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Aviation Pro

(12,169 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 03:26 PM Jan 2023

So, this, this is what the cult voted for (cuts to social security and medicare)

Good luck with that shit, you fucking morons. Guess you like being in the minority and want to go back in 2024. Also, turn in your fucking long tab, Waltz, you worthless oxygen thief. Also, also, NOT FUCKING ENTITLEMENTS. Earned.

Republicans Signal Cuts To Social Security, Medicare With New House Majority

Louse Republicans are making clear that they intend to seek cuts to entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare with their new majority in the 118th Congress.

Their plans to target health care programs follow demands from a group of conservatives that helped elect House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) over the weekend. Those far-right lawmakers have sought across-the-board spending cuts in order to tackle the growing national debt.

But the narrow House GOP majority ― McCarthy can afford to lose just four votes on any bill ― is far more divided on cuts to defense spending than for entitlement programs.

“I’m all for a balanced budget, but we’re not going to do it on the backs of our troops and our military,” Rep. Michael Waltz (R-Fla.), a former Army Green Beret, said Monday during an interview on Fox Business. “If we really want to talk about the debt and spending, it’s the entitlements programs.”


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So, this, this is what the cult voted for (cuts to social security and medicare) (Original Post) Aviation Pro Jan 2023 OP
"We're not going to do it on the backs of our troops and our military." Ocelot II Jan 2023 #1
And those who've worked their whole fucking lives for a chance to retire Aviation Pro Jan 2023 #2
Useless eaters...can't even shoot a gun. ret5hd Jan 2023 #3
Tax cuts for the rich are a well-established entitlement program. keithbvadu2 Jan 2023 #4
The word entitlements bamagal62 Jan 2023 #5
Exactly! phoenix75 Jan 2023 #9
We pay into that our whole lives. That means we are entitled to it. Republicans misuse the word. emulatorloo Jan 2023 #11
It is an economic term, not the normal definiton of the term entitlements FSogol Jan 2023 #16
Precisely. See 17, the SSA clarification. WarGamer Jan 2023 #18
The SSA explains WarGamer Jan 2023 #17
I believe Fran Lutz introduced this term for Republicans. LakeArenal Jan 2023 #22
This is going nowhere with a Democratic Senate and President EarlG Jan 2023 #6
This coupled with watching newdayneeded Jan 2023 #7
Kevin McCarthy broadcast this very agenda last summer FakeNoose Jan 2023 #8
How about reversing some of those tax cuts? MiniMe Jan 2023 #10
Better yet... a new wealth tax. WarGamer Jan 2023 #14
If they bring this up for a vote blueinredohio Jan 2023 #12
Details from the article for those whose heart may have skipped a beat. WarGamer Jan 2023 #13
Are we pretending Chip Roy isn't a pants-on-fire liar of the first order? FSogol Jan 2023 #20
I think precisely ZERO politicians are in facor of taking SS AWAY from anyone currently rec'g WarGamer Jan 2023 #21
Why such a defense of the GOP? They are already discussing cutting social security. FSogol Jan 2023 #24
no, no, no... WarGamer Jan 2023 #25
Entitlements Captain_New_York Jan 2023 #15
See 17. It's the proper definition. WarGamer Jan 2023 #19
Republican voters get two mother-in-law suites ready. LakeArenal Jan 2023 #23
The military and the cops are jobs programs pure and simple. The_Casual_Observer Jan 2023 #26

Ocelot II

(115,713 posts)
1. "We're not going to do it on the backs of our troops and our military."
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 03:29 PM
Jan 2023

"We'll do it on the backs of the poor and the elderly and the disabled instead."

Aviation Pro

(12,169 posts)
2. And those who've worked their whole fucking lives for a chance to retire
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 03:31 PM
Jan 2023

Fucking morons are like the slowest kid in the school, who takes a dare and sticks his tongue on a frozen lamppost.

