Re: Jack Smith

[sheshe2]

Link to tweet

[UTUSN]

1. K&R

[brer cat]

2. "of Congressional members..."

sounds very promising!

[sheshe2]

8. It sure does, brer.

[ShazzieB]

28. Yeah, that part made me go, "Oooh!" 😁

I think it sounds very promising indeed!
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[Vdizzle]

50. Listen to "Ultra". The podcast by Rachel Maddow.

This has happened before. O. John Rogge took about 30 of these bastards to court 80 years ago. They made a circus of things just as they are now.

[onetexan]

53. Dont you love Ultra? So good! Cant wait to see the movie

Rachel is going down as one of the greatest politcal journalist & documentarian ever!

[spanone]

3. ...K&R...

[rubbersole]

4. Oopsie.

Sure would be a bummer to have 6 repub members have to resign (jail) and have the majority in the House become Democratic.

[onetexan]

55. Yup i hope michael moore is right - those insurrectionists got it coming to them.

[Tree Lady]

5. Wow! I hope this scares them!

Maybe why they are rushing tonight to put Kevin in and start unfunding stuff.

[sheshe2]

9. I think you are right.

They can unfund all they want though they can't touch, Jack. He is an independent hire.

[onetexan]

54. LOL i'm sure they w try to investigate the investigator

Like they tried w Mueller.

[PlutosHeart]

49. They will do anything to stop this.

Even rip the country apart stripe by stripe and star by star.
This scares me because it will take them just one day to do that. Not weeks. Not months.
This is the most important job Smith is doing for the whole damned country.
Please be speedy.

[onetexan]

56. Biden's admin is in charge & doj is independent of House oversight

They can & will try every shenanigan for sure. They w not succeed, as they have a very thin margin of control on the house & Biden w not grant pardons. The arc of thebmoral universe is l9ng but it bends towards justice. I hope indictments happen this year for all of them.

[soldierant]

51. Kevin is vulnerable

He's one of the 147 who voted not to certify.

[Cha]

6. Excellent, she... TY & Rt! 💙

[Bev54]

7. I actually got a twitch of excitement with this post!!!

[republianmushroom]

10. we shall see

seems like some should be a slam dunk

but, only time will tell

[PA_jen]

11. Just to clarify when they say Congressional do they mean both House and Senate?

[sheshe2]

12. Don't know, but I found this:

Special counsel Jack Smith bolsters Trump investigation with two corruption experts as 'new phase' ramps up
Story by Tom Boggioni • 13h ago

According to a report from CNN, special counsel Jack Smith has given a signal where his investigation into Donald Trump is going by adding two specialists in public corruption cases to his staff.

Now that Smith, handpicked by Attorney General Merrick Garland to take over the Department of Justice's investigations of the former president, has settled in, CNN is reporting that a "new phase" of heightened scrutiny has also begun.

As the report notes, Smith reached out to two longtime colleagues to be at his "right hand" as the investigation proceeds.

According to CNN, two sources confirmed, "Raymond Hulser, the former chief of the DOJ’s public integrity section, and David Harbach, who conducted cases against former Sen. John Edwards and Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell," are joining the team and that Harbacj has been seen observing ongoing trials involving members of the Proud Boys.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/special-counsel-jack-smith-bolsters-trump-investigation-with-two-corruption-experts-as-new-phase-ramps-up/ar-AA162Mmx?li=BBnb7Kz

[PA_jen]

13. thanks

[Fiendish Thingy]

25. That report says nothing about investigating members of congress. Nt

[sheshe2]

31. You know, you could use google as well.

Read this.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/06/politics/january-6-justice-department-jack-smith-trump-investigation/index.html

There is a lot of info out there and I am just finding news myself. Lots to read.

[msfiddlestix]

60. "A New Phase"

So much to read into those three words. Just like I, and many many others did during the Mueller investigation, at the time.

Deja vu?

Sounds like it to my eyes and ears.

What was that dumbya said to his adoring fans?

"Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”

I don't know if the media is doing this for ratings (likely) but at this point, since the "new phase" hasn't been defined in terms of indictments, charges, prosecutions,guilty verdicts sentencing, then a "new phase" is a misnomer at this point two years later, in my view.

I understand we want to remain optimistic. I certainly wish I could, but false hope is fodder for furthering depression and nurturing apathy. Psychological voter suppression in other words. I firmly believe every time we feel like our peeps are going to save the day for justice and democracy,, and they come up short or take too long, it has a damaging impact on overall enthusiasm.

Lack of faith in our system of governance is what has brought us where we are over the several decades.

In my view. ymmv.

