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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,010 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 03:48 PM Jan 2023

Marjorie Taylor Greene Slams Biden Admin on Possible Stove Ban: 'Idiots'

Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene on Monday slammed President Joe Biden's administration over reports that a gas stove ban is being considered.

The story originated in a Bloomberg report which found that the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) was weighing a possible ban on gas stoves because of their adverse health effects. According to recent studies, 13 percent of current cases of childhood asthma can be linked to air pollutants that are released by gas stoves. The pollutants have also been linked to the worsening of other respiratory conditions.

Some of the pollutants released by the stoves include nitrogen dioxide, carbon monoxide and fine particulate matter. Their adverse effects are worsened in homes without sufficient ventilation capabilities.

In an interview with Bloomberg, CPSC head Richard Trumka Jr. called gas stoves a "hidden hazard" and said that a ban is a possibility.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/marjorie-taylor-greene-slams-biden-admin-on-possible-stove-ban-idiots/ar-AA16bhOD

MTG's head was stoved in long time ago.

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Marjorie Taylor Greene Slams Biden Admin on Possible Stove Ban: 'Idiots' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2023 OP
And she wants lead back In gasoline underpants Jan 2023 #1
Probably paint too jmowreader Jan 2023 #2
She clearly spent her childhood eating paint chips Ocelot II Jan 2023 #4
I'm sure she wants it Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #30
Without knowing more details, cilla4progress Jan 2023 #3
The State of New York is considering banning gas hookups in new construction. Ocelot II Jan 2023 #5
In new construction is the key. mobeau69 Jan 2023 #7
Of course; nobody is going to require millions of people to switch Ocelot II Jan 2023 #8
I'll give 100 to 1 odds she didn't mention that existing installations would be grandfathered in. mobeau69 Jan 2023 #11
If this was done, I'm 98% sure it would only be a ban on putting them in newly-built homes Hugh_Lebowski Jan 2023 #6
That's what's being done in Seattle right now Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2023 #15
Wait, What? What about the furnace? newdayneeded Jan 2023 #16
I assume likewise Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2023 #18
the other option would be electric baseboard newdayneeded Jan 2023 #27
Not accurate. maxsolomon Jan 2023 #28
Nope I have a heat pump dsc Jan 2023 #32
Doubt they'd be banned because of how the gas is vacated from a home through the flu Bengus81 Jan 2023 #22
My Take, As Well ProfessorGAC Jan 2023 #24
It is under consideration sarisataka Jan 2023 #12
Cooking with gas is saying for a reason. SYFROYH Jan 2023 #9
This is what I thought when I first heard of this proposed ban. Sogo Jan 2023 #23
if range vents actually ventilated GenXer47 Jan 2023 #10
This. Ventilation is key. mwooldri Jan 2023 #14
Same Thing ProfessorGAC Jan 2023 #26
Dang! mwooldri Jan 2023 #29
Keep in mind that Marge Traitor Greene was also the one... regnaD kciN Jan 2023 #13
And airplanes, don't forget the airplanes... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #40
Get an induction range, I got one a while back, absolutely love it. Meadowoak Jan 2023 #17
Hey Marge, stick your head in the oven and show 'em how tough you are Blue Owl Jan 2023 #19
LOL JanLip Jan 2023 #21
What? Does she want to bring back asbestos too? Initech Jan 2023 #20
My gas stove almost killed me last Christmas Deep State Witch Jan 2023 #25
I'm not enthused about getting rid of gas stoves myself Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #31
she is right...all good intentions aside dembotoz Jan 2023 #33
You can't fix stupid Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2023 #34
walking in the cow pasture you at least want to avoid stepping in the shit dembotoz Jan 2023 #36
Many rural people don't have natural gas. They have propane. Kaleva Jan 2023 #38
I knew that one would gin up the crazies. Vinca Jan 2023 #35
I don't think this applies to LP gas stoves Kaleva Jan 2023 #37
I'm guessing Rep. Greene wrote her slam by LED rather than CFL bulbs or candlelight. Torchlight Jan 2023 #39

Ocelot II

(115,719 posts)
4. She clearly spent her childhood eating paint chips
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 03:56 PM
Jan 2023

and enjoying the piquant flavor of all that lead.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
3. Without knowing more details,
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 03:55 PM
Jan 2023

a flat ban on gas stoves strikes me as stupid, too!

I don't believe it is under consideration. Just not something a sane admin - such as Biden's (or any Dem) would consider!

Ocelot II

(115,719 posts)
5. The State of New York is considering banning gas hookups in new construction.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 03:58 PM
Jan 2023
https://news.yahoo.com/ny-governor-proposes-first-ever-statewide-ban-on-gas-hookups-in-new-buildings-210023080.html So, yes, it is being considered at some state levels. I doubt it will pass at the federal level, though.

Ocelot II

(115,719 posts)
8. Of course; nobody is going to require millions of people to switch
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:03 PM
Jan 2023

to electric or other heat for their existing homes, other buildings. I have gas heat, a gas water heater and a gas stove; they haven't killed me yet, but in any event I can't afford to replace my furnace and appliances and I doubt many other people could either.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. If this was done, I'm 98% sure it would only be a ban on putting them in newly-built homes
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:00 PM
Jan 2023

And perhaps some other specific conditions.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,010 posts)
15. That's what's being done in Seattle right now
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:49 PM
Jan 2023

My sister has a gas stove so their house is grandfathered in. New homes can no longer have natural gas.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
28. Not accurate.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 06:10 PM
Jan 2023

I live in Seattle and we replaced an oil-burning furnace with an ELECTRIC heat pump. That pump is powered by hydroelectric power.

