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applegrove

(118,677 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:05 PM Jan 2023

McCarthy Denies There's a Secret Agreement

McCarthy Denies There’s a Secret Agreement

January 10, 2023 at 1:21 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 57 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2023/01/10/mccarthy-denies-theres-a-secret-agreement/

"SNIP.......

Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) told Republican lawmakers that there is no official three-page document detailing the concessions he granted to last week’s holdouts on the speaker vote, CNN reports.

McCarthy says it was a “gentleman’s agreement” even though Semafor reports his opponents had demanded getting things in writing.

........SNIP"



AND:


Another Bonus Quote of the Day

January 10, 2023 at 12:09 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 101 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2023/01/10/another-bonus-quote-of-the-day-31/

"SNIP.....

“I’m not at liberty to discuss whether I’ve seen it or not.”

— Rep. Dusty Johnson (R-SD), quoted by the Washington Post, on the secret document outlining the deal Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) made with far-right lawmakers.

.......SNIP"

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McCarthy Denies There's a Secret Agreement (Original Post) applegrove Jan 2023 OP
A Gentleman's Agreement. Turbineguy Jan 2023 #1
That is why they wanted it in writing. They didn't trust Kevin. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Jim__ Jan 2023 #12
But isn't a "gentleman's agreement" a secret agreement? Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #2
To me Zeitghost Jan 2023 #5
Yes of course. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #6
Except for the fact that claudette Jan 2023 #4
Exactly. If they are Russian or Republicans...... they lie.. mitch96 Jan 2023 #10
Anything they may have agreed to Zeitghost Jan 2023 #7
Which means there IS a secret agreement gratuitous Jan 2023 #8
Well doesn't any handjob deal with the fanatics still have to made part of the rules or agenda Thomas Hurt Jan 2023 #9
meh, that's exactly what somebody who has made a secret agreement would say...... getagrip_already Jan 2023 #11
Anything that is not disclosed publicly IS a SECRET agreement. Caliman73 Jan 2023 #13
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2023 #14

Response to Turbineguy (Reply #1)

Zeitghost

(3,862 posts)
5. To me
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:20 PM
Jan 2023

It's always meant an unwritten agreement with no formal signed contracts. Also called a "handshake deal".

Zeitghost

(3,862 posts)
7. Anything they may have agreed to
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:24 PM
Jan 2023

Would be non-binding unless formally passed by the House. Whether it was written down or not means nothing legally but I guess it could be used as political pressure on McCarthy if he fails to go along.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. Which means there IS a secret agreement
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:26 PM
Jan 2023

It's just not necessarily "official" from what I see of McCarthy's denial. It might be two or four pages, but three seems oddly specific, so I'm gonna credit that as true, too.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
9. Well doesn't any handjob deal with the fanatics still have to made part of the rules or agenda
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:32 PM
Jan 2023

for the 118th and end up on the Congressional record....

getagrip_already

(14,757 posts)
11. meh, that's exactly what somebody who has made a secret agreement would say......
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 05:07 PM
Jan 2023

Sure, kev, sure. Not officially, eh?

Okkkkay then.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
13. Anything that is not disclosed publicly IS a SECRET agreement.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 06:03 PM
Jan 2023

We need to stop allowing Conservatives to play with language in order to cover their lies.

Journalists need to keep pressing and say that if it is something they cannot or will not disclose, then it is a SECRET agreement. That is the definition of a SECRET. If I tell my daughter not to tell my wife about the birthday present I got my wife, then I have asked my daughter to keep a SECRET. I can call it a, "daddy daughter agreement" but it is a fucking secret for the simple fact that I requested that the information NOT be disclosed.

Gentleman's Agreement, Asshole's Agreement, written or not, it is a SECRET AGREEMENT.

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