[liberalmuse]

14. I remember Mueller. What a disappointment and travesty of justice that was.

Bush II then Trump stuffed all of our government agencies with as many rabid right wing ideologues as they could. Even President Obama couldn't purge a large number of them, then we had Trump and it got so much worse. I hope Smith is a man who cares about the rule of law applying to everyone, but I'll only believe it when I see justice served.

[MyOwnPeace]

29. "Disappointment" doesn't even come close to describing it........

and it was all 'covered up' and 'shot down' by the AG - BarrBarrHut!

And what was even worse, EVERYBODY just rolled over and played dead - figuring "Oh, well......" - and letting the con continue to happen. The only one who got anything out of the whole thing was DeNiro playing him on SNL...

[FakeNoose]

63. Bill Barr was the reason for most of our disappointment

I think Mueller was on track, but Barr shut him down.

[Evolve Dammit]

67. Will the un-redacted report ever be viewed by "We the People?" Never saw the Iraq torture report,

so I never buy the "transparency" or "no one is above the law" bullshit.

[moonscape]

78. Mueller had to deal with Rosenstein and Barr.

That’s not the situation we have now. And, Mueller was dealing with being told a sitting President couldn’t be indicted.

[asiliveandbreathe]

15. Probably will only know who, and when, when the subpoenas start flying..

I'll take it!! Thanks sheshe2..good to know..may change talk of the day when it happens, if only for a moment..between GAZI this, and GAZI that..

Happy New Year 2023..

[sheshe2]

33. :)

IKR?

Happy New Year to you as well, ailab.

[gademocrat7]

16. K&R!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

17. Investigate, investigate.

BFD. How about indicting, arresting, or convicting?

Investigating means zero if there is no follow up and no consequences.

I'm so fucking sick and tired of all these claims that any day now indictments are coming down, and still zilch. Every day is Fitzmas these days.

[MyOwnPeace]

32. I think they REALLY blew a great opportunity today........

Imagine, on the 2nd anniversary of the Insurrection - the FIRST INDICTMENT is brought on DONALD JOHN TRUMP - charged with TREASON!

Man, those RepubliQan idiots playing games in the House would have just loaded their pants and sat down to cry - and town squares throughout the country would have been having a TGIF that would be remembered for years to come!

[Genki Hikari]

74. The DOJ cannot simply put people on trial

Not for a felony.

They have to convince a grand jury to indict.

I dare you to approach any grand jury member and tell them what to do.

Hint: Attempting to tamper with a grand jury is itself a felony. And you're not in the club to walk from that charge.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

75. Multiple felonies.

So what exactly to people get put on trial for?

When I think about the former convicts who wound up in jail after voting, when they were specifically told they could vote, and Trump is still running around completely free, despite such things as taking classified documents from the White House, well, the mind boggles.

[Upthevibe]

18. Kick. N/T

[niyad]

19. KNR

[babylonsister]

20. Hey, we take over the House once

the chips fall. Delicious!!

[sheshe2]

34. IKR?

[BobTheSubgenius]

21. I bet the nightly consumption of Ambien goes up a lot on K St. and around DC in general.

[nightwing1240]

22. Please let us know when the investigations end and arrests begin

Now that would be news and damn good news at that

[Fiendish Thingy]

23. Is there another source for this report?

I’ve seen numerous reports about Smith adding these two prosecutors, but this unsourced tweet is the first I’ve seen that they have been hired to investigate members of congress.

[sheshe2]

35. Yes.

See post 31 and 12.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

24. Well, I'll still hope but it seems a bit late to be starting investigations of Congress members.

Sometime in 2026 or later, the investigations might yield fruit.

[sheshe2]

36. They aren't just starting.

Google works wonders:

Smith and his new team have inherited the January 6 probe at a crucial juncture, as the public has a better understanding of the lengths the former president and his allies went to try to keep Trump in the Oval Office but also as congressional investigators hit the limits of their powers.

And where the House select committee hit brick walls in its probe – including with recalcitrant witnesses who claimed privileges, or, like Mark Meadows, bailed on cooperating with congressional investigators midway through – DOJ prosecutors now working under Smith will have certain tools to dismantle those barriers. They include ongoing legal proceedings about piercing the shield of confidentially that normally surrounds a president.

The special counsel also has a massive amount of evidence already in-hand that it now needs to comb through, including evidence recently turned over by the House January 6 committee, subpoena documents provided by local officials in key states and discovery collected from lawyers for Trump allies late last year in a flurry of activity, at least some of which has not even been reviewed yet, according to sources familiar with the investigation.

