The DOJ investigation is like a giant RICO investigation. The size and scope is incredible.

[fightforfreedom]

Their investigating, prosecuting, thousands of people who stormed the Capital. Including people charged with seditious conspiracy who had direct ties to the White House.

They are investigating scores of fake electors, including all the people they were in contact with. Including people in Trumps inner circle who were in charge of the scheme.

They are following the money. They are investigating who funded the J6 rallies etc. I don't know how many people were involved, but I would bet it is a lot. The pace of the investigation is increasing with each passing day.

While they continue their investigation it looks like we are going to get our wish very soon. DA Willis is ready to pull the trigger on indictments. That is going to be a wonderful moment. Our nation needs some Justice.

When people are indicted in Georgia that is going to change things. With indictments comes leverage. The indicted learn what charges they are facing and the amount of time they could serve.

When people are indicted in Georgia they will understand the DOJ is going to follow with Federal charges. With all this leverage, you can turn people. Turning people is a prosecutor's best friend.

DA Willis, pull the trigger. It's time to get it on.

One more point. People like Weissmann are saying Willis is going to indict soon. They are not saying may or could. They are saying it's going to happen soon. If they are wrong they will look like fools. I believe they are correct.

[secondwind]

1. Thanks for this!!!

There are some here who don’t think Garland is doing much!!

THANK YOU!!

[mopinko]

2. i feel like we need a nuremburg style trial.

i think it will take the sight of a couple dozen old white men in the dock to rly get through to ppl how big the whole thing was.
and what it was, exactly.

[fightforfreedom]

3. Nuremberg style trial, good analogy.

[niyad]

4. It took almost two years to investigate Watergate, a single act with a few

participants.

[Eyeball_Kid]

16. I've been saying this for awhile.

This is the biggest criminal investigation in the nation's history. It crosses numerous federal agencies, including the DoD and DHS, as well as members of Congress. Well-known politicians will resign. Media celebrities will resign. This is no joke. If the DOJ is a shell of what it's supposed to be, all of it will still happen. Tens of millions have already gone into the investigation, as well as previous and ongoing prosecutions. The GOP will be decimated.

[Delphinus]

32. I, for one,

cannot wait. I'm sure it will stun me and maybe even upset me, but I am really ready for the criminals that are upending democracy to be out of the way.

[SoCalDavidS]

5. Weismann Also Said He Wasn't Sure Indictments Would Go All The Way To Top

I’ll wait until Teflon Man is actually named before celebrating. I don’t call him Teflon Man for nothing.

[Tadpole Raisin]

6. I read that there were almost 70 indicted from the Nixon administration and maybe 50 were convicted.

If this is worse then we could see double those numbers. I’d be shocked but happy if that happened. It feels like we’ll be lucky to have 10 indicted and 5 convicted after immunity deals.

I also hope they are looking into events at the Willard Hotel. I never hear anything about that anymore. Flynn and all those planners should be indicted!

[nightwing1240]

7. "DA Willis is ready to pull the trigger on indictments"

Is there a link to that or just your own thoughts?

[fightforfreedom]

9. Read the last couple of lines my post.

Experts have been appearing on the news saying she will indict soon.

[gab13by13]

10. I will post where he is getting his information,

give me a minute.

[nightwing1240]

11. thank you

I am not doubting it but asking

[gab13by13]

15. Sorry, I can't post it now,

msnbc put it behind a paywall now.

Andrew Weissmann and Barbara McQuade, both former prosecutors agreed that Fani Willis didn't go through 8 months of grand jury to toss the case.

Weissman was mostly, not entirely against doing a large scale RICO style prosecution because it gives the defense more to pick at, Weissman did say that if Fani has a boat load of evidence then go for the big scale, but his choice would be going after the best crimes that have the best chances of winning, a smaller number of charges.

McQuade was somewhere in the middle, she waffled around saying maybe a combination.

[gab13by13]

8. You watched Nicolle yesterday, I know,

because you nailed me for not giving the whole story about what Barbara McQuade said so I posted the segment.

