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Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 03:58 AM Jan 2023

independent bookstore owner slams customer who bought $800 of art/cook books for holiday decor

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11634593/Chicago-bookstore-owner-slams-customer-bought-800-books-stage-home-returned-refund.html

Chicago independent bookstore owner slams customer who bought $800 of art and cookery books to decorate their home for CHRISTMAS - only to return them after holidays ended

An independent Chicago bookseller vented their frustration after a custppomer returned a purchase of art and cookbooks worth $800

The buyer had bought the books in December to use them as temporary decorations for the holidays and then returned them once they were over

Rebecca George's tweet has been viewed millions of times with many people responded by offering support and suggesting ways to prevent it in the future

'Turns out one of our biggest sales last month was for the person to stage their home for the holidays, and now they want to return them all. Please don't do this to a small business, people.' George tweeted.

The tweet has since gone viral with almost 7 million views.

George also noted how the sale amounted to almost one third of her store's monthly rent.

'Wow, this person came in and bought up all these art books! What a great day,' George said she thought at the time of the bumper sale. 'We needed it right then.'
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independent bookstore owner slams customer who bought $800 of art/cook books for holiday decor (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jan 2023 OP
simple - a no returns policy. you buy it its yours. books are not likely to stop working nt msongs Jan 2023 #1
That's an extreme response to what appears to have been a single jerk. Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #3
How would it drive away customers ? JI7 Jan 2023 #6
I have lots of choices for where to buy books. Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #18
Trying to think why one would return a book? I'm moonscape Jan 2023 #25
Answer: he never intended to read the books... brooklynite Jan 2023 #27
I get that. I was replying to moonscape Jan 2023 #28
If I buy a book as a present, for example, Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #29
I do not see her tweets as a "slam", just frustration with a terrible asshole of a niyad Jan 2023 #2
Agreed Demovictory9 Jan 2023 #4
Maybe exchange or store credit but not refund . JI7 Jan 2023 #7
Per the article, the customer got a store credit. But the return policy needs niyad Jan 2023 #8
Idea cherish44 Jan 2023 #5
Oh, I think the customer spent a lot of time thinking it through. tanyev Jan 2023 #16
I would not avoid a bookstore with a policy of "all sales are final". Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #9
You gotta' be kidding me NJCher Jan 2023 #10
Yep. These could have been library books. intheflow Jan 2023 #24
Amazon allows books to be returned. I did it once when Croney Jan 2023 #11
Wow...how selfishly entitled was that! electric_blue68 Jan 2023 #12
I RARELY return things. Even Amazon has noticed as I've gotten accelerated service hlthe2b Jan 2023 #13
me too.