Dem Rep. Hank Johnson Suggests Classified Documents May Have Been Planted At Biden's Home

[News Junkie]

"My response to it all is that alleged classified documents showing up allegedly in the possession of Joseph Biden, there is so much that needs to be investigated, and that's what I call for, everything to be investigated. But I’m suspicious of the timing of it," Johnson said. "I'm also aware of the fact that things can be planted on people. Places and things can be planted. Things can be planted in places and then discovered conveniently. That may be what has occurred here. I'm not ruling that out. But I'm open in terms of the investigation needs to be investigated."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/01/12/dem_rep_hank_johnson_suggests_classified_documents_were_planted_at_bidens_home_and_office.html

[Catherine Vincent]

1. Doesn't hurt for the Special Counsel to be open on that

[News Junkie]

2. Yup. Check all angles. n/t

[COL Mustard]

26. Unfortunately everything has to be examined.

It's all about transparency and it's bad juju for anyone to have classified in a nonsecure location, no matter who, when, where or why. The only excuse is if you found something and were securing it. Otherwise, no excuse for anyone. We have to be consistent on this...it's already an own goal.

[BComplex]

3. That was what I told my husband the minute we heard it on the news the other night.

Those documents were planted. I'd put NOTHING past the secret service, or any of trump's plants, at this point.

[Evolve Dammit]

20. same. It is a very "compromised" agency

[bdamomma]

31. I read that President Biden

had to change some of his SS agents of tRump loyalty. SMH.

[dflprincess]

54. That was my thought

not the ones at the office necessarily, those could have been an honest mistake. But the ones at the house & their location, they sound suspicious.

[brooklynite]

4. How did "they" manage to get Biden's lawyers to search for and discover them?

[fescuerescue]

7. I can think of half a dozen ways

[onenote]

39. Would be interested in hearing any or all of them.

[whathehell]

49. Me too..

[MarineCombatEngineer]

50. So trot them out and let's hear them.

It should be interesting.

[fescuerescue]

58. Understand that we are dealing with a corrupt ex-President and a corrupt President of Russia

Continually underestimation of Trump and Putin is why we are, where we are.

None of us thinks that much of Trump, but anyone that get's to that level knows how to pull strings.

And any ex-President has strings to pull.

Haven't you wondered why he has NOT been charged in these 6 years?

Half a dozen? That's probably 100 short.

[onenote]

70. and yet you can't come up with one.

[fescuerescue]

74. Explaining obvious things on the internet rarely increases understanding

In fact it just creates anger and imo understanding goes down.

If you don't think that Putin and Trump are still very powerful and despicable people who have strings to pul - no explanation is going to help.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

71. Considering that at this point,

there is zero evidence of those docs being planted by anyone, so until I see some solid evidence of such, I'll leave the conspiracy theories to others.

As far as his not being charged in these 6 years, you said it yourself, he has strings to pull, but those strings are breaking and he, IMHO, will be charged here pretty soon.

Again, my opinion only.

[fescuerescue]

75. Well that's why there is an investigation

Nobody seems to know how they got there.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

76. Yes, at this point, no one seems to know how they got there,

so, again, so far, there is zero evidence of anyone planting anything and until there is solid evidence that such actions took place, I'll leave the conspiracy theories to others and wait for the investigation to complete.

Mind you, I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm just skeptical but I am keeping an open mind.

I just realized that it's Friday the 13th, maybe I should just park my rig for the day and rest up.
Any excuse for a day off.

[TheProle]

8. They lured them in with a fake "For Sale" sign on the Corvette.

[Celerity]

11. lololol

[emulatorloo]

14. ...

[2naSalit]

46. You KNOW that's it!

[sarisataka]

13. That's obvious

After the corrupt secret service agent, Bill-you know the one with the hammer and sickle tattoo on the side of his head, planted the papers he talked to Biden's attorneys.

They are in on it as well and so Bill told them exactly where he stuck the papers so the lawyers could then find them.

[W_HAMILTON]

24. Uhh, why did Biden's lawyers search for them to begin with?

Because whatever the answer to that is, is the same answer to your question.

[ShazzieB]

34. Didn't they find the first batch while packing up an office he no longer uses?

That's what I remember reading. And when that batch turned up, they decided to look around too see if there were others anywhere.

