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marmar

(77,086 posts)
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 11:26 PM Jan 2023

Trump's fake electors sued in Michigan, adding to their legal troubles


(Detroit Metro Times) Sixteen Michigan Republicans who posed as presidential electors and falsely declared that Donald Trump won the 2020 election are in legal trouble again.

Three of the state’s presidential electors who cast ballots for Joe Biden filed a lawsuit against the Republicans and are asking a judge to declare that the “fake elector scheme was illegal under Michigan law.”

The lawsuit was filed in Kent County Circuit Court by Blake Mazurek of Kent County, Robin Smith of Ingham County, and Timothy Smith of Ottawa County.

“Plaintiffs suffered humiliation, mental anguish and stress as a result of being cast in the false light created by defendants’ election fraud and lies,” the lawsuit states. ..............(more)

https://www.metrotimes.com/news/trumps-fake-electors-sued-in-michigan-adding-to-their-legal-troubles-32093213




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Trump's fake electors sued in Michigan, adding to their legal troubles (Original Post) marmar Jan 2023 OP
It would be awesome if this goes through and declares this scheme ILLEGAL... TigressDem Jan 2023 #1
Meanwhile, Wisconsins Attorney General sits on his _____ Firestorm49 Jan 2023 #2
Law Forward is attempting to get some traction TigressDem Jan 2023 #9
This!!☝️ onetexan Jan 2023 #6
I want to also see accountability at the federal level. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #7
Me too. TigressDem Jan 2023 #8
TY & MI! Cha Jan 2023 #3
FAFO. rubbersole Jan 2023 #4
I remember seeing that. Mickju Jan 2023 #5

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
1. It would be awesome if this goes through and declares this scheme ILLEGAL...
Fri Jan 13, 2023, 11:43 PM
Jan 2023

Michigan may be the first to protect voters rights in this way, but if it happens others might do the same.

Every time accountability happens and the law is reasserted in a calm professional manner, we reclaim an inch or so of dignity for the country and more hope for Democracy to remain our form of government.




TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
9. Law Forward is attempting to get some traction
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 03:01 AM
Jan 2023

https://wisconsinexaminer.com/2022/12/19/report-argues-for-criminal-charges-against-wisconsins-fraudulent-electors/

While the actually elected voters met in public in a meeting broadcast on Wisconsin Eye, the false electors met secretly in the state Capitol and cast votes for Trump. A key point made by the report is that the fake electors cast their ballots hours after the state Supreme Court, in a 4-3 decision, ended the Trump campaign’s lawsuit to have thousands of absentee ballots cast in Dane and Milwaukee counties tossed out. 

The report states that the false electors knew of the court’s decision and knew that this was the end of the line for Trump’s efforts to change the results. Because there was no longer a possibility of Trump being declared the winner in Wisconsin, the report states the electors’ actions possibly constituted forgery, falsely assuming to act as a public officer, misconduct in public office, simulating legal process as well as conspiracy and party to a crime. 

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A number of voting rights advocates in Wisconsin have pressed to have the false electors held accountable since taking their votes, yet so far no action has been taken. The electors, Carol Brunner, Mary Buestrin, Darryl Carson, Bill Feehan, Scott Grabins, Andrew Hitt, Kathy Kiernen, Kelly Ruh, Robert Spindell and Pam Travis have not faced any consequences, and in some cases have continued to hold positions of power within the state party and the government. 

The voting rights focused legal outfit, Law Forward, has been one of the few organizations within the state pushing for the electors to be held accountable. In 2021, the firm filed a complaint with the Wisconsin Elections Commission alleging that the false votes constituted election fraud. 

In March, the commission unanimously voted to dismiss the complaint. Spindell, a Republican-appointed member of the commission, was able to cast a vote on the issue that involved his own actions. 

WTF Wisconsin?


In February, attorneys for Law Forward sent a letter to Dane County District Attorney Ismael Ozanne urging him to investigate the false electors for potential crimes. That letter argues the electors committed many of the same crimes alleged in this week’s report. 

“We respectfully suggest that it is within the duties of your office to promptly investigate and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law the apparently felonious acts described here,” attorneys Jeff Mandell and Mel Barnes wrote. “What is most important is that the unbridled and unlawful attacks perpetrated … against the fundamental precepts of American democracy, both here in Wisconsin and more broadly, never recur. Unfortunately, developments over the past year clearly establish that the only way to ensure that these attacks do not recur — or worse, become a routine part of our presidential election cycle — is to hold the fraudulent electors and anyone else responsible for their conduct accountable. We are determined to see that happen.” 






TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
8. Me too.
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 02:39 AM
Jan 2023

However, IF States stand up for "State's Rights" actually PROTECTING Voters Rights OVER legislature edict and elector tampering then it sets a precedent for the Federal level to model.

Michigan honors it's own Constitution and doesn't let their legislature pick whatever President they want regardless of the People's Voice/Choice.

So, NO you can't interpret "State's Rights" without honoring your constituents rights and giving them some legal way to defend their rights.

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