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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 12:50 PM Jan 2023

I had a briefing today from new DSCC leadership...

21 Democratic seats to protect

Top tier races are Tester (MT), Brown (OH) and Manchin (WV)

Second tier are Baldwin (WI), Rosen (NV), Casey (PA) and Sinema (AZ)

MD at risk if Cardin retires and Hogan runs

Looking at Cruz (TX), Scott (FL) and Hawley (MO) as potential targets






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I had a briefing today from new DSCC leadership... (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2023 OP
Plus we need to protect the Office of the Presidency. riversedge Jan 2023 #1
Why is Sinema on the list, she's no longer a Democrat? MagickMuffin Jan 2023 #2
I think maybe it's the seat, not the person (?). I could be wrong though. Sky Jewels Jan 2023 #4
For the same reason Sanders and King are on the list brooklynite Jan 2023 #5
Really hard for me to get excited about Manchin and Sinema, but I get we have to support them. quaint Jan 2023 #3
DSCC fully expects to have a Primary in AZ brooklynite Jan 2023 #6
Will they be supporting Sinema in that primary? Bettie Jan 2023 #40
The turncoat can't run in the Democratic primary Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #61
WV Governor Jim Justice has repeatedly said he is considering running against Manchin for US Senate. Maggiemayhem Jan 2023 #31
At least as a Californian, I don't have to vote for him. quaint Jan 2023 #51
Well that sounds daunting. RandySF Jan 2023 #7
Brown is a must hold liberal N proud Jan 2023 #8
Cruz is a shoo-in for Texas so probably not worth spending money. Lonestarblue Jan 2023 #9
Scott is a world class piece of shit. rubbersole Jan 2023 #43
Castro Brothers Deep State Witch Jan 2023 #44
Then it had better be Joaquin Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #62
"...especially Florida." markodochartaigh Jan 2023 #45
Screw Sinema. With friends like her, who needs republicans Ray Bruns Jan 2023 #10
IF Sinema wins the D Primary she has to be supported... brooklynite Jan 2023 #11
I agree. Need a strong candidate to run against her in the primary if there is a chance. LiberalFighter Jan 2023 #15
Are there no Democrats that can run against her? Autumn Jan 2023 #16
Yes, there will be. Elessar Zappa Jan 2023 #18
Yet DSCC leadership according to the OP is supporting her. Autumn Jan 2023 #20
I don't think that's correct. Elessar Zappa Jan 2023 #21
According to the OP she's a second tier seat to protect. Autumn Jan 2023 #28
Maybe that's assuming she wins the primary? Elessar Zappa Jan 2023 #29
I would, too, if I lived in her state. calimary Jan 2023 #42
Agreed. But I think a serious challanger would beat her in a primary n/t Tom Rinaldo Jan 2023 #23
Has Sinema decided to run in the Democratic Primary? Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #38
The GOP will come hard at Sen. Brown, real hard irisblue Jan 2023 #12
I would say in order of weakness it would be Hawley, Cruz, Scott. LiberalFighter Jan 2023 #13
Baldwin should be Tier 1 because Wisconsin could not defeat Ron Johnson Tetrachloride Jan 2023 #14
Barnes was not an Incumbent; Baldwin is. brooklynite Jan 2023 #19
I agree regarding Barnes. Nevertheless Tetrachloride Jan 2023 #22
K & R Bookmarking FakeNoose Jan 2023 #17
PLEASE target Scott!!! CaptainTruth Jan 2023 #24
Kick! Hekate Jan 2023 #25
May be too soon to ask, but any comments about the ground game? Raven123 Jan 2023 #26
Any talk about MI? yardwork Jan 2023 #27
Hogan is well respected in MD by both sides. Keep Cardin in for as long as possible. Samrob Jan 2023 #30
I don't think Manchin will switch to the GOP. Elessar Zappa Jan 2023 #32
Agree but Hogan just said he is considering Presidential run. (Local tv) Maggiemayhem Jan 2023 #33
Well, that takes him out of the Senatorial race, maybe? nt Samrob Jan 2023 #34
What the hell happened in NY with Santos? PufPuf23 Jan 2023 #35
Santos is a House Member. DSCC deals with Senate candidates. brooklynite Jan 2023 #54
I noted that Santos House and your discussions were about the Senate PufPuf23 Jan 2023 #57
Oof. When it's laid out like that, there are a lot of challenges. BlueCheeseAgain Jan 2023 #36
People will vote for Hogan Deep State Witch Jan 2023 #49
All three of the rethug targets listed would be incarcerated in a just world JT45242 Jan 2023 #37
r's hsve FL ted up with a bow, sickening as that is. lark Jan 2023 #39
Darn, hadn't thought of hogan running for our Senate seat, if Cardin retires. elleng Jan 2023 #41
Larry Wants to Run Deep State Witch Jan 2023 #47
His odds would be better with a Senate run. Don't assume a choice is made at this point. brooklynite Jan 2023 #55
Marylanders love Hogan and will vote for him. crazylikafox Jan 2023 #60
Sinema should be off the list completely. Fiendish Thingy Jan 2023 #46
Thank you for sharing this! 2024 brings with it bronxiteforever Jan 2023 #48
I'd like to see a national policy or ground game KS Toronado Jan 2023 #50
Why are we protecting Sinema, who is not a democrat in name or deed? AllyCat Jan 2023 #52
Remind us who Sinema voted for for Majority Leader last week. brooklynite Jan 2023 #53
And yet she craps on everything for the rest of us. AllyCat Jan 2023 #56
Thank you for posting this. CBHagman Jan 2023 #58
Every day for the next 2 years the voters need to hear about the contrast between parties. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #59