[W_HAMILTON]

41. My question was rhetorical.

Because whatever the answer for it was, the same answer could be given to the guy's post I was responding to.

[ShazzieB]

48. Oops, I think that was the post I meant to reply to, not yours. 🤦

Sorry about that!

[Maraya1969]

5. I think a lot of us have been thinking this. And that the Hunter Biden laptop being found

at some random computer repair shop sounds completely fake to me.

[Rebl2]

21. Yep

[OMGWTF]

29. The blind computer repair guy was just a bit too hard to accept.

[fescuerescue]

6. I feel a little vindicated

My bet is on the Russians.

We continue to under estimate their espionage ability. This despite influencing an election in 2016.

[Emile]

9. K&R

[gab13by13]

10. I don't think they were planted,

but I do have a question: why were $1,500 per hour attorneys packing up President Biden's boxes?

[onenote]

45. I have a question - why do you think this was being done by $1500 hour attorneys

The attorney who has been describing the discovery of the documents is Richard Sauber, who is a part of the White House Counsel's office. And those lawyers are not paid $1500 an hour.

[2naSalit]

47. +1

[orangecrush]

51. +2

[Tom Rinaldo]

12. Of course. Just like rigged votiing machines and fraudulent ballots can steal elections

Without any evidence though they are all just an unsupported conspiracy theories, and unsupported conspiracy theories are dangerous to our democracy. Having concerns about all of the above can be warranted depending on the circumstances, but that should lead to precautionary measures and/or a discreet investigation if need be, not wild speculations.

[hadEnuf]

25. Yes, coincidences happen all the time, right?

The scum that helped to try and violently overthrow the government gets sworn into congress and suddenly all this comes down on Biden within days.

It's frigging magic, I tell ya.

[bdamomma]

33. this stinks

of the GQP posse.

[Tom Rinaldo]

62. Neither is every conspiracy theory true. Sometimes it's just a theory, other times it's a conspiracy

I have my own opinions, sure. I think it is plausible that documents were planted. Plausible though is a piss poor standard of evidence. There is a difference when an average citizen speculates about a conspiracy on social media, and when an elected national official does so on the record, so to speak. National elected officials have an obligation to choose words carefully. It's one thing to say all possibilities should be looked into, it's another to imply specific misdeeds without a shred of evidence.

Saying something like "But I’m suspicious... Places and things can be planted. Things can be planted in places and then discovered conveniently. That may be what has occurred here" is the type of thing I expect from Lindsey Graham.

[Tom Rinaldo]

66. For the record I was only commenting about what elected national officials say out loud

I have zero issues with us all speculating freely on a discussion board

[0rganism]

15. document chain-of-custody records could help resolve this question

Unclear how much NARA will reveal, but it would be very interesting indeed if some of those so-called "Biden documents" used to be filling empty folders in Maralago...

[Fiendish Thingy]

37. NARA isn't a lending library, so they won't have anything to reveal

The Biden documents never made it to the archives, just like Trump’s.

[W_HAMILTON]

43. NARA knew about Trump's withholding documents...

...but apparently did not know about Biden's, which makes the two cases even most distinguished from each other and lends credence to the rumors I've heard that the so-called classified information was simply printouts of his daily briefings from his time in the White House as opposed to specifically requested documents that Trump had removed and packaged up and shipped to himself.

[wnylib]

55. If they were just copies of Biden's daily briefings as VP,

then I think that information would have been widely reported already.

So far, we have very little information on the documents and on how they came to be where they were found.

[W_HAMILTON]

63. That's actually where I got my information from to begin with.

It was some reporting that I read on here, but I don't remember where I found it and in all my recent replies and posts viewed, lord knows I have no chance of finding it at this point, which is why I just called it "rumors" since I knew I probably wouldn't be able to go back and find the exact piece of information at this point.

[wnylib]

65. It's the kind of thing that would make big news

and be splashed all over the media. So, since it hasn't been, I'm skeptical.

[BComplex]

69. And Biden's were sitting there for SIX YEARS before anyone noticed?

Does that sound like it makes a lot of sense?

