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Cheezoholic

(2,028 posts)
Sat Jan 7, 2023, 05:57 PM Jan 2023

Why is it when Dems hold the house only, they are portrayed as weak and defeated

yet when the fascists have the house only, especially such a slim margin, its dooms day. I dont get it. These idiots can parade their shit show all they want for 2 years but they won't be able to codify any of it via the Senate and Executive.
I would argue they are as weak as their so called speaker and WE are working from a point of strength.

They can't "damage" the house, those are just rules that can be revoked in 2 years. Sure they can investigate the color of Bidens underwear if they want but c'mon, these dipshits are just going to end up pissing the American people off to no end IMO.

We also need to remember, we only need to get 6 at most repukes to sign off on or stop any legislation for the next 2 years. 6 out of 218, not 20 or 30 or 40 or more as in past congresses. 6 at most, thats it. Even on the debt ceiling. Remember house members by nature are sausage grinders. They answer to a myriad of billion dollar companies especially repukes. those in tight districts will need to be especially careful when it comes to giving or cutting money, which is the strongest leverage the house has. But even that, as we ourselves have found out in the past, isn't the power it's cracked up to be if you have little or no power in the Senate or in the Executive. That's why I'm not totally freaked out about the debt ceiling right now.

We need to operate through the next 2 years from a position of strength, carefully selecting our battles, carefully looking, not necessarily reaching, across the aisle to those who may be vulnerable or even like minded at that particular moment. We need to message that WE aren't being the obstruction every time their in fighting stalls their circus. They have the votes to pass legislation supposedly so let them try, alone and divided. Like the speaker vote, we have no reason to assist in their agenda. If anything, we have the edge in a more "for the people" centered agenda so unless it improves that, fuck 'em. They can't circumnavigate the next 2 hurdles they would need. We have them cornered, forcing them to come up with viable solutions, which, well, ain't gonna happen lol.

I say WE have the advantage here. It's all on them for the next 2 years.

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Why is it when Dems hold the house only, they are portrayed as weak and defeated (Original Post) Cheezoholic Jan 2023 OP
I'm not aware of that portrayal. brooklynite Jan 2023 #1
Corporate Media determines the portrayals. Sneederbunk Jan 2023 #2
Agreed! Plus, the Rs lost their best wedge issue. yardwork Jan 2023 #3
Because of shitty right wing propaganda. Initech Jan 2023 #4
I agree with most of what you said. Claustrum Jan 2023 #5
The goal should be to run their side the way newt and delay used to... Volaris Jan 2023 #6

brooklynite

(94,635 posts)
1. I'm not aware of that portrayal.
Sat Jan 7, 2023, 06:01 PM
Jan 2023

Nor am I aware of anyone suggesting the Republic House win was something notable.

yardwork

(61,676 posts)
3. Agreed! Plus, the Rs lost their best wedge issue.
Sat Jan 7, 2023, 06:02 PM
Jan 2023

The Republican Party will rue the day the Supreme Court overturned Rowe v Wade.

Initech

(100,088 posts)
4. Because of shitty right wing propaganda.
Sat Jan 7, 2023, 06:04 PM
Jan 2023

I don’t know how many times I have to repeat this but the propaganda is a MASSIVE part of how the US got to where we currently are. They have shitheads on TV, radio, the internet, and in church feeding them nothing but hate, lies, and bullshit 24 hours a day and it’s scrambling people’s brains and turning them into mush. It ultimately cultivated into the events of January 6th and is currently protecting those who committed those crimes. If we are to get anywhere in this country, we have to realize the damage that 24/7 right wing propaganda is doing to this country.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
5. I agree with most of what you said.
Sat Jan 7, 2023, 06:33 PM
Jan 2023

Though, there is a huge difference between a democratic House and a republican one. Democrats believe in the government and want it to work so we never use the debt ceiling as a tool for political power. Republicans, on the other hand, are more than willing to do it. And if they are crazy enough to actually default on it, then it will send shockwaves to economies around the world.

But for everything else, I do think it's being overblown by people here and the MSM. The republican house couldn't do much outside of their spectacles, and if those spectacles will lead to a win for republicans in 2024 (not saying it will). But their obstructions did gain them votes back in 2010.

Volaris

(10,273 posts)
6. The goal should be to run their side the way newt and delay used to...
Sat Jan 7, 2023, 07:02 PM
Jan 2023

You're right it's only 6.
Next time, it will be a different 6 (cause it's a different bill), and you're off the hook.

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