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JohnSJ

(92,192 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 10:54 AM Jan 2023

Screw Bloomberg. Emily Wilkins spewing how the classified documents found at Biden's office

"raises a lot of questions" because of what happened with trump.

Spewing the republican talking points, WITHOUT any comments on the difference between what trump did, and what Biden did





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Screw Bloomberg. Emily Wilkins spewing how the classified documents found at Biden's office (Original Post) JohnSJ Jan 2023 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #1
Biden's lawyers found the documents and immediately notified National Archives MissMillie Jan 2023 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #5
I'm fully aware of the politics of the situation, and MissMillie Jan 2023 #7
Garland was on this case like stink on poop. Hopefully he will come through ve Trump chicoescuela Jan 2023 #2
I've put this "scandal" on ignore. Let kacekwl Jan 2023 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #6
"Why we are always asked to be things PatSeg Jan 2023 #8
The big question is going to be why he took them to a private think tank ripcord Jan 2023 #9
It was an office...... getagrip_already Jan 2023 #11
DOJ probably leaked this. An excuse not to prosecute for Maralago docs. Sneederbunk Jan 2023 #10
That's likely not the case.... getagrip_already Jan 2023 #12
omg.. NO Cha Jan 2023 #14
And you know this, how? we can do it Jan 2023 #16
Suuuuurrreee. Elessar Zappa Jan 2023 #17
Emily Watkins Needs to Check this OUT.. Cha Jan 2023 #13
+++ JohnSJ Jan 2023 #15

Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

MissMillie

(38,559 posts)
4. Biden's lawyers found the documents and immediately notified National Archives
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 11:43 AM
Jan 2023

the "find" is not in question.

But the GOP will have a very difficult time convincing anyone of criminal intent. No one seemed to know the documents were missing (yes, that's a problem for the National Archives), the President didn't seem to know he was in possession of the documents, and as soon as they were found they were returned.

In stark contrast to taking the documents, being asked for the documents, trying to "negotiate" to keep the documents, claiming the documents were personal property, claiming to have declassified documents with his mind, and then claiming that he didn't have any more documents (and NARA was full aware that there were--AND STILL ARE--records that are not accounted for).

(On edit: Actually, I'm not sure if the lawyers work for President Biden personally, or work for the White House.)

Response to MissMillie (Reply #4)

MissMillie

(38,559 posts)
7. I'm fully aware of the politics of the situation, and
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 11:58 AM
Jan 2023

how the GOP will attempt to make hay with this in the court of public opinion.

I was merely commenting on the legal side of the story.

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
3. I've put this "scandal" on ignore. Let
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 11:34 AM
Jan 2023

the investigations commence and continue the screaming and hair pulling. The direction it takes will tell us all we need to know about law in America.

Response to kacekwl (Reply #3)

PatSeg

(47,455 posts)
8. "Why we are always asked to be things
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 12:03 PM
Jan 2023

the GOP NEVER does?" This is so true and we see it over and over again. Meanwhile, the media often lets them get away with it.

getagrip_already

(14,752 posts)
11. It was an office......
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 12:51 PM
Jan 2023

Presumably he did work there, with aides who handled the docs making sure they made it back safely.

The "real" questions, are much more mundane. first, what were they and what would the impact be if lost? If these were mostly situation briefings on low level topics, or background materials on something he was teaching, it could be pretty mundane.

There may have been some secret docs, but no reported TS or TS/sci which would be much more sensitive.

Second would be what was the chain of custody. Presumably biden didn't have personal control over the docs, and may not have been in that office in years.

If they were just mis-filed and left behind, it's a nothing burger. Some aide will be responsible.

Now if they were extremely sensitive documents, and were in his bedroom desk with his passport on top of them, it's much more serious.....

Even in gov't offices, they will frequently find classified docs misfiled. In computer systems, it happens as well.

The important thing is the process used once the discovery is made; usually it's no big deal unless it was intentional or the info was very sensitive.

Sneederbunk

(14,291 posts)
10. DOJ probably leaked this. An excuse not to prosecute for Maralago docs.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 12:48 PM
Jan 2023

Garland does not want to prosecute TFG, period.

getagrip_already

(14,752 posts)
12. That's likely not the case....
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 12:58 PM
Jan 2023

I'm as critical of the doj's timidity as anyone, but I doubt garland had this leaked as a way out.

There are still maga trolls at doj, and other agencies that might be involved, so leaks can happen. We've seen leaks before wrt to gaetz investigations as well as others.

But it wasn't garland, or smith. I doubt smith will even blink an eye at the details of this find. He is focussed on tfg's offenses. It's like stopping to look at a liquor store holdup when you are prosecuting major bank robberies. They aren't connected.

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