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[Bettie]

1. And a lot of people here seem to be cool with that

to think it is the best thing he's done so far.

[Kaleva]

21. Do you think Biden is unfit because he's keeping an AG who thinks he's a criminal?

[Bettie]

35. No, but I think he may be too trusting

of some of the people around him. He's a nice man, who seems to think the best of people around him.

Sometimes people aren't who they seem to be.

I don't see where I said Biden is unfit.

ETA: Do you think that he is a criminal since his AG seems to believe that he is?

[ananda]

27. I'm not! Biden didn't even know about those papers being there.

And they were just a few unimportant docs.

[yardwork]

2. That's ridiculous.

Criminal investigation is warranted here because of the political implications. Biden probably asked Garland to open the investigation, quickly, to get ahead of the political fallout.

[emulatorloo]

5. +++

[JohnSJ]

11. I highly doubt Biden would do that, because that would imply interference with the DOJ. However,

I do agree with you that most likely Garland appointed the SC for political considerations, not because he personally feels Biden actually did anything criminal

In spite of much of the media trying present the Trump and Biden handling of the classified documents as equivalent, they aren’t even close, along with the fact that trump has admitted that he believes the classified documents belong to him personally, and has explicitly tried to obstruct and prevent the documents from being returned.

Much of the press is doing a tremendous disservice to the country by misrepresenting the situation, all for gaining attention and viewership

[Walleye]

14. I forget which news anchor said it. "But will the American people be able to tell the difference

Between the Trump and the Biden handling of classified documents case?” And in my mind I’m thinking to the guy, you asshole it’s your job to show them the difference

[JohnSJ]

16. Exactly, and that won't happen

[Walleye]

18. Yeah, that's too much like work

[Scrivener7]

36. Nope. They won't.

[brooklynite]

37. And they have, according to the news media I've seen

[Blues Heron]

3. Garlands true colors are starting to show

and it is not pretty.

[ananda]

28. It looks pretty elephantine to me.

...

[JohnSJ]

4. It is highly doubtful Garland believes that, and I believe this is done purely for political

considerations

[emulatorloo]

8. +++

[bucolic_frolic]

12. Absolutely

A lot of Republican and Independent voters would be turned off if this were waved off as irrelevant.

This is also an opportunity to penetrate Fox news with this specific issue. There is the benefit of equal justice - both parties subject to investigation over a similar issue - as well as any benefit if exonerated.

Joe has the credibility and experience to endure. Hope it's all smoke and no fire. And it may yet turn out that the documents are a setup by the other side. Imagine that publicity!

[gab13by13]

22. What will happen when no charges are filed against President Biden?

The Magat world will blister Merrick garland for being a partisan hack who covered up for President Biden.

[The Magistrate]

19. Then Let Him Indict Trump This Afternoon, Sir, For Political Considerations

If a man's posture is that he is unmoved by political considerations, he must be unmoved by them from whatever direction they originate.

The fact is that the man is primarily moved by political considerations, and never in an appropriate direction. He does not move quickly in a matter that needs speedy action, for fear of political fall-out if he does, and he moves quickly in a matter requiring no action at all for fear of political fallout if he doesn't.

I am very tired of people so concerned with what a righteous figure they cut. Strip this down to the bone the man has the same fatal flaw as Comey: nothing is so important to him as showing everybody he's the last boy scout in Washington.


"What other people think of me is none of my damn business."

[gab13by13]

25. Well said

Garland is treating the Trump and Biden cases exactly the same way. It took Garland 2 years to decide to appoint a sc for Trump and it took him 2 months to decide to appoint a sc for President Biden.

Garland is doing exactly what he said he would not do, he is being partisan.

[no_hypocrisy]

6. The goal is fact-finding, not indictment

[secondwind]

7. He sure isn't sitting on his laurels................... he's working

At least 978 people have been charged in the Capitol ... - Insiderhttps://www.insider.com › News › Politics
Jan 5, 2023 — Only 465 federally charged rioters have entered guilty pleas so far. The number of people charged in the insurrection has grown as FBI agents ...

I wish we could let this man do his job in peace.. Try to remember that Trump left dozens of spies behind in every department, and Garland has to be super careful about how to handle this.

[gab13by13]

30. News alert,

the insurrection is growing, it is even spreading to Brazil.

Nicolle Wallace said it perfectly yesterday. When Cassidy Hutchinson testified before the J6 committee it shook up DOJ, it embarrassed then into action against Trump and his inner circle.

It is obvious to most people who follow this that Garland did zero investigations into Trump and his inner circle for at least a year, he used the cover of saying he was using the pyramid strategy. The pyramid strategy was just an excuse to do nothing to the real coup plotters.

[MLAA]

9. I don't think so.

I think it’s a good thing that will demonstrate the stark difference between the 2 situations. Net one intentional and refused to cooperate for many months, one self reported and cooperated immediately. Without thorough investigations of both cases these stark differences cannot as credibly be shown.

I have no issue with it, and think in the long range it will be helpful to clearing this up while treating both situations the same with independent special counsels.

