" wing of the Crazy Caucus. McCarthy and Jordan belong to the latter and Boebert and Greene to the former.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
15. #1 No Dem is going to go along #2 Republicans lie when their lips are moving
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 06:08 PM
Jan 2023

McCarthy has sold his soul, his spine, and his balls. His own caucus doesn’t believe him. Why should we?

Hotler

(13,747 posts)
16. Give them nothing. There was a Dem congress person on Nicolle Wallace saying Dems should
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 06:10 PM
Jan 2023

consider sharing votes with Kevin. She needs to go sit down. Playing nice and reaching across the isle for too long has help get us here today.

Napoleon Quote: “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. THIS!
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 07:18 PM
Jan 2023

Poetically understated.

139 voted for tRump's coup d'etat, and many others joined later and/or would flee from McCarthy for additional reasons, including virulent anti-Democratic factionalism and concern about their MAGA voters turning on them.

RockRaven

(19,754 posts)
18. The Never Kevers would love that. They'd spend the next two years calling him a secret Dem, etc.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 06:14 PM
Jan 2023

Xolodno

(7,367 posts)
19. He probably already tried....
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 06:15 PM
Jan 2023

...there was some talk the other day.

But he was probably just trying to bribe a few in the purple districts by dangling a few small carrots. But was probably rebuffed and want much more and him to deal directly with Jeffries. Probably a bridge too far for him....for now.

ificandream

(11,851 posts)
21. On his podcast, Keith Olbermann suggested a deal for McCarthy (aka Fredo) from Jeffries .
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 06:23 PM
Jan 2023

Here are Keith's proposals:

1. Six Republicans (McCarthy included) vote to increase the debt ceiling.
2. Change the motion to vacate the chair rule from five members to 225.
3. The reincarnation of the Holman rule by MTG to defund the salaries of anyone trying to investigate Trump is dead.
4. None of the 20 idiots who tried to keep you from being elected (along with MTG) gets a chairmanship or a committee.
5. The Biden impeachment, the laptop committee investigating Hunter Biden, and the investigations of FBI, Twitter, Fauci, all dead.
6. Give four of your friends in the house whatever they want.

Now, the only question, of course, is would McCarthy keep his side of the bargain?

Here's a link to the podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-got-the-solution-to-the-speaker-debacle-1-5-23/id1633301179?i=1000592552498

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
22. If there were to be a deal
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 06:31 PM
Jan 2023

then #2 would be a brain-dead idea on Olbermann's part.

A low threshold for a speaker who is dependant on Democratic votes would be essential for ensuring our party's leverage.

What's Olbermann thinking???

Imperialism Inc.

(2,504 posts)
23. He literally already tried this.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 07:07 PM
Jan 2023

He was lying about having any Democrats who had agreed to vote "present" but he told Gaetz he was going to be able to cut a deal with Democrats.

https://theintercept.com/2023/01/03/kevin-mccarthy-aoc-matt-gaetz-speaker/

NewDayOranges

(751 posts)
26. Repuke heads all over the country would EXPLODE
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 07:32 PM
Jan 2023

if Kevin McCarthy threatened this scenario.

KM would be called a Traitor!

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