[onenote]

77. It makes sense if no one has had any reason to go through his records for six years

Jeez... i have boxes of documents from jobs I held 40 years ago that I have carried around from workplace to workplace without ever needing to actually look at any of them.

[chowder66]

17. I doubt it but it does show that some sort of overhaul needs to be done to ensure

chain of custody and the return of documents.

At this point, I would think every single person in gov't that has had any access to documents should start going through offices, homes and any place they could have misplaced anything.

[Rebl2]

18. 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆

[republianmushroom]

19. Could be, the SC will get to the bottom of this.

Question... Will a grand jury have to be formed for this investigation ?

[Farmer-Rick]

22. Yeah, so many coincidences

Trump must be the luckiest man in the world.

[BunkieBandit]

23. Right on Mr. Johnson !!

Thank you for saying it. Too many deniers. Count me in. I got your back.

[Joinfortmill]

27. I wondered about that. The timing is suspect.

[wnylib]

60. The timing makes me suspicious.

Maybe the investigation into the documents will reveal how they came to be where they were, whether planted or not planted.

This does weaken the case against Trump's MAL documents. It delays charges against Trump while Biden's possession of documents is investigated and it creates doubts about Biden.

[bucolic_frolic]

28. Remember Watergate, they can plant documents as well as steal them

Payoff gatekeepers, they have the slush funds to do anything

[usonian]

30. Trust Q-HAUL to move sensitive stuff.

[onenote]

32. It was stupid when Trump claimed the documents were planted at Mar-a-Lago

And its stupid when Johnson and others make the same claims about the documents found in Biden's offices.

[Sewa]

79. Rep Johnson didn't make a claim

He suggested it as possible.

Are you going to claim it isn’t possible? 💀🤙

[ShazzieB]

35. I don't know if they were planted or not.

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But it looks suspicious as hell.

It's just too damned convenient for this to happen just when Trump is up to his ears in hot water over having classified documents in his possession. WAY too convenient.

[wnylib]

61. +1000

[Fiendish Thingy]

36. Kooky theory from kooksville

Just how would somebody break into the private home of a sitting president?

Even Roger Stone doesn’t have the brain or resources to pull something like that off.

[Karma13612]

73. SS trying to

“secure the property”.

[bdamomma]

38. Are there

security cameras at any of these places???

[orangecrush]

52. Great question.

[Ohioboy]

40. Maybe I'm totally naive,

but I just don't think the National Archives is so messed up that they would allow documents to just get lost for years in garages. For crying out loud, my local library keeps better track of books, and they're not classified!

I also don't think The National Archives picks sides politically when it comes to keeping track of things. I'm pretty sure they just want to do their job.

They weren't inept when it came to the documents Trump had. They knew Trump had documents and the National Archives was trying to get them back? It may have taken them awhile because of Trump's interference, but they were proven right, as the search at Mar a Lago showed.

How is it that Biden had documents in a garage for years since he was VP and no one was inquiring about them?

Something stinks and it needs investigating. We'll know if any of the investigations start pointing in directions unfavorable to republicans when they suddenly stop calling for a fair investigation.

[keithbvadu2]

44. Trump left his own deep state, of course.

Trump left his own deep state, of course.

Wasn't there a SS agent in the wrong area of the WH bitten by the dog?

[Wounded Bear]

53. It's fairly well known that many of the SS agents were pro-trump...

Just sayin'

[moniss]

56. Since the SS

has shown it cannot be trusted then I think some review is prudent.

I would also remind people that everybody in Germany in the late 20's and early 30's said that the fascists would never get so bad because the people wouldn't stand for it. Shortly after that if you held contrarian views to the fascists you could easily see people being dragged away every single day. How far away are we? The next GQP administration will exonerate any and all of the insurrectionists and the masterminds. Slow-walking going after the big guys allows time for that to play out so that a new GQP dominated DOJ can simply drop the prosecutions also.

[The Wizard]

57. Secret Service leans right.

Remember when they scrubbed all the text messages from January 6

[bdamomma]

68. I think

President Biden knows that too. Te SS leaning right.

[housecat]

59. There was opportunity to plant, so an investigation can expose the real culprit(s)

[Blue Owl]

78. Qccam's Space Lazer