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
2. Why is Sinema on the list, she's no longer a Democrat?
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 12:57 PM
Jan 2023



She has become an independent, unless she’s changed her mind.


 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
5. For the same reason Sanders and King are on the list
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 01:02 PM
Jan 2023

She's still part of the Democratic Conference.

quaint

(5,080 posts)
3. Really hard for me to get excited about Manchin and Sinema, but I get we have to support them.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 12:58 PM
Jan 2023
 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
61. The turncoat can't run in the Democratic primary
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 01:58 AM
Jan 2023

In Arizona, only official party members can do that.

Or that's my understanding.

Should have applied the same principle to the national elections. Would have saved us a great deal of grief and foolishness.

Maggiemayhem

(890 posts)
31. WV Governor Jim Justice has repeatedly said he is considering running against Manchin for US Senate.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 02:25 PM
Jan 2023

A Justice win would be a Republican seat in Senate.

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
9. Cruz is a shoo-in for Texas so probably not worth spending money.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 01:13 PM
Jan 2023

I doubt Beto will challenge him again, and Republicans have also passed voter suppression laws to make it harder for Democrats to vote. They have also been courting Hispanics in border areas with Republican community centers and non-stop propaganda. Plus, these same communities, most of them poor, are tired of dealing with the constant influx of migrants and the negative effects they have on their communities. Republicans promise to fix the problem. Of course, they won’t but they’ll get elected on empty promises.

I don’t know how popular Hawley or Scott is, but their states seem rabidly Republican, especially Florida.

rubbersole

(11,223 posts)
43. Scott is a world class piece of shit.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 03:06 PM
Jan 2023

I'm in Florida and his 11 point plan to get rid of SS and Medicare are perfect fodder for attack ads. After the midterms put Lil Marco back for 6 years, my optimism for any Dem in a statewide race is waning. But with desantis on the ballot there could be hope. tfg and our nazi governor attacking each other could be gold for a good candidate.

Deep State Witch

(12,716 posts)
44. Castro Brothers
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 03:11 PM
Jan 2023

I'd like to see one of the Castro twins challenge Cancun Cruz. I think that either of them would succeed where Beto did not.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
62. Then it had better be Joaquin
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 02:04 AM
Jan 2023

Julián has never won anything other than San Antonio mayor.

