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Is this what caused Matt Gaetz to change his vote? (Original Post) Kingofalldems Jan 2023 OP
Interesting eye movements and facial expressions. nilram Jan 2023 #1
When you're a scumbag True Dough Jan 2023 #2
We have three dweller Jan 2023 #3
Here's what was *really* said 😂 Nevilledog Jan 2023 #30
+100! Rhiannon12866 Jan 2023 #33
Hilarious! rubbersole Jan 2023 #35
Oh, "Bad Lip Reading" of course! soldierant Jan 2023 #40
So funny Bristlecone Jan 2023 #44
Fabulous! betsuni Jan 2023 #46
!! 2naSalit Jan 2023 #49
they got him out of the frying pan cause they needed the nos and then threatened to put him back in certainot Jan 2023 #37
Not a happy face. 3catwoman3 Jan 2023 #4
👍 Joinfortmill Jan 2023 #6
Wow Joinfortmill Jan 2023 #5
Trumplican Blackmail. "We have the goods on you, Matt" Murphyb849 Jan 2023 #7
Love The Godfather music. Funtatlaguy Jan 2023 #8
We'll Cawthorn you. MerryBlooms Jan 2023 #9
Good one!! Cha Jan 2023 #11
TY.. Does anyone know Why Rogers Cha Jan 2023 #10
He just has that kind of face Retrograde Jan 2023 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #27
hmm.... bdamomma Jan 2023 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author mitch96 Jan 2023 #21
I think it was Kevin that did it Kennah Jan 2023 #13
Here it is Kennah Jan 2023 #15
No dweller Jan 2023 #16
I think that's Rep Tim Burchett, but he said on CNN (I think), Gaetz and McCarthy reached agreement Kennah Jan 2023 #17
Couldn't be Tim Burchett. summer_in_TX Jan 2023 #31
Here he is on CNN with Jim Acosta Kennah Jan 2023 #34
You don't see it in the United States ANY MORE soldierant Jan 2023 #41
It was Burchett blogslug Jan 2023 #38
The hair color is so different. summer_in_TX Jan 2023 #45
It's Burchett blogslug Jan 2023 #50
Ah, that makes sense. summer_in_TX Jan 2023 #54
I think he used to dye his hair, but it was the guy Rudy used Kennah Jan 2023 #52
Thank you, this should be a fresh OP. nt CoopersDad Jan 2023 #51
At first I thought the guy was sucking Mattie's face. When the guy moved, Mattie looked terrified. debm55 Jan 2023 #14
Didn't like the taste of make-up ! bobbyar Jan 2023 #25
My seminal fluid DNA on three different petticoats... now how did that ever get there ? magicarpet Jan 2023 #18
He didn't vote for McCarthy. He voted present. Same as on the 14th ballot. onenote Jan 2023 #19
Yes McCarthy did not have a clear majority. He won by attrition. cutroot Jan 2023 #29
You've been given an offer that you can't refuse. Xolodno Jan 2023 #22
That's Matt being told that they have all the pictures, all the paperwork, all the money transfers. CoopersDad Jan 2023 #23
Except he still didn't vote for McCarthy on the 14th ballot, forcing yet another ballot onenote Jan 2023 #32
Cabbage/Cow story? czarjak Jan 2023 #24
I believe that it's Burchett and he's sympathetic to Gaetz Renew Deal Jan 2023 #26
Reminding him that Epstein didn't kill himself IronLionZion Jan 2023 #28
Maybe they told him Bill Barr wanted him to come over for drinks and a home movie. rubbersole Jan 2023 #36
Ok if we have to decide ( ignoring ALL past) . McCarthy Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #39
He didn't change his vote, he still voted present, but the 4 who voted for others on round 14 DID Celerity Jan 2023 #42
Why Did The Remaining 4 Agree To Vote Present? SoCalDavidS Jan 2023 #47
He agreed to every single demand they had, including some choice sub committee assignments/chairs Celerity Jan 2023 #48
giving Matt a kiss with some tongue pate !!!!! Trueblue1968 Jan 2023 #43
Gaetz was always for sale to the best offer, and that of course Hortensis Jan 2023 #53

dweller

(23,671 posts)
3. We have three
Sat Jan 7, 2023, 10:51 PM
Jan 2023

Count them Beavis … 1 , 2 , 3 underage high school coeds with your traces on their dresses … and they will be speaking up, with that evidence shortly … unless you do ‘the right thing’ …
Count the claps on your shoulder … it’s your warning …


✌🏻

soldierant

(6,937 posts)
40. Oh, "Bad Lip Reading" of course!
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 12:59 AM
Jan 2023

At first I thought it might be by "Real Subtitles?"

Except I've only seen them do English subtitles for Russian.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
37. they got him out of the frying pan cause they needed the nos and then threatened to put him back in
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 12:42 AM
Jan 2023

Cha

(297,763 posts)
10. TY.. Does anyone know Why Rogers
Sat Jan 7, 2023, 11:01 PM
Jan 2023

wanted to Attack Matts?

I just saw the clip.... whatever was said.. matt said "OK". & who was it whispering in his ear?

