Micheal Moore said something on MSNBC that I've been privately thinking since November.

[RandySF]

That it may not take until 2024 before Democrats retake the House.

[MontanaMama]

1. That's an incredible statement.

We are truly in uncharted waters.

[FarPoint]

2. That is what the psychic readers have predicted for 6 months.

[Irish_Dem]

7. Are they predicting how it happens?

[GreenWave]

9. Space alien abductions to a penal planet would be faster

but maybe Jack Smith will lock up a few.

[Irish_Dem]

13. Smart money is on the space aliens.

[FarPoint]

14. I myself am not even close to being psychic

that said...I feel the demise of the GOP House Majority to happen by summer.

[Irish_Dem]

17. I hope you are correct.

They are certainly on a self destructive path.

[FarPoint]

19. I listen to this guy weekly....

Sterling...on YouTube...

He is a tiny snippet he gave ...at around 9:30....

&ab_channel=SterlingPsychicMedium

[Irish_Dem]

21. Thanks, same thing Michael Moore is saying.

[FarPoint]

22. Ohhhhh

December 18, 2022....Lind G and Sterling.....in the first 5 minutes....addressing this issue..

&ab_channel=LindaGtheComanchePsychic

[malaise]

30. Some will also be indicted for their part in the

failed coup

[FarPoint]

53. Prediction for trump ..

In the next 2 weeks ....more raids of stolen documents and WH property ...

[Oneironaut]

75. I know someone who went to a psychic who is now a MAGA nutcase.

She didn’t know, because, the psychic was somewhat normal before. Her predictions were that there would be a Civil War and nuclear war this year of good vs. evil, where the Republicans are the good side.

Trump would lead the charge into battle as the second coming of Jesus vs. the Anti-Christ Biden. Then, as Trump is victorious, all souls will go to heaven for eternity.

I don’t know when the psychic turned batshit crazy, but, I swear MAGA I’d just brainworms in disguise.

[FarPoint]

10. They hint at the indictments of several congress members/GOP

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sometime before summer...Gym Jordan is top of the list...plus Pa. Scott Perry.

They predicted in late November that 2023 Congress will be in total chaos as it is demonstrating now.

[Irish_Dem]

16. Interesting thanks.

I think what is going on now is some attempt to get protection from indictments.
So maybe not too far off a prediction.

[certainot]

60. weren't there guided tours? floor plans? etc

[W_HAMILTON]

32. He said that each House usually loses 10-20 members for various reasons.

Early retirement, indictment, death, etc.

[Irish_Dem]

33. There could be more of those this year.

[FarPoint]

38. Some are saying this stalemate vote with McCarthy....

can go on for months but ..... there is a sense that 5 to 6 moderate republicans will show up for a vote and then leave for maybe an illness or family emergency...then some will just call off sick....leaving Mr. Jefferies become the Speaker....

a passive way to solve the problem.

[Irish_Dem]

41. A couple have already taken off for personal issues.

That would be one way to do it.
And not anger the base.

[FarPoint]

45. It could happen...

[dflprincess]

49. If they leave because of illness I hope their spouse or partner has them covered

because they don't get insurance (or paid) until they're sworn in.

Of course, having big medical bills might be a good lesson though more likely it would only hurt newer members who haven't received their Koch money yet.

[Irish_Dem]

54. We can assume they have received a great deal of financial support.

And I am sure the MOC will back date all benefits and pay.

The insurance companies are not going to cross their benefactors.

[dflprincess]

63. Sad but true

BTW I too could be called an "Irish_Dem". I'm old enough that I was raised to believe that "IrishCatholicDemocrat" was one word. Though I have pretty much dropped the "Catholic" part.

[Irish_Dem]

66. Of course it is one word. :)

I know, the catholic part is hard to claim.
But I am a cultural catholic in minimal ways.
Still say Hail Marys, etc.
And I can still cuss like an Irish Catholic.

[dflprincess]

72. Pretty much the kind of Catholic I am

In a pinch, a Hail Mary always helps!

[Irish_Dem]

73. Exactly. When the chips are down, a Hail Mary saves the day.

[homegirl]

57. Karma

at its best!

[MOMFUDSKI]

11. What happens to an indicted congresscritter?

If they must remove themselves, then there would be enough of them gone to not have the majority in the House which gives us the House, Senate, and Presidency. Anybody?

[wnylib]

31. I don't know for sure, but I think that

just being indicted is not enough reason for them to resign. With Rs in the majority, it's also unlikely that they would be forced to leave. After all, an indictment is not a conviction. Innocent until proven guilty.

After indictment, trials could take until 2024 to play out. So I don't think that it's likely that Rs in Congress will lose a seat before the 2024 elections. Even if convicted before then, there will be appeals and a refusal by the Rs to accept any convictions as valid.

[llmart]

40. On the other hand...

their behavior right now shows that they're a vindictive bunch, so there may be quite a few who would take an indictment as an opportunity to get back at them when this is all said and done.

[FakeNoose]

50. The cool thing about psychics is that almost all of them are liberals

They uniformly hate Chump. I know because I read them too...

[CentralMass]

3. Hmm indictments?

[2naSalit]

12. That's what I'm thinking.

[Omnipresent]

4. If the GQP has a shoot out over the Speakership...

I’m sure there will be casualties, followed by special elections to fill those seats.
Though I kinda doubt it would get that bad.

[Irish_Dem]

20. They got rid of the metal detectors, so who knows what could happen?

[CloudWatcher]

25. +1

[Omnipresent]

58. Maybe Democrats can leave rope and knives...

And then quietly leave the chamber.
What ensues, would be GQP members either stabbing each other in the back, but also having enough rope to hang themselves.

[jcgoldie]

5. Isn't the problem though...

With the extent of gerrymandered districts that gop relies on... it would be pretty unlikely that 4 casualties occur in districts that are actually competitive.

[Demsrule86]

6. We have some special elections and a Democrat died too...as well as the defectors.

[Emile]

8. Gym Jordan is facing jail time.

[moondust]

15. Is that why

he desperately wants to be chairman of the House Judiciary Committee? Does he have a crazy plan to use the position to stay out of jail?

[Irish_Dem]

18. YES. They are all trying to avoid indictment.

That is the whole point of the current stunts.
And the committee assignments, etc.

[DET]

24. I Don't Get It

How can McCarthy protect the insurrectionists against being indicted? Isn’t that up to DOJ?

[Irish_Dem]

27. They want to end the congressional ethics committee.

And it is quite possible the DOJ does not want to indict 20 or more sitting members of congress.
So a deal could be cut in my opinion.

I think a deal may have already been made by McConnell for Cruz and Hawley.

We will see as time goes by what deals have been cut and by whom.

In DC deals are cut all the time to protect and cover for politicians.
It is the way DC works.

[InstantGratification]

68. Possibly

A Judiciary Committee chairman can throw a BIG monkey wrench into an investigation by the DoJ or any other level of government (including state and local). Can you imagine being a prosecutor trying to get a conviction when the Judiciary Committee is intentionally trashing the prosecution? A defense attorney has "reasonable doubt" to present to the jury before the first piece of evidence or the first witness testimony. That is a tough, tough, tough ask.

My take: Jordan isn't just covering his own ass, he wants to flying top cover for all his treasonous co-conspirators.

[bobbyar]

71. won't happen , only sitting prez has immunity!

[lostnfound]

69. Nobody is facing anything...

Prove me wrong. PLEASE, prove me wrong.

[samnsara]

23. oh yeah Ive been thinking..and yelling that..as well. Factor in Santos maybe in jail

..and now someones got dirt on MTG they say will put her in jail..and all the old guys.

[Irish_Dem]

28. Jail doesn't mean they have to resign?

[3Hotdogs]

35. Could Santos fall victim to a request to extradite him to Brazil? As for the other future defendants

Response to indictment requires time. Lots of time with your lawyer.

You could spend your time, trying to stay out of prison or owning lib'tards.

[Irish_Dem]

36. I don't know if a sitting MOC can be extradited?

This should get interesting.

Being indicted doesn't mean they lose their seat.

[3Hotdogs]

37. Extradition involves reciprocal treaties between nations.

They seldom include exceptions. However, the U.K. ambassador's wife who killed the kid... But ambassadors have diplomatic immunity.

[Irish_Dem]

39. Thank you.

But she wasn't the ambassador.

Sitting MOC are US high level federal officials.

They must have some protection from foreign governments.

[bobbyar]

51. In a new york second. It's International Agreements.

Was agreed upon after ww2 internationally. Mainly for hunting down ww2 war criminal's . still stands .

[Irish_Dem]

55. What is the agreement?

[bobbyar]

59. Don't know the exact name of it, I'll try to find the international name.

It was a international treaty on extradition's for war criminals after the Nuremberg trails. was revised to crimanal extradition. I was as a kid big knowing about ww2. Brazil is on that treaty that will extradite to too the U.S.

[Irish_Dem]

64. Thank you, you answered my question.

I just wondered what the agreement was. So there is criminal extradition for sitting US officials?

[bobbyar]

70. yes - donny can be now that he is a private citizen.

[TheBlackAdder]

47. But they would also be incarcerated and not able to perform any functions.

[roamer65]

26. I am hearing rumbles of former Representative Fred Upton from MI as Speaker.

A moderate R that voted to impeach Dump.

Upton said he is “intrigued” by the idea.

[ancianita]

29. Me, too.

Thanks to a number of things, not the least of which will be Jack Smith.

[Kennah]

34. A beer truck wipes out 6 GOOPer Congressional reps in Blue states?

[SheltieLover]

42. Yup. I believe he is correct.

[onenote]

52. How do these vacancies come about?

And what guarantee is there that any vacancies that occur in the repub caucus aren't filled with other repubs?

[onenote]

43. Silly nonsense.

There isn't a scenario where that realistically happens.

[bahboo]

46. yup...wishful thinking I'm afraid...

[obamanut2012]

74. Agree

[Joinfortmill]

48. Yup. Tick Tock

[Evolve Dammit]

56. shit show coming for two years.

[Bluethroughu]

62. Don't get my hopes up!

[UCmeNdc]

65. The Democratic Reps should try to get 10 GOP reps to vote with them.

End the hold up. Plus get a better government than with the crazy Republicans in charge of the house.

[jgo]

67. From the interview it seems that part of what Moore was implying ...

was that some new reps who just won in Biden-leaning districts could switch from R to Independent, and caucus with D. How likely - who knows?

[GoCubsGo]

76. Others are making the same prediction, as well.

All are saying it will happen by this Fall. I'm assuming they mean that indictments are coming. I hope they are right.