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newdayneeded

(2,493 posts)
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 11:37 AM Jan 2023

Planted docs myth

As much as I'd like to believe this conspiracy theory, they'd actually have to plant docs from 2016 or older. Any classified docs would be dated.

So trump or his lackies wouldn't have had access to Obama Era documents to even plant them.

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Planted docs myth (Original Post) newdayneeded Jan 2023 OP
I recall that some Obama-era documents were found amongst the Trump search? kentuck Jan 2023 #1
If Obama documents were found at MAL and SS has been accused of being compromised... Chakaconcarne Jan 2023 #12
Not sure why you would assume this. intheflow Jan 2023 #2
Occam's razor...nt Wounded Bear Jan 2023 #3
FFS onenote Jan 2023 #4
And not use them to affect the 2022 election AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #5
Thanks. intheflow Jan 2023 #7
Before the Comey announcement in 2016 AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #8
+1, ... or they were counting on a news organization that wasn't MAGA linked to spill the beans. uponit7771 Jan 2023 #31
Why would anyone in Biden's crew use the docs to affect the 2022 election and for what?! uponit7771 Jan 2023 #29
They wouldn't AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #32
Because they would have to answer to their any knowledge of them. Any MAGA tie to the documents ... uponit7771 Jan 2023 #33
Riiiight. Only one person works at the National Archives intheflow Jan 2023 #6
+1 Meadowoak Jan 2023 #16
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 uponit7771 Jan 2023 #30
Okay, okay ..... H2O Man Jan 2023 #11
How did they manage to plant them at President Biden's home in Wilmington? MichMan Jan 2023 #9
By using space lasers. rubbersole Jan 2023 #10
Does the Secret Service not accompany him at his home? W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #13
There is lots of suspicious on the SS right now. Especially around January 6th. fescuerescue Jan 2023 #15
Absolutely, and they probably don't have full run of his home while Meadowoak Jan 2023 #18
How would the SS have access to them? Polybius Jan 2023 #22
Probably came from Mara- slobo Meadowoak Jan 2023 #24
Yeah, there's no way they did it on their own Polybius Jan 2023 #27
Yes, and they also supply security when he is not there. GoCubsGo Jan 2023 #19
It's not just Trump's minions. It's Putin's minions too fescuerescue Jan 2023 #14
+1 Meadowoak Jan 2023 #17
Proofreading is a lost art nt sarisataka Jan 2023 #23
Guilty as charged. fescuerescue Jan 2023 #25
BTDT- many times sarisataka Jan 2023 #26
Considering the caliber of the best & brightest that Wee Hands surrounded himself with NotASurfer Jan 2023 #20
Wrong. Biden doesn't trust some of the gov't employees assigned to him. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #21
During TFGs admin TFG et al had access to Obama era docs uponit7771 Jan 2023 #28

kentuck

(115,452 posts)
1. I recall that some Obama-era documents were found amongst the Trump search?
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 11:40 AM
Jan 2023

Although I am unable to find a link for it?

Chakaconcarne

(2,792 posts)
12. If Obama documents were found at MAL and SS has been accused of being compromised...
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 12:30 PM
Jan 2023

Would they not have access to any of these Biden locations?

intheflow

(30,203 posts)
2. Not sure why you would assume this.
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 11:45 AM
Jan 2023

We know MAGA has infiltrated all levels of government, why not the National Archives?

onenote

(46,185 posts)
4. FFS
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 11:48 AM
Jan 2023

If that was the case, how was it that the National Archives were the ones to blow the whistle on Trump.

People are stretching to bizarre lengths to back up this ridiculous conspiracy theory.

These super agents of NARA managed to take some classified documents from the Obama era and plant them in two secure storage locations. And then wait until the Biden lawyers would find them.

Right.....

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
5. And not use them to affect the 2022 election
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 11:51 AM
Jan 2023

Even though they were found before the election...

intheflow

(30,203 posts)
7. Thanks.
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 11:59 AM
Jan 2023

That's the first useful debunking I've encountered. Of course, MAGA's aren't always the clearest-thinking folk, so maybe they planted the evidence and figured the news would leak before the election, but because they're MAGA, it turned into a fail.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
8. Before the Comey announcement in 2016
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 12:01 PM
Jan 2023

Roger Stone and Rudy Giuliani were teasing a big leak about Hillary. Then Comey's announcement (which I think was more to deflect from Stone/Giuliani).
Nothing of the sort this time.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
31. +1, ... or they were counting on a news organization that wasn't MAGA linked to spill the beans.
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 03:31 PM
Jan 2023

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
32. They wouldn't
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 03:32 PM
Jan 2023

But IF they were planted by Republican operatives, why wouldn't they use them?
The whole basis of this conspiracy is that Republicans planted the docs to damage Biden. Why didn't they use them to affect the election?

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
33. Because they would have to answer to their any knowledge of them. Any MAGA tie to the documents ...
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 03:35 PM
Jan 2023

... puts this on MAGA hands also.

That's easy, MAGA had to keep a 100 mile distance from anything related to this story

intheflow

(30,203 posts)
6. Riiiight. Only one person works at the National Archives
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 11:56 AM
Jan 2023

so they couldn't possibly blow the whistle on Trump and plant stuff on Biden. While unlikely, I find it equally unlikely that no one looked in a desk drawer in an unused office space on a college campus... for three years. I've worked at many colleges and universities and when a office is vacated it is often raided for things like a working stapler or a comfortable, adjustable chair, if not the desk itself.

fescuerescue

(4,475 posts)
15. There is lots of suspicious on the SS right now. Especially around January 6th.
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 12:33 PM
Jan 2023

We don't know that they are clean.

Meadowoak

(6,606 posts)
18. Absolutely, and they probably don't have full run of his home while
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 01:17 PM
Jan 2023

The POTUS is there, but they would ABSOLUTELY have access to the garage.

Polybius

(21,969 posts)
22. How would the SS have access to them?
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 01:30 PM
Jan 2023

The SS doesn't just roam the WH and walk into an archives area. They would be caught easily. Someone would have had to have given them to them.

Polybius

(21,969 posts)
27. Yeah, there's no way they did it on their own
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 03:23 PM
Jan 2023

No idea if Trump had access to them, but if he did, he would have to be in contact with a SS agent on Biden's team now. It's a bit too much for me to believe at this moment.

fescuerescue

(4,475 posts)
14. It's not just Trump's minions. It's Putin's minions too
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 12:33 PM
Jan 2023

Last edited Thu Jan 12, 2023, 02:52 PM - Edit history (1)

Gotta remember. Trump had access to all these for 4 years. And we know he was sharing classified information from the Russians.

Putin managed to influence an entire nationwide election 2016.

Surely his agents would be capable planting some documents in rarely used storage spaces.

(edit: thanks for pointing out the error)

fescuerescue

(4,475 posts)
25. Guilty as charged.
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 02:53 PM
Jan 2023

When it comes to forum posting. I'm kind of a "fire and forget" typist.

thanks.

NotASurfer

(2,369 posts)
20. Considering the caliber of the best & brightest that Wee Hands surrounded himself with
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 01:26 PM
Jan 2023

If anything was planted I'd expect it to have been created or classified sometime between February 2017 and January 2021. And maybe have put in some time in a file box in a closet in Florida.

I don't expect that anything was planted, mind you, I just think that's the level of stupid we'd see if anything was planted

Irish_Dem

(81,780 posts)
21. Wrong. Biden doesn't trust some of the gov't employees assigned to him.
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 01:27 PM
Jan 2023

The US gov't is full of GOP loyalists going back to when Joe was VP.

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