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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs George Santos A US Citizen?
Holy shit how hard is it to find out? If he was born in NY he worked in Brazil for many years, so did he have a passport? How hard is it to find that out?
I understand that he is being investigated but investigations into Republicans take a very long time.
If Santos was naturalized it takes 7 years before he can run for office.
Holy hell, president Barack Obama produced his legal birth certificate and his long form birth certificate, where is the clamor to see Santos' proof of citizenship? Are any members of the Democratic party asking to see his bc?
https://cis.org/North/CongressmanElect-George-Santos-RNY-US-Citizen
If Santos is not eligible for office then his vote for Kevin doesn't count.
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gab13by13
(32,324 posts)I just heard Barbara McQuade say that Santos is a national security threat just because he has been caught lying so many times about himself.
The freaking republican party bitched about Obama being a citizen for 8 years and when he produced the documentation they called it a forgery.
Simple questions;
1. Produce a birth certificate
2. Produce proof of naturalization.
The wait and see crowd goes to bed early but if they were around I'm sure that they would be saying to relax, he is being investigated.
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Bev54
(13,431 posts)they are not going to come out and tell everyone just because the public is curious. We will only learn through indictments or court hearings what they find.
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Bev54
(13,431 posts)They will only tell us illegal activities through court hearing or indictments.
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(7,162 posts)Response to reACTIONary (Reply #30)
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reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)... tell you anything about their investigation, especially if it does not turn up any evidence of a crime. You know, like grand jury proceedings being secret. That's basically the way it should be.
As far as what a politician owes to the public, that's up to those who are voting for or against him. Personally, I wouldn't vote for this guy no matter what he said or didn't say.
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(7,162 posts)Response to Chin music (Reply #20)
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reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)... in an ICE detention facility right now.
reACTIONary
(7,162 posts).... investigated by several law enforcement agencies. They have access to all of the official records. Birth records. Passport and visa. Immigration and naturalization.
If he wasn't a citizen he would be in a ICE detention center right now awaiting deportation.
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montanacowboy
(6,714 posts)how hard is that to do? why isn't someone doing it? Democrats???????????
gab13by13
(32,324 posts)it's from Daily Kos. I guess it's hard to find out if someone has a bc in NY, but it shouldn't be hard for law enforcement. If he was born in the US then when he went to work in Brazil he would have to have a US passport.
reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)Exactly right!
reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)... being investigated by several law enforcement agencies. They have access to all of the official records. Birth records. Passport and visa. Immigration and naturalization.
If he wasn't a citizen he would be in a ICE detention center right now awaiting deportation.
dalton99a
(94,129 posts)His silence is telling.
gab13by13
(32,324 posts)he has to wait 7 years before he can run for office.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,250 posts)not sure what's true though. he does have the accent of someone raised in US
reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)... said he was born in the united states, and no one in authority has disputed that. He is being investigated by several law enforcement agencies. They have access to all of the official records. Birth records. Passport and visa. Immigration and naturalization.
If he wasn't a citizen he would be in a ICE detention center right now awaiting deportation.
NBachers
(19,438 posts)gab13by13
(32,324 posts)One of the Birthers put up a huge billboard in his yard beside the highway, it said, Where's your Birth certificate. After Obama produced both his legal one and his long form one they changed the billboard a little to Where's the Real birth certificate.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,250 posts)but MAGAs consider Trump to be all American.
Quakerfriend
(5,882 posts)How hard is it to find out??
Im feeling more and more disheartened by the lack of reasonably swift action on all the criminality.
And, this fraud giving the white power sign
gab13by13
(32,324 posts)reACTIONary
(7,162 posts).... He is being investigated by several law enforcement agencies. They have access to all of the official records. Birth records. Passport and visa applications, and issuances. Immigration and naturalization.
If he wasn't a citizen he would be in a ICE detention center right now awaiting deportation.
Botany
(77,324 posts)I smell Russian "troll bomb" all over him. I hope the DoJ gets him ASAP and helps to
extradite back to Brazil to face charges on what he did there.
gab13by13
(32,324 posts)Rhiannon12866
(255,538 posts)Is George Santos is real name, and if not, what is it? And is he a citizen? He's already lied about pretty much everything...
Kid Berwyn
(24,395 posts)Russian Oligarchs Cousin Funneled Cash to N.Y. Politician
FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
Andrew Intrater, money manager to Russian Viktor Vekselberg, gave $56,100 to committees tied to Rep.-elect George Devolder-Santos, who called Ukraine totalitarian.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/republican-george-devolder-santos-got-cash-from-andrew-intrater-cousin-of-russian-oligarch-viktor-vekselberg
Botany
(77,324 posts)... he should be picked up .... from the floor of the House would be nice ... brought in for hard questioning
by the CIA/FBI/NSA and then extradited to Brazil to face trial for his crimes there. We let Russia get away
with installing Trump enough is enough.
* I think.
gab13by13
(32,324 posts)if it is found out that Santos is not a US citizen, it should have been found out before he voted for Kevin.
mn9driver
(4,848 posts)Surely he has one of those.
reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)... He is being investigated by several law enforcement agencies. They have access to all of the official records. Birth records. Passport and visa applications, and issuances. Immigration and naturalization.
If he wasn't a citizen he would be in a ICE detention center right now awaiting deportation.
OMGWTF
(5,131 posts)Deuxcents
(26,918 posts)All the tech sleuthing should be able to take up this challenge
reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)... being investigated by several law enforcement agencies. They have access to all of the official records. Birth records. Passport and visa. Immigration and naturalization.
If he wasn't a citizen he would be in a ICE detention center right now awaiting deportation.
Arazi
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reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)jmowreader
(53,194 posts)If he isnt a citizen, not only does it negate his vote but it reduces the number of votes Kevin needed by one. So its still okay.
Iggo
(49,928 posts)Its only wrong when THEY do it!
Yeah!
reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)dalton99a
(94,129 posts)What prevents him from answering these basic questions:
"Are you a U.S. citizen? When did you get naturalized?"
reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)dalton99a
(94,129 posts)You're ok with some unknown guy sitting in Congress collecting a federal paycheck and voting on legislation?
reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)... "What prevents him from answering these basic questions: "Are you a U.S. citizen? When did you get naturalized?"
And after finding out that he did answer them, you decide not to believe him? Well, OK, but then why did you want him to make a statement the first place?
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LetMyPeopleVote
(179,869 posts)onenote
(46,142 posts)People are suggesting the FBI should be investigating his citizenship. Based on internet speculation?
There are plenty of lies for which there is actual evidence. Some of the posts in this thread read like Freeper posts during the Obama years.
reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)... Exactly.
dalton99a
(94,129 posts)onenote
(46,142 posts)of anything and everything, especially when no charges have been brought with respect to the lies as yet.
dembotoz
(16,922 posts)he is a citizen...period.
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