U.S. lawmaker calls for extraditing 'dangerous' Bolsonaro from Florida

[RandySF]

Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-Texas) said Sunday that ousted Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro should be extradited from Florida after his radical supporters attacked key government institutions in Brasília over the weekend following his election loss.

“Jair Bolsonaro is in Florida, hanging out with Donald Trump,” Castro said during an appearance on CNN. “He’s a dangerous man. They should send him back to his home country of Brazil.”

Castro also said Bolsonaro “used the Trump playbook” to inspire the attacks and that former Trump aides, like Stephen K. Bannon and Stephen Miller have been “trying to spread what is really an authoritarian fascist movement and inspire domestic terrorism in other countries around the world. And Brazil is one example of that.”




https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/01/08/bolsonaro-supporters-brazil-congress/#link-QSYPO4DWFZCHDHRM2M7GRTLQLE

[Lovie777]

1. He's still in Florida?....

[peppertree]

8. And interestingly - so is Anderson Torres, Brasilia's (now former) Security Minister

Torres and Governor Ibaneis Rocha are both close allies of Bolsonaro (especially the former).

Torres has now been fired by Rocha - but only after President Lula da Silva ordered the city's security forces be places under federal receivership.

There's every reason to believe both men conspired to keep police out of the way just before the insurrection (Brasilia, like most Brazilian cities, suffers from high crime rates - and is normally heavily policed).

Rocha and Torres had earlier come under fire for banning the sale of water for supporters of Lula de Silva during the latter's inaugural on New Year's Day - with temperatures well over 100°.

Any resemblances to today's GOP are pure conicidence.

[brooklynite]

2. That's not how extradition works...

You need to be facing criminal prosecution in other country.

[Beartracks]

13. Just fly Bolsonaro to somewhere else. Stick him on a plane, tell him he's going somewhere nice.

It doesn't have to be "extradition."

Hm, this kind of thing sounds familiar.

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[Eyeball_Kid]

22. How about the Bermuda Triangle? n/t

[FoxNewsSucks]

28. I can think of a lot more

I'd like to see get on that plane

[paleotn]

16. Agreed, but I'm sure that's coming...

Brazil has a history of throwing ex presidents in jail. The US? Not so much.

[Orangepeel]

27. I think that is the reporter's incorrect word

maybe Castro used that word, but he is quoted as saying "send him back," which would more accurately be described as "deported"

[jaxexpat]

30. Do you recall what were the specific extraditionary details regarding the Shah's.....

temporary visit for surgery and subsequent deportation. Are there precidents set by that which may inform Bolsonaro's options visavis extradition from Florida to justice in his home country? The Shah was definitely wanted by his Iranian successors.

[brooklynite]

33. "The Shah was definitely wanted by his Iranian successors."

I'm not aware of any request by the Brazilian authorities. As with US law, it likely requires more than "we know he's guilty of something".

[jaxexpat]

39. My Portuguese is a little rusty..........

I didn't mean to imply that the Brazilians wanted the Shah.

What I was getting at was that I remember the then President Carter interceding for the Shah's healthcare but expressly limiting his persona gratia status to a short recovery after surgery. This humanitarian move was criticized at the time by his detractors who were always poised to condemn his every move. Still, it was an example of the executive unilaterally moving to address the immigration status of a former national executive wanted for trial by his home country. My thinking was that therein might be a precedent in which the ex-Brazilian president may be liable for forced repatriation to Brazil if Biden were to choose to intercede in this case. A shoot-out at the Miami International airport with DeSantis' black-shirts would be great entertainment plus an important object lesson to any other would-be "presidential candidates" who assume a mantle and authority presuming to thwart a sitting POTUS. The prosecution and execution of another Nazi along with his accomplices would be an object lesson apropos to these times.

My only question is would the FBI or NG or US Marshalls or whoever actually follow an executive order from a Democratic president? I wouldn't trust the Secret Service to shoot the right way.