Joaquin's political machine wins--and it's been winning for a long time now, both the state legislature and US Congress. I don't think Joaquin has been out of office since he first won election in 2003 (someone from TX correct me if I'm wrong).

His problem is that he's never run state-wide before, and that's a way different election from running in safe SA districts. But he's still a more seasoned campaigner than Julian.

Don't get me wrong--I like Julián. I just don't think he has the election moxie to get it done.

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
45. "...especially Florida."
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 03:11 PM
Jan 2023

Literally 15% of all the Black adults in Florida are felons. The voters voted to allow ex-felons to vote, but the Republican state government found a way (not letting ex-felons vote until they have paid their fines, and then making it very difficult to find out how much they owe) to keep them from voting. Unless Democrats can find a way to enforce the will of the people I think that Republicans will hold Florida.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
11. IF Sinema wins the D Primary she has to be supported...
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 01:20 PM
Jan 2023

...we can't afford to lose her vote for Majority Leader.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
15. I agree. Need a strong candidate to run against her in the primary if there is a chance.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 01:25 PM
Jan 2023

If she runs.

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
21. I don't think that's correct.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 01:35 PM
Jan 2023

I think they’ll stay out of the primary since Sinema’s no longer a Democrat.

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
29. Maybe that's assuming she wins the primary?
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 02:16 PM
Jan 2023

In any case, I’ll be supporting her opponent in a primary.

calimary

(90,020 posts)
42. I would, too, if I lived in her state.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 02:59 PM
Jan 2023

I’d want a Democrat I can count on.

I already DO want Democrats I can count on.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
38. Has Sinema decided to run in the Democratic Primary?
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 02:41 PM
Jan 2023

My understanding was that she become an independent to avoid the Democratic primary as a way to be sure to be in the General election.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
13. I would say in order of weakness it would be Hawley, Cruz, Scott.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 01:24 PM
Jan 2023

They should be able to do a lot with Hawley running chicken and Cruz skipping the country.

Tetrachloride

(9,624 posts)
14. Baldwin should be Tier 1 because Wisconsin could not defeat Ron Johnson
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 01:24 PM
Jan 2023

Otherwise, get a new DSCx

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
19. Barnes was not an Incumbent; Baldwin is.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 01:33 PM
Jan 2023

Barnes was also, honestly, not a great candidate.

Tetrachloride

(9,624 posts)
22. I agree regarding Barnes. Nevertheless
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 01:49 PM
Jan 2023

DSCC knew or should have known.

My point: in 2016 and 2022, i don’t believe that the Washington DC based operatives took Wisconsin seriously and that they will continue to do the same.

They knew and did what ?

Raven123

(7,797 posts)
26. May be too soon to ask, but any comments about the ground game?
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 02:11 PM
Jan 2023

Really see Ohio as tough to hold. Seems to be glowing a brighter shade of red every election cycle

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
30. Hogan is well respected in MD by both sides. Keep Cardin in for as long as possible.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 02:22 PM
Jan 2023

Hogan also has some health issues and he may just want to stay home. Our second tier seem pretty safe except for Sinema. I believe Brown and Tester are ok. Manchin is shaky. He may decide to run as GOP, then what?

What does our bench-in-waiting look like? Any potential great GenZ sitting on the bench?

INMHO we need to spread the money around as much as possible and work hard on state and local elections, especially Governors.

Just my thoughts.

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
32. I don't think Manchin will switch to the GOP.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 02:27 PM
Jan 2023

If he did, he’d face a primary opponent who will be a far right maga who, it being West Virginia, would likely win.

PufPuf23

(9,852 posts)
35. What the hell happened in NY with Santos?
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 02:34 PM
Jan 2023

Given how tight margins are in Congress, why was Santos not a huge issue in the election?

Was there any discussion by DSCC leadership about what went wrong with Santos? There should be discussion.

Santos is in your backyard. Why didn't you warn DU?

Realize your post is talking about the Senate not the House.