[gab13by13]

34. So then Garland lied about not being partisan?

If Garland appointed a sc because of politics then he is being partisan. His choice of a Trump appointed US Marshall was being partisan, his choice of the sc being a Trump appointee is being partisan.

Garland is afraid of what is coming at him from Gym Jordan.

[emulatorloo]

10. Clickbait title. And a really really bad hot take.

Pretty sure Garland does not believe that.

But you do win the internet today w the clickbait hot take.

[exboyfil]

13. Think if Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration had been quicker in clearing the deck

On the Wiener laptop issue, it might have been resolved earlier and not have impacted the election as much. Of course the whole thing was being manipulated by Trump loyalists in the FBI.

I think this is the correct approach. Biden should make himself available ASAP to answer questions.

[mackdaddy]

15. Unfortunately, Classified materials being where they were, is probably against the law.

We have not heard any explanation of why they were there, or why they were left there.
I do not believe they were big time in your face like what Trump had done. But this has the potential to be really bad, at least from an optics standpoint.

This is one of the greatest gifts to Trump that he has gotten in some time. I am sure Trump's defense attorneys are popping some champagne corks at the false both-sider-isms they will be able to spin.

I would not doubt that some at least some Biden staffers end up with charges for mishandling classified documents. Some one screwed up big time, and they all worked for Biden at the time.

[Happy Hoosier]

20. Incorrect

The law says it is against the law to remove the material with the intention of illegal retention or distribution. Merely haveing the documents isn't usually a crime.

Almost everyone with a clearance I know has at least one story where they found a classified document somewhere it was forgotten. Technically a violation of regulations and procedure, but not a crime if it wasn't deliberate.

[Kaleva]

26. It hasn't been determined yet if the taking was deliberate

The investigation will determine that

[Happy Hoosier]

32. Right, but that's not what the post I replied to said.

It suggested merely having the files there was probably illegal, which is wrong.

Whoever put them there mishandled classified documents, but didn;t commit a crime unless they knew they were there and intended for them to be retained illegally.

This is what Trump did. So far, there is no evidence Biden even knew they were there.

[Happy Hoosier]

17. Ah.... no.

Believing an investigation is warranted is not the same as believing the person is guilty.

There are lots a reason an investigaion can be warranted. For example, in this, preserving the appearance of neutrality. If he has not appointed a special counsel and charges Trump, there would be howls.

So I do suppoort the appointment, but to me it is 100% obvious there was no criminal conduct here. We'll just have to waste millions of dollars to get there.

[Bluethroughu]

23. Fact President Biden didn't know of these classified documents.

trump directed his team to take classified documents.

Took 2 years to indict trump and 2 months to indict President Biden.

We had an insurrection! An attack on our Government.

How many in Congress that aided, plotted and stirred up the foot soldiers have been indicted for it?


If we don't have rule of law...we have?

[secondwind]

29. For the record............

At least 978 people have been charged in the Capitol ... - Insiderhttps://www.insider.com › News › Politics
Jan 5, 2023 — Only 465 federally charged rioters have entered guilty pleas so far. The number of people charged in the insurrection has grown as FBI agents ...

[eShirl]

24. I think it's a criminal investigation of a matter, not of a person.

[Shellback Squid]

31. throw away the key!

on this thread, lol, wtf are you inferring about Garland's mindset when you really don't know

[TigressDem]

33. BUT WHY does the DOJ believe that a CRIMINAL investigation is warranted?

Because there is a HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES that are INTENT on finding Biden GUILTY of:
(anything)

Garland can give Biden a chance to be found INNOCENT.

THEN he can't be tried again for the same (imagined) crime.


NOW this is my hope. I don't know. No one does.

But it seems that Garland is following process to the letter and still giving at least a chance for Biden to get a fair examination of the facts by someone the REICH can't call a LIBTARD because he's definitely on the CONSERVATIVE side of the isle.



BECAUSE THE PRESS is already putting BIDEN on trial with more crazy than facts, it is also a way to inject FAIR and IMPARTIAL into the equation.

ONCE the DOJ determines what we know to be true:

Biden mistakenly retained a few classified documents in a secure manner, but neglected to return them and once found followed process and returned them by notifying the proper groups.

NOT a crime. Human error that was corrected BY the Biden team, not forced upon him through repeated requests for documents KNOWN to be missing.

For the Catholics in the audience - a sin of omission, not commission.


AND some of the press, at least MSNBC is reporting that it is the BIDEN TEAM that is making a thorough search of BIDEN's potential locations holding secured documents, IMMEDIATELY after finding less than a dozen at that locked office that was being cleared out at the University.


SO I am hoping Merick Garland is doing the best he can to make sure that President Biden gets a FAIR evaluation, potentially NO TRIAL needed by following process the same way Biden is following process to show the World that he has nothing to hide, except that he has been TOO fricken busy to keep track of every piece of paper.

Although he always kept CLASSIFIED DOCs secure as required by law, remembering to return every piece of paper once they had been safely filed... that was an issue. An issue that the law provides a legal process.

IT'S MORE LIKE AN OVERDUE LIBRARY BOOK than espionage, folks.