Retrograde

(10,162 posts)
20. He just has that kind of face
Sat Jan 7, 2023, 11:31 PM
Jan 2023

Matty, that is. I'd want to attack him too if he weren't that much taller than me (and I could stand to be in the same county - much less the same room)

Response to Cha (Reply #10)

Response to bdamomma (Reply #12)

Kennah

(14,325 posts)
13. I think it was Kevin that did it
Sat Jan 7, 2023, 11:06 PM
Jan 2023

There was a seemingly cordial verbal exchange between Kevin and Matt, during the motion to adjourn vote, there seemed to be nods of agreement and friendly arm pats, then Kevin turned and went straight away to change his vote on the motion to adjourn while voting was still open. He was motioning to others and more GOOPs picked up red cards, which I believe were submissions to change their vote. The Nays began rising while the Yays began falling. Whatever it was, the moment appeared to be between Kevin and Matt.

Kennah

(14,325 posts)
17. I think that's Rep Tim Burchett, but he said on CNN (I think), Gaetz and McCarthy reached agreement
Sat Jan 7, 2023, 11:19 PM
Jan 2023

soldierant

(6,937 posts)
41. You don't see it in the United States ANY MORE
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 01:04 AM
Jan 2023

There were times in our history when it wasi pretty common. Looks like we're headed for another one of those tmes.

blogslug

(38,019 posts)
38. It was Burchett
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 12:51 AM
Jan 2023

I watched that moment happen live. When I saw it, it looked threatening but after Burchett said whatever he said, he sat back down right next to Gaetz and Boebert.

summer_in_TX

(2,759 posts)
45. The hair color is so different.
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 01:38 AM
Jan 2023
https://imgur.com/J6iMTZJ
Burchett has grizzled brown hair and beard.

https://imgur.com/qUVnx3q
The mystery man is silver haired.

The glasses are similar, the beard on the silver-haired guy is hard to make out, silver hairs show, but it could be grizzled.

blogslug

(38,019 posts)
50. It's Burchett
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 03:14 AM
Jan 2023

The lights bouncing off the back of his head emphasize the silver threads among the dishwater.

debm55

(25,507 posts)
14. At first I thought the guy was sucking Mattie's face. When the guy moved, Mattie looked terrified.
Sat Jan 7, 2023, 11:07 PM
Jan 2023

Loved the Godfather theme background.

magicarpet

(14,181 posts)
18. My seminal fluid DNA on three different petticoats... now how did that ever get there ?
Sat Jan 7, 2023, 11:20 PM
Jan 2023

Ob my,... this is even worse than that Lewinsky/Bill Clinton thing.

onenote

(42,778 posts)
19. He didn't vote for McCarthy. He voted present. Same as on the 14th ballot.
Sat Jan 7, 2023, 11:24 PM
Jan 2023

And McCarthy wins the speakership regardless of how Gaetz voted. He could've cast another vote for Trump and McCarthy would still have won on the 15th ballot. He could have not shown up to vote at all and McCarthy wins.

The discussion between McCarthy and Gaetz occurred during the 14th vote. McCarthy voted present. If he had voted for McCarthy, McCarthy would have won on that ballot. And he continued to vote present on the 15th ballot, when it didn't matter how he voted.

CoopersDad

(2,198 posts)
23. That's Matt being told that they have all the pictures, all the paperwork, all the money transfers.
Sat Jan 7, 2023, 11:42 PM
Jan 2023

That's Matt being told that they have all the pictures, all the paperwork, all the money transfers. And it's all coming out if he doesn't change his vote.

onenote

(42,778 posts)
32. Except he still didn't vote for McCarthy on the 14th ballot, forcing yet another ballot
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 12:15 AM
Jan 2023

And on the 15th, his vote no longer mattered.

Renew Deal

(81,879 posts)
26. I believe that it's Burchett and he's sympathetic to Gaetz
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 12:06 AM
Jan 2023

Here’s a video from today.



There are some quote floating around from Burchett about Rogers being a hot head and this isn’t his first time threatening people. Rogers is the one that lunges at Gaetz.

Celerity

(43,578 posts)
42. He didn't change his vote, he still voted present, but the 4 who voted for others on round 14 DID
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 01:10 AM
Jan 2023

change, to present. BoBo also did not change, she was a present vote on rounds 14 and 15.

6 Presents,

216 for McCarthy,

212 for Jeffries

428 total votes


McCarthy thus needed 215, so clinched it with one vote to spare

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
47. Why Did The Remaining 4 Agree To Vote Present?
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 02:16 AM
Jan 2023

I thought they were so opposed to McCarthy, and when they voted Present, it enabled him to win.

The whole thing seemed like theatrics. Makes me wonder why I bother to watch this garbage.

Celerity

(43,578 posts)
48. He agreed to every single demand they had, including some choice sub committee assignments/chairs
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 02:20 AM
Jan 2023

It is going to be a shitshow.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
53. Gaetz was always for sale to the best offer, and that of course
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 05:03 PM
Jan 2023

had to be from whoever turned out to be winning. Political pros could have written his part days ago, just leaving a blank for name of speaker.

Of the 20 or 21, including the 6 "nevers," in the end THREE still stood against McCarthy. And they were among the worst institution-burning extremists, hardly their best. What a party.

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