Or in this case a third rail.

keithbvadu2

(36,814 posts)
4. Tax cuts for the rich are a well-established entitlement program.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 03:35 PM
Jan 2023

Tax cuts for the rich are a well-established entitlement program.

bamagal62

(3,258 posts)
5. The word entitlements
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 03:35 PM
Jan 2023

Infuriates me. Why do we allow them to use it?
We pay into that our whole lives. It’s earned fair and square.

FSogol

(45,487 posts)
16. It is an economic term, not the normal definiton of the term entitlements
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:42 PM
Jan 2023

From the dictionary: the state or condition of being entitled : right. : a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract. : belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges.

The Federal classification: A Federal program or provision of law that requires payments to any person or unit of government that meets the eligibility criteria established by law. Entitlements constitute a binding obligation on the part of the Federal Government, and eligible recipients have legal recourse if the obligation is not fulfilled.

Conservatives try to conflate the various meanings to pretend that social security isn't something we paid for, but something we unjustly expect.

WarGamer

(12,445 posts)
17. The SSA explains
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:43 PM
Jan 2023
The Social Security benefit programs are “entitlement” programs.
This means that workers, employers and the self-employed pay for the benefits with their Social
Security taxes. The taxes that are collected are put into special trust funds. You qualify for
these benefits based on your work history (or your spouse or parent). The amount of the benefit
is based on these earnings.

EarlG

(21,949 posts)
6. This is going nowhere with a Democratic Senate and President
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 03:37 PM
Jan 2023

All they're doing is reminding voters that Republicans want to push granny off a cliff (again).

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
8. Kevin McCarthy broadcast this very agenda last summer
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 03:38 PM
Jan 2023

None of us should be surprised, we were all told what they planned to do.

MiniMe

(21,716 posts)
10. How about reversing some of those tax cuts?
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 03:57 PM
Jan 2023

You want to know where all the $$ is going, look there first

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
12. If they bring this up for a vote
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:37 PM
Jan 2023

I hope they make every one of theses assholes say it out loud so every one will know who voted for it.

WarGamer

(12,445 posts)
13. Details from the article for those whose heart may have skipped a beat.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:39 PM
Jan 2023
Republicans don’t plan to alter benefits for current Social Security and Medicare recipients, according to Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas).

“What we have been very clear about is, we’re not going to touch the benefits that are going to people relying on the benefits under Social Security and Medicare,” Roy said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “But we all have to be honest about sitting at the table and figuring out how we’re going to make those work, how we’re going to deal with defense spending and how we’re going to deal with nondefense discretionary spending.”

The Republican Study Committee proposed a budget for fiscal 2023 that would gradually increase the eligibility ages for Social Security and Medicare, and change the Social Security benefit formula for people 54 and younger, while not changing it for people closer to receiving benefits.

WarGamer

(12,445 posts)
21. I think precisely ZERO politicians are in facor of taking SS AWAY from anyone currently rec'g
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:47 PM
Jan 2023

The electoral backlash would be complete.

We're talking 435 Seat DEM House.

FSogol

(45,487 posts)
24. Why such a defense of the GOP? They are already discussing cutting social security.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 05:47 PM
Jan 2023

Why trust their good nature? :WTF:

https://tax.thomsonreuters.com/news/republican-house-conservatives-threaten-debt-limit-default-to-cut-social-programs/

All of the GOP fucks listed in this article are attempting to cut social security. It is disingenuous to pretend that isn't happening. Means testing it is a crap idea. Despite playing with the definitions of entitlements, social security is something people paid into. Taking it away is wrong. You are also moving the goal posts by inserting the "currently receiving."

WarGamer

(12,445 posts)
25. no, no, no...
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 05:57 PM
Jan 2023

I'm explaining WHY it's not going to happen, certainly NOT defending anyone.

Call it a flaw of mine, but I'm an INTP-T and I'm somewhat OCD about terms and definitions and clarity... I'm the last person in the world to let emotions rule my gray matter.

Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression.

Captain_New_York

(161 posts)
15. Entitlements
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:42 PM
Jan 2023

Tell Michael Waltz ( future Colonel US Army retired) that his retirement and VA benefits are by his definition entitlements and should be on the chopping block

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