[hot2na]

3. And Florida is ground zero

Trump, Desantis, and Bolsonaro. Three peas in a pod.

DeSantis is actually taking over corporations, School curriculums, having detractors arrested for ginned up election crimes, etc., etc., etc.

[Brother Buzz]

4. In my perfect world....

George Santos would be on the same flight back to Brazil.

[marmar]

5. Florida, where old fascists go to die

[bdamomma]

9. I only

wish.

[peppertree]

18. To paraphrase Steely Dan, "where the Cuban gentlemen sleep all day"

Now, of course, it's also Colombian narcos, Peruvian kleptocrats, Argentine dictatorship nostalgics, Brazilian authoritarians, etc...

[dalton99a]

6. The State Dept. should declare him persona non grata and order him to leave the country ASAP.

Or revoke his visa if he has a visitor visa

[ShazzieB]

25. Hell yes.

Kick his scuzzy ass OUT of this country.

[jmowreader]

7. Note to Rep. Castro

The word you are looking for is "deported."

[Iggo]

32. That's what I thought, but I don't really know.

Like in the current Idaho murder-guy thing, does Idaho extradite the suspect from Pennsylvania(?), or does Idaho request that Pennsylvania extradite the subject? I honestly don’t know how that works.

[jmowreader]

38. Idaho requests, PA extradites

The suspect can also waive extradition and be shipped right back. In essence, extradition is being dragged somewhere against your will.

[Evolve Dammit]

10. Another Trump coup. The influence is deep.

[kentuck]

11. It now appears that Trump has incited two violent coups in two different countries..

...on two different continents.

Unless you believe that he hasn't been communicating with Balsonaro?

[erronis]

29. They are all a bunch of dumb fucks - they couldn't plan this. Someone else is in charge.

[paleotn]

12. Only if they'll take Santos as well.

A twofer!!!

[tritsofme]

14. Extradition doesn't work like that.

[NullTuples]

15. Right now, it looks like we're harboring him. Because we kinda are...

While his faction attempted a coup.

I really don't want that to be America's new branding.

[tritsofme]

19. That's pretty ridiculous.

He is here traveling legally, there have been no requests for his extradition.

[NullTuples]

23. And yet, this is where he figured he'd be safe...that says something about America in 2023.

[tritsofme]

26. The suggestion that we are somehow "harboring" him is nonsense

[Sympthsical]

34. We have a Democratic President

With a Democratic Secretary of State.

If a foreign leader is "harbored" here, it could only be with the indulgence of the executive branch.

The man's just legally here for whatever reason. He's charged with no crimes and there have been no requests for extradition under typical criminal standards.

If circumstances change, I trust the State Department to do what they feel is in America's interest.

[Elessar Zappa]

36. We're not harboring him.

If Brazil charges him with something and requests extradition, then we’ll comply. Right now there’s no reason to kick him out.

[Lunabell]

17. Deathsantis will probably give him sanctuary.

And a suite in the governor's mansion.

[treestar]

20. I wonder what terms he is in the US on

He could be deported. Unless he has managed to finagle a status that allows him to stay. Maybe a grant of political asylum?

[AverageOldGuy]

21. Extradite, hell . . .

. . . lock him up.

[70sEraVet]

24. My God, once upon a time, our country was the shining example of democracy for the world.

Now we're the favorite retreat for foreign coup plotters.

[NBachers]

31. And take your bastard son Santos with you!

[PlutosHeart]

35. Has Eric Prince been spotted

paying a visit?
I suspect he is staying safe in order to return to power once they mucked things up there with secret militia and everything.
So my guess is that it is an extremely BAD move to allow him to stay here unless he is called to DC to give some testimony to Smith as more tendrils forms the ugliest situation possible.

Only a major fool would allow him to say here.

[Warpy]

37. I think the word he was looking for is "DEPORTING" and the sooner the better

Send the fucker back to face the music in Brazil.

Brazil might want to extradite TFG, Bannon, Miller, et al. for the same reason. Bon voyage, assholes.