Do I have a propane grill OUTSIDE where the health impact is null? Yes, I do.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
22. Doubt they'd be banned because of how the gas is vacated from a home through the flu
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 05:09 PM
Jan 2023

No comparison to a gas stove.

ProfessorGAC

(65,057 posts)
24. My Take, As Well
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 05:24 PM
Jan 2023

A low percentage of gas stove users have externally vented cooking hoods.
I know exactly zero people who do, including us. Yeah, that's anecdotal, but given how many houses I've been into the last 25 years or so, it's still a big number.
Banning furnaces would be contradictory to the reason given for banning stoves.

SYFROYH

(34,170 posts)
9. Cooking with gas is saying for a reason.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:04 PM
Jan 2023


Hopefully, any policy will only require warning labels and not ban them.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
23. This is what I thought when I first heard of this proposed ban.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 05:18 PM
Jan 2023

Some things can't be cooked except on an open flame.

People should just be given a warning about the likelihood of adverse effects, and then let them decide. A ban resulting from 13% incidents seems like overcompensating.

 

GenXer47

(1,204 posts)
10. if range vents actually ventilated
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:06 PM
Jan 2023

How many of us have those stupid range fans that just blow air into the kitchen and make everything worse?
When I finally witnessed a real range vent in operation, I was astonished at how you could cook like a madman in the summer, and not heat up the kitchen.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
14. This. Ventilation is key.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:34 PM
Jan 2023

If you have a gas cooktop, definitely vent it outside. Unsure how same works for gas oven, though I think those should be obsolete.

ProfessorGAC

(65,057 posts)
26. Same Thing
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 05:39 PM
Jan 2023

Last edited Tue Jan 10, 2023, 07:01 PM - Edit history (1)

A forced air external vent still exerts a negative pressure around the stove.
Since the exhaust gasses are hot they'll rise toward the intake and get drawn out.
Commercial kitchens rely on the hoods to exhaust oven gasses. (I worked as a janitor in a banquet hall in HS & college. I can still see that kitchen clearly in my mind. )
Funny story: I came in one morning with the burglar alarm going. I used the payphone in the vestibule to call the cops & shut off the alarm. I went in with the cop to unlock doors. Perps were long gone.
They busted in by peeling the sheet metal away from the cowling on one of the exhaust fans and cam down onto the hood.
These geniuses stepped onto the suspended ceiling and crashed through to the floor. There was blood on the kitchen quarry tile. (Not a trivial amount.)
The door to the bar was locked from the bar side. Could not get it jimmied.
Went into the hall, stood on a banquet table and unscrewed the transom over one set of double doors. Solid walnut. They underestimated the weight and it fell, breaking the table. More blood on the floor.
They get to the bar. Steal tip money but no cash in the register.
They try to remove the smaller transom into the back room, by standing on the fold over. It breaks, and they fall. More blood. Finally get the transom off and it's decorative. There's a concrete wall above the door.
Like Pesci & Stern in Home Alone!
They got away with about a hundred bucks but did $8,000 of damage. In 1975! Probably $25,000 today.
Finally they tried to break into the office by prying the upper part of the Dutch door. Guess where the alarm trip was.
They took an utter beating for $100. Dopes!

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
13. Keep in mind that Marge Traitor Greene was also the one...
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:15 PM
Jan 2023

…who declared she was against solar power because no one wants all their appliances to stop working as soon as the sun goes down.

Deep State Witch

(10,427 posts)
25. My gas stove almost killed me last Christmas
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 05:39 PM
Jan 2023

Christmas of 2021 - I was roasting a small turkey for me, my husband, and my elderly aunt. My husband and I started acting really stupid. I mean, more than usual. Then an alarm went off. We thought it was the smoke alarm. It wasn't. It was the carbon monoxide alarm. Our downstairs CO detector, which measures PPM, said that we were just below the danger zone!

Fortunately, it was fairly warm that Christmas, so we opened up all of the windows to air the place out while the turkey finished. Needless to say, we went out the next day and shopped for a new stove/oven.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
31. I'm not enthused about getting rid of gas stoves myself
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 06:54 PM
Jan 2023

If you've ever lived through a blizzard or in a hurricane zone, then you know the value of a gas stove when the power goes out. If you have electric stoves, you can't heat up food or boil water. That last part is especially concerning, because boiling water is sometimes a necessity if you've just been through a hurricane.

I'd be extremely uncomfortable with living in a place like the Dakotas or the Gulf Coast without a gas stove.

dembotoz

(16,806 posts)
33. she is right...all good intentions aside
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 07:44 PM
Jan 2023

must we write gop talking points for them?
I live in a very red area.
they actually believed obama was gonna come in silent blackhawk helicopters in the middle of the night to steal their guns.
now they will claim that the libtards are gonna drive up in their fbi trucks and steal grandmas gas stove.
won't matter that grandma switched to electric stove back in the 80s......

this will make for easy slogans that the gop pols can throw out at events that don't make their supporters think too hard.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,010 posts)
34. You can't fix stupid
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 07:49 PM
Jan 2023

So why should we try? We can be as good as we want and they'll still make up something.

Torchlight

(3,341 posts)
39. I'm guessing Rep. Greene wrote her slam by LED rather than CFL bulbs or candlelight.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 10:48 PM
Jan 2023

I'm also guessing she righteously railed about that changeover as well to her Crossfit coworkers who pretended to be concerned, hoping that might quiet her down a bit.

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