You failed to report what Weissman said about doing a large RICO prosecution.

Why would Fani look like a fool?

I also believe that indictments are coming. Nicolle had a fantastic show yesterday, I will repost it here.

My only wish is that DOJ could have run a parallel investigation with Fani, 2 heads are better than one, and that would have given them good coordination. Luckily for Jack Smith he will benefit from the special grand jury's report. I hope he is allowed to see it.

[fightforfreedom]

12. You are reading my post wrong.

I said the experts would like fools if Willis does not indict.

You do not know if the DOJ and Willis have been cooperating, coordinating their investigations or not. It's all speculation.

[gab13by13]

17. I hope they have been cooperating,

I wish that DOJ had run a parallel investigation, maybe it was too busy with unwashed Magats?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

14. +100. nt

[DENVERPOPS]

13. It isn't so much incredible

as it is un-fathomable.........much akin to finite vs infinite........

[PCIntern]

18. Not to belabor the point, but

If you recall a short time ago, I posted that one of my acquaintances had contacts in Atlanta who told him the indictments were coming for certain. And these are state indictments, not federal, so I don’t need to hear about how federal people don’t talk, which is a lot of crap because they certainly talk in my office when they come in.

There’s an old joke which I can’t fully tell here that Molly Ivins used to tell about the three great lies in America: Mack trucks, the FBI, and something else which I can’t say because it’s extremely misogynistic.

[fightforfreedom]

21. Good point about State charges.

A future Republican president cannot pardon people for State charges.

[randr]

19. If only they could net the people behind "Q"

The roots of all the insurrection we see around the world are tied to conspiracy theory's that get spread without any scrutiny. It is like there is a source of vile evil that infects people in ways we have never seen before. Arresting the people is just treating the symptoms of what I am beginning to think is a new, un diagnosed, mental illness.

[fightforfreedom]

22. The evil we are witnessing has a name.

Fascism. What we are witnessing is not new.

[jaxexpat]

20. Thanks for sharing your beliefs.

[BumRushDaShow]

23. When I had seen this on Alex some time ago, I found the vid and will post again (from MSNBC)

This came up back in September and I always thought it covered much of the huge scope of the conspiracy.



Willis will most likely refer to a full "criminal" grand jury when she is done as her process is more a "fact-finding" investigation to determine whether it goes to the next phase. Her current grand jury does not do indictments.

Also the "laundering" issue with respect to Bannon and "Build the Wall" is going on in NY after he was pardoned by 45 for the same at the federal level. Another in that scheme was convicted in October for it.

In parallel, you have Colorado with multiple cases associated with voting machine tampering, notably the Tina Peters case, with Mike Lindell, who had his cell phone seized by the FBI. Her trial comes up in March 2023.

[fightforfreedom]

26. Thanks for posting that video.

It shows how immense the J6 investigation is. It shows how many people are involved. It's off the charts. You should start a post and share that video again.

[Marius25]

24. They might want to hurry up and start indicting Republicans in Congress

The damage they're already doing in the first week is ridiculous.

[Delphinus]

33. I know!

It hurts my heart.

[Fiendish Thingy]

25. Popehat sez: It's not RICO, dammit!

https://www.popehat.com/2016/06/14/lawsplainer-its-not-rico-dammit/

The Trump investigations are huge and complex, but not likely Qualifying under RICO (at least not his presidential crimes)

[BumRushDaShow]

28. Look at the date of that assertion - June 2016

Lawsplainer: IT'S NOT RICO, DAMMIT

June 14, 2016 by Ken White

Now fast-forward to January 2023.

The "racketeering" portion for 45 has everything to do with his organization that has already netted some convictions and is in the process of multiple civil complaints.

This is about to happen today -

January 10, 202310:39 AM EST Last Updated 19 min ago
Trump executive Weisselberg prepares for jail on Rikers Island

By Karen Freifeld

NEW YORK, Jan 10 (Reuters) - A longtime executive for Donald Trump is expected to be sent to New York's notorious Rikers Island jail after being sentenced on Tuesday for helping engineer a 15-year tax fraud scheme at the former president's real estate company.

