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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSome Democrats fear a mass shooting on House floor -- by a QAnon-Republican
Surprise quickly morphed into alarm for some at the Capitol this week as a post-Jan. 6 security measure vanished without warning just before Republicans reclaimed control of the House. Some Democrats fear there could be a mass shooting on the House floor at the trigger of one of the GOPs newly expanded ranks of conspiracy-believing lawmakers.
A lot of my Republican colleagues glorify violence and proudly display the firearms they have in their offices, so it just makes me nervous that we could have a workplace violent event. Theyre not the most stable people, Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) told Raw Story after voting for Speaker this week.
The airport-esque contraptionstechnically, magnetometerssurrounded the House chamber since the mob of Trump supporters violently attempted to take over the historic chamber on Jan. 6, 2021. In their two-year stint as beeping plastic monuments to a failed coup, they were cursed, mocked, and even sued by lawmakers.
They also stopped at least one gun from entering the House chamber. Soon after the extra security went up, Rep. Andy Harris (R-MD) set the metal detectors off before ditching the weapon, though likely others did too, as many Republicans initially refused to comply.
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/eric-swallwell-other-house-dems-reportedly-fear-potential-mass-shooting-by-qanon-republican-after-removal-of-metal-detectors/
RockRaven
(19,362 posts)it is a question of when, not if.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Srkdqltr
(9,758 posts)That's scary as . Well just scary.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)and insurrectionists who are angry because they are facing indictments. There are no more gatekeepers as before. Some are still after Nancy.
Maraya1969
(23,495 posts)tritsofme
(19,899 posts)MagickMuffin
(18,318 posts)This statement sent chills through my very core. Not only do House Democrats have to worry about their colleagues they also have to worry about the crazies that were part of the insurrection.
And I remember the State Capitols where citizens were allowed in with their guns.
Cha
(319,058 posts)Capitol Police to be on High Alert ‼️
I Hope this guy Blows in their face
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)It was closed due to the pandemic.
It's just lies that they love to spread that it was "closed to visitors."
Also the waitlist for tours is pretty long, it's rare to be able to get a tour if you show up in person (but not impossible if people don't show for their reservation).
moondust
(21,286 posts)by the mere sight of a death tool may face a "penalty."
Irish_Dem
(81,242 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)Ford_Prefect
(8,610 posts)The people who know this is dangerous already have said so.
Those who will not foreswear violence and armed action are now in charge of the People's House.
They esteem themselves as lords of chaos. They have no idea what they will enable in so doing. Chaos by its very nature cannot be ruled, only ignited. I keep seeing James Cagney in White Heat as he shoots the fuel tank he's standing on and yells, "Made it, Ma! Top of the world!" as it explodes. That is the kind of madness now in charge of Congress.
Like their failed leader they howl and prance about threatening everyone with their bottled anger.
Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)FloridaBlues
(4,668 posts)maxrandb
(17,425 posts)Ventilation not required.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)Anyone even brandishing commits assault and should be arrested and removed.
If Capitol Police can prohibit all kinds of things on the Capitol grounds by the public, they sure should prohibit congress people from carrying anything like a weapon into the People's House and Senate chambers.
https://www.uscp.gov/visiting-capitol-hill/regulations-prohibitions/prohibited-items
Groundhawg
(1,218 posts)wnylib
(26,008 posts)removed the magnetometers. So it is easy now for the MAGA gun supporters to carry them into the House undetected. And you know that they will. They tried to do it even when the magnetometers were in place.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/05/republicans-control-house-security-measures-capitol-attack
Groundhawg
(1,218 posts)wnylib
(26,008 posts)to enter the Capitol by force and threaten members of Congress. And yet it happened.
The point is that just because an action is illegal does not mean that people won't do it. Therefore, the magnetometers were installed to prevent people from bringing guns onto the floor of the House. Now that they have been removed, there is a greater likelihood of some House members carrying guns and endangering the lives of other members and their staff.
Blue Owl
(59,084 posts)Behavior like that doesn't exactly inspire confidence...
Liberal In Texas
(16,269 posts)It's only a question of WHEN somebody gets pissed-off enough to shoot somebody.
And they still will probably not want the metal detectors put back in place.
MontanaMama
(24,721 posts)for what members of congress who gave reconnoissance tours prior to J6, Id say its not ridiculous to be concerned about this possibility. No metal detectors any more either.
LowerManhattanite
(2,433 posts)
theatrically pull out a gun and lay it down loudly on a lectern to make their little 2nd Amendment point in a speech to scare fellow Reps.
These people aint well though.
The Gosars. The Rogerswholl try to attack a fellow member. The Boeberts, etc. Theyll do this.
And Im guessing one of these goofy freshmen who coasted in on MAGAT winds will probably do even MORE.
Id imagine some progressive members will start wearing Kevlar vests to protect themselves.
God help us all.
GoCubsGo
(34,908 posts)Looks to me like they're achieving that goal. No doubt they want to scare the Dems into not showing up to their jobs. Bullies gotta bully. I hope the Dems stand up to this shit. If I were them, I would be showing up with one of my own, and not a handgun, either.
marmar
(79,733 posts)kimbutgar
(27,248 posts)The Q repukes are very unstable and I dont trust them one bit.
elleng
(141,926 posts)jmowreader
(53,190 posts)In the 75th Rangers they teach you how to kill people with anything handy. He probably never dreamed hed have to use that training in Congress but here we are.
The Grand Illuminist
(2,038 posts)It is becoming that reps will live paycheck to paycheck due to the private security they have to pay out of pocket.
Sympthsical
(10,966 posts)Freedom of Association.
The Grand Illuminist
(2,038 posts)My bad
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)And they're on the same side.
Bettie
(19,702 posts)before too long.
The "no impulse control" caucus is in charge.
roamer65
(37,953 posts)1978. San Francisco.
Dan White, the murderer, was a RW nut job on the SF Board of Supervisors.
Its possible, sadly.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)They were already having a fight with each other during the vote. Time for bullet proof vests and helmets maybe. Ugh
GenThePerservering
(3,367 posts)I agree with @gocubsgo. The last thing the Dems should be doing is expressing the slightest particle of fear or intimidation of these magat rat-bastards. Never, never, never show fear - they can smell it.
This does not mean not being on high alert, arming one's self, being aware, taking measures that one can, but a position of strength must be held and seen to be held. I don't like this "makes me nervous" rhetoric and all this whittering about the metal detectors being taken down. Make those jokes about the magats wanting to have their own gun show in the chamber - bring more popcorn, jeer at them. These are cowards and bullies, not people of strength.