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babylonsister

(172,760 posts)
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 06:13 PM Jan 2023

The Rude Pundit: We Still Haven't Left January 6th

https://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2023/01/we-still-havent-left-january-6th.html

The Rude Pundit
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1/08/2023
We Still Haven't Left January 6th

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In so many ways, we've never left January 6, 2021 in this America, where we've been damned to watch the blatantly guilty run free and propagate their evil madness, acting as if their advocacy for and/or participation in an attempted coup is merely free speech and not an attempt to squelch and eliminate the purest expression of our free speech: voting. 

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That’s on everyone involved in investigations. Barring some startling round of indictments, they’ve blown it. The lugubrious pace of the January 6th Committee and the Justice Department’s investigation has allowed those who took part in planning and propagating the coup attempt to emerge not only unscathed, but in the case of the House Republicans who couped the shit out of the Congress, emboldened by now being in the majority. And, as I have warned repeatedly, the stupidly named Freedom Caucus and its stupid, grunting whore members are threatening to use every means they have to hamstring or halt the prosecution of, well, fuck, any of themselves or anyone else like, you know, Trump.

This perverse idea that because we’ve never arrested and prosecuted a president, we must be extra super-duper careful is worthless. Just because you never did something before doesn’t mean that you proceed with so much caution that you end up not bothering to do it. The republic will not fall to pieces, no matter what the Chicken Littles of the punditocracy say. Indeed, it says something about the strength of a country if it can confidently prosecute a former leader for trying to steal an election.

Worst of all, they have allowed the small cabal of the maddest Trumpinistas to give the former president (that’s right – Donald Trump was once president of the United States. Fucks you up when you think about it, doesn’t it?) continued power. The timidity with which Trump has been handled would be laughable if it weren’t so dangerous. I mean, he held a rally at the US Capitol to protest the legitimacy of the election. He invited his idiot hordes to join him in marching on the Capitol. I’ve said it a thousand times and I’ll say it a thousand more: I will never understand why Trump wasn’t cuffed and dragged out of the White House on January 6, 2021. I will never understand why the niceties of an impeachment took precedence over law enforcement when he so clearly broke the law. And you can say he has a First Amendment right to say the crazy shit he says, but, and I say this again for the fuckteenth time, the First Amendment is not a suicide pact. 

As demonstrated by delirious debacle of voting pudding-brained Kevin McCarthy in as Speaker of the House on the 15th attempt, the newly emboldened House Nutzoid Caucus, promised everything from Marjorie Taylor Greene getting her toys licked by McCarthy to Matt Gaetz getting to watch when McCarthy blows Nestor to Lauren Boebert getting to ream McCarthy out with her rifle, are going to attempt to destroy shit because that’s all they know how to do. And no one has made them pay a price. So we all pay the price in watching those we know should have been arrested two years ago flaunting their freedom in our flustered faces. It will never not be January 6, 2021 until they pay.
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brush

(61,033 posts)
1. I agreed with most of what's said, however the J6 Committee...
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 06:29 PM
Jan 2023

has done a wonderful and thorough job of investigating and exposing the culprits who were responsible for the attempted coup. House committees don't have arresting and indicting power so it up the DOJ to do what needs to be done.

The DOJ has moved at a lugubrious pace as you state. trump and many of the rest of his cabal should've been indicted, tried and jailed months ago. And if nothing happens to the insurrectionists, this nation's disintegration will commence.

CrispyQ

(40,970 posts)
4. Strike while the iron is hot.
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 06:42 PM
Jan 2023

J6 needed a thorough investigation but the stolen documents? That was a slam dunk but he's still walking free, holding rallies, & lying about 2020. Oh, & running for prez again. JFC.

Our side has too much reverence for the office of the president, too much fear of the media calling us partisan, & too little fight. I think the DOJ is going to leave it to the voters to make sure Trump never resides in the WH again. Same for the traitors in Congress. The voters will have to vote them out, & if they don't, so be it, the DOJ isn't going to go after them.

FakeNoose

(41,640 posts)
5. Everyone is forgetting that Biden and Garland had an agreement
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 07:10 PM
Jan 2023

... that Garland would "slow-walk" the January 6th investigation until after the midterms. Garland never sat on it, he just kept it under wraps while all the other stuff (including the House J-6 committee) played out. So OK the midterms are done, and Garland isn't slow-walking it now. In fact he has appointed Jack Smith as special prosecutor, and Mr. Smith is flooring it.

This is the year of Jack Smith, and we're going to see some action, so hold onto your hats.

FakeNoose

(41,640 posts)
8. Maybe you're missing the point?
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 07:32 PM
Jan 2023

Biden knew that Garland wanted to go after all the Repukes but it's a political hot potato. He (Biden) had a jam-packed agenda of bills he wanted passed in his 1st and 2nd year, and he knew that the Repukes would fight him over everything. If there were any chance of getting cooperation from the Repukes, they had to slow-walk the investigation of the coup attempt. That doesn't mean that either Biden or Garland wanted to drop any of it. Garland wasn't interested in politics, but Biden was, and is.

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mjvpi

(1,931 posts)
11. Personally, I agree with the reasoning that you are expressing, but......
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 08:00 PM
Jan 2023

…….where did you learn of this "agreement ". I think that President Biden has gone out of his way to not exert any influence over the AG as a marked contrast to the Trump/Barr shit show. Where are the facts, please?

babylonsister

(172,760 posts)
14. Investigation was slow-walked?
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 08:35 PM
Jan 2023

I'm glad it was so thorough. Roll that tape... there's lots there for Mr. Smith. Fingers crossed.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
16. Interesting theory. Do you have links to back it up?
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 08:58 PM
Jan 2023

Or is it just your opinion?

That's perfectly ok if it is just speculation...I think your reasoning is good. Just want to make it clear.

Thanks!

yankee87

(2,825 posts)
9. Jack Smith
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 07:39 PM
Jan 2023

While Jack Smith will indict and prosecute some of the insurrection criminals, it’s over two years now. Maybe I’m just old and set in my ways, but I remember about how justice delayed, wasn’t acceptable. We all know, those who asked for pardons are guilty, but will anything happen to them?
I hope l’m wrong, but I believe they will get away with their crimes.

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
18. Where does info on this agreement come from?
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 09:12 PM
Jan 2023

I do not recall hearing about it. And why would Biden have made such an agreement?

If such an agreement was made, then I hope that the prosecutions begin quickly. As I am pretty fed up. Like so many of us.

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
12. Lots of talk of 287 dimension chess, but to me....
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 08:25 PM
Jan 2023

it looks worse than the Weimar Republic's prosecution of the beer hall putsch. At least Hitler went to jail for five years after leading an armed insurrection. Donnie of Orange and his congressional henchpeople? Not so much. Some embarrassing moments on the TEE VEE from the Jan 6 commission, but that's about it so far. Hate to keep going back to this, but I wonder how quickly Donnie and his motley crew would have been indicted and prosecuted if they were all minorities? Fair question I think.

Septua

(2,957 posts)
19. "This perverse idea that because we've never arrested and prosecuted a president..."
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 09:41 PM
Jan 2023

I'm beyond tired of hearing that point of concern relative to prosecuting Trump. We've never had a fucking President like Donald Trump, who is the epitome; the pinnacle; the embodiment of scandalous perversion.

It is incomprehensible to me that the powers to be can't make that distinction.

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