Allen Weisselberg, the Trump Organization's former chief financial officer, pleaded guilty in August, admitting that from 2005 to 2017 he and other executives received bonuses and perks that saved the company and themselves money.

Weisselberg is expected to be sentenced to five months behind bars, after paying nearly $2 million in taxes, penalties and interest and testifying at the criminal trial of the Trump Organization, which was convicted on all counts it faced.

The sentence will be imposed by Justice Juan Merchan, who oversaw the trial in a New York state court in Manhattan. Weisselberg would likely serve 100 days with time off for good behavior.

(snip)

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-executive-weisselberg-prepares-jail-rikers-island-2023-01-10/

But more to the point - THIS was part of the "racketeering" -

Trump's DC hotel was the 'epicenter' of corruption where anyone looking to 'curry favor' could just walk in and 'flash cash,' says watchdog group

Joshua Zitser
Dec 19, 2021, 6:50 AM

Former President Donald Trump's hotel in Washington, DC, was an "epicenter" of corruption, according to the head of an ethics watchdog group. "Anyone looking to curry favor with his administration could simply walk over to his namesake hotel a couple of blocks from the White House and flash cash," said Noah Bookbinder, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics, in an article published by NBC News. Bookbinder's assessment follows a damning House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure report, released on Wednesday.

It found that the agency overseeing the Trump Organization's lease "washed its hands of any responsibility" in investigating ethical concerns and if the emoluments clauses of the Constitution were being followed, NBC News reported. The emoluments clauses prohibit a sitting president from taking payments or benefits from foreign and domestic governments to safeguard against undue influence.

The report found that the General Services Administration (GSA) failed to track payments from foreign governments to the hotel, per NBC News. Representatives of at least 22 foreign governments spent money at Trump properties, including the hotel in DC, during the early years of his presidency, the media outlet said. And there were "zero checks and balances" into whether the hotel's calculations of these payments were fair and accurate, the committee said, per NBC News. 

The report also found that the GSA did not seek to identify the origins of more than $75 million in loans made by Trump and his family to the hotel, and "whether the ultimate source of the financing posed any constitutional concerns," the report said. 

(snip)

https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-dc-hotel-was-epicenter-of-corruption-watchdog-head-says-nbc-2021-12

[Fiendish Thingy]

29. And yet, no prosecutor or plaintiff has pursued Trump under RICO statutes

The Popehat explainer applies to all RICO queries, past, present and future.

I agree that some of Trump’s pre- and extra-presidential activities, especially money laundering, could fall under RICO, but no one, not even Letitia James or SDNY has chosen to prosecute him under organized crime statutes.

Cries of “RICO!!!” are quite often uninformed, desperate pleas from the frustrated, hence the need for the Popehat explainer.

[BumRushDaShow]

30. Remember every time they (feds) start on one thing

and peel back a layer, a whole new level of criminality is discovered underneath.

The most recent brouhaha over the classified documents helps to form motives behind possible extortion, bribery, money laundering, etc.

This is where over 5 decades, NY state fell down on the job because the whole "Real estate" focus of 45's organization was obviously a criminal front and only now are they looking at the fraud and tax evasion. Before now, none of them even wanted to touch it, let alone be able to get all the resources together for the long haul because there would be (as you have seen happening the past year) continual legal maneuvers done to block every step forward towards an indictment and prosecution.

Remember the bullshit "Special Master" nonsense that Loose Cannon finally had mooted? THAT is an example of the dirty tricks that were expected to happen and did happen.

[MissMillie]

27. I think 1/24 is the earliest anything will happen w/ that one

There's a meeting or a hearing (or something like that) to deal w/ the work of the Special Grand Jury. (That's what I read here on DU in the last day or two.)

I don't think anything will happen before then.

[Cha]

31. TY