Who does the DSCC favor to replace Feinstein?

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
54. Santos is a House Member. DSCC deals with Senate candidates.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 03:40 PM
Jan 2023
Santos is in your backyard. Why didn't you warn DU?


Probably because Zimmerman didn't warn me?

PufPuf23

(9,852 posts)
57. I noted that Santos House and your discussions were about the Senate
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 04:21 PM
Jan 2023

but thought the Santos issue might be a conversation topic.

Too bad Suozzi could not have been replaced by another Democrat and we lost the seat.

Santos ran unopposed in the GOP primary.

Zimmerman is pretty much a Conserva-Dem with multiple GOP ties.

Seems like we could have come up with a better candidate and made a better effort to retain the House seat.

Was there any chat about who the DSCC favors for Feinstein? Many Californians (me) are curious.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,983 posts)
36. Oof. When it's laid out like that, there are a lot of challenges.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 02:35 PM
Jan 2023

Three Dems in states that Trump won, plus four others in 50-50 states. Florida is the only GOP seat that was close in 2020, and it went hard red in 2022.

I don't think MD will vote for a Republican, though. People seem to know the difference between federal and state races. It's okay to have a governor of the opposite party (as seen in KS, LA, VT, and recently MD and MA), but when it comes to control of Congress, that's something else.

Deep State Witch

(12,716 posts)
49. People will vote for Hogan
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 03:17 PM
Jan 2023

Larry Hogan is very popular here in Maryland. He's seen as a sane alternative to the crazies. He would get a lot of crossover votes from whichever Dem ran. Unfortunately, the Republican party has been taken over by crazy-land. His hand-picked successor lost the primary to a guy backed by TFG. Hogan actually supported Wes Moore rather than Crazy Cox.

JT45242

(4,043 posts)
37. All three of the rethug targets listed would be incarcerated in a just world
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 02:36 PM
Jan 2023

All involved in the insurrection and the big lie.

lark

(26,081 posts)
39. r's hsve FL ted up with a bow, sickening as that is.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 02:43 PM
Jan 2023

If Scott loses, he will just cheat and find a way to say he won with all the billionaires in FL behind him.

Deep State Witch

(12,716 posts)
47. Larry Wants to Run
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 03:13 PM
Jan 2023

for President as the sane alternative to the crazies. Unfortunately, I don't think he'll get anywhere because the crazies are in control of the GQP.

crazylikafox

(2,925 posts)
60. Marylanders love Hogan and will vote for him.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 07:41 PM
Jan 2023

I hope we have a damn good candidate to run against him

bronxiteforever

(11,212 posts)
48. Thank you for sharing this! 2024 brings with it
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 03:13 PM
Jan 2023

many challenges to our campaign committees. I don’t envy the decision makers. I will support them even if it my little vote and contributions don’t amount to “a hill of beans” because I see no other choice. I just wish that a potential GOP victory wouldn’t bring with it a torrent of hate.
We have much to defend but many opportunities to highlight the positive and uplifting form of our party’s leadership that stands in stark contrast to the other side.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
50. I'd like to see a national policy or ground game
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 03:17 PM
Jan 2023

whatever you want to call it where we educate voters all the good reasons why they would be better off
voting a straight Democratic ticket instead of Putin and Fascists who want to destroy our Democracy.
Attack them as a group, they're all rotten. FQX and the like advertise 24/7 how terrible ALL DEMOCRATS
are, let's give them a taste of their own medicine.

AllyCat

(18,842 posts)
56. And yet she craps on everything for the rest of us.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 04:04 PM
Jan 2023

There’s a reason she’s going “independent” and we prop her up our limited resources when other candidates can use the help.

CBHagman

(17,493 posts)
58. Thank you for posting this.
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 04:23 PM
Jan 2023

I just got a donation request in the mail for Sherrod Brown, and he is definitely getting my support (though not my vote, because I no longer live in Ohio).

And I want to hear more about the strategy for the Senate. Among other things, we need to reach young adults and new voters of all kinds.

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