Smith himself sent subpoenas to election officials in seven battleground states and received a trove of material. Included in the response from Michigan’s secretary of state is an email from a county official who was reporting two voicemails they received in December 2020 from individuals seeking access to voting equipment. One callcame from someone claiming to work for Trump’s post-election legal team, the clerk wrote.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/06/politics/january-6-justice-department-jack-smith-trump-investigation/index.html

[Hermit-The-Prog]

38. Thank you. I misread your OP.

[sheshe2]

39. Thanks, Hermit.

We can do this.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

48. I think we've already frustrated Putin, at least

Here's a video of a Russian media broadcast in October:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217267195

The in-the-field reporter warns of anticipating territorial losses through November and December, but then it should turn around. That makes me suspect Poot was counting on a 'red wave' to bring him relief in January. We had enough turnout to thwart that.

We may not see the insurrectionists held accountable soon, but at least aid to Ukraine can't be cut off by the Gangsters Of Putin in the House.

[onetexan]

57. THIS!!☝️

[Joinfortmill]

26. Justice is coming and these traitors know it.

[James48]

27. I never heard of that guy before.

That message was at least several hours old, and nobody else is reporting any investigation of congressmen.

Who is Onthefritz? How does he know?

[dchill]

30. The OnTheFritz Tweet is a screenshot. So..

[sheshe2]

37. Google is your friend.

I have posted several links and excerpts here. Read up thread.

[Better Days Ahoy]

44. Good efforts to lead horses to water

Appreciating your continuing research and posts.
DU is addictive and sometimes seems to be one of the few good resources of info.

And then, aha! -- we realize the info actually comes from SOMEWHERE ELSE. Kind of a window into the world of RWNJs who get all of their info from whichever RWNJ Facebook pages they're lurking on.

Google definitely is our friend.

[crickets]

40. This news definitely makes tonight's proceedings a little easier to take. nt

[mopinko]

41. was wondering today- how long does it usually take to prosecute a case like this?

i know it took yrs to put milosevic in jail. these thing usually take forever.
dont think we should be discouraged.

[sheshe2]

43. Agreed.

Fact is there are too many players to count, both foreign and domestic.

[calimary]

42. Kicking! Get it done, Mr. Smith.

[SunSeeker]

45. YES!!

[Schmice3]

46. Loose bowel time for the traitors

[SheltieLover]

47. Yup. This shit show is not forever!

[ecstatic]

52. Second best news all week. Nt

[Vinca]

58. Now this opens all possibilities. Get a few of the crazies out of the House, call for the election

of a new Speaker and sanity takes control again.

[GreenWave]

59. Are happy days are here again just around the corner?

I will imbibe some alcohol to celebrate when it happens. (Breaking a years ongoing rejection)

[housecat]

61. Smith's plan is coming into focus.

[dalton99a]

62. Hence a new House rule:

[sheshe2]

64. However, read this re The Holman Rule.

https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-holman-rule-will-defund-garlands-special-counsel-1760797

If Republicans manage to reinstate the rule and pass a related amendment in the next Congress, President Joe Biden would still need to sign the attached legislation.

Sarah Binder, political science professor at George Washington University's Columbian College of Arts and Science, told Newsweek that she suspects any Republican attempt to defund the investigation using the rule "would fail."

"It's not clear to me that Republicans would get 218 votes to pass the bill in the first place," Binder said. "Even if the House succeeded, I doubt a Democratic-led Senate would agree to a spending bill that defunds Department of Justice personnel conducting lawful investigations."

Binder said that she also doubted whether "Senate GOP leaders would necessarily back their House colleagues' efforts."

[Irishxs]

65. Finally!!

Finally I think I hear that someone is going to be going after Gym Jordan, Scott Perry, Gosar, and any other members of the House that aided in the coup. Hallelujah !!!!

[Evolve Dammit]

66. Will they comply with subpoenas?? And what will happen if they don't?

[ColinC]

69. It'll be hilarious if they are expecting people to comply with their subpoenas while ignoring others

[Evolve Dammit]

71. I predict Dems will comply as they are legal instruments and Dems believe in the law.

[ColinC]

68. Yeah I think we just miiiiight see a Dem house before the next election

[sheshe2]

70. Be still my heart.

[Sewa]

72. So he's JUST starting to put a team together

Guess there is no such thing as hitting the ground running at the DOJ. Just slow walking 💀🤙

[jaxexpat]

73. Only those members have had over 2 years to bury the evidence.

As a citizen of a civilized nation I would presume the necessary evidence to prosecute would already be in place after that span of time. Every day prosecution is not arresting and jailing for trial is proof I don't live in a civilized nation.

[Kid Berwyn]

76. I like where this is going.

[sheshe2]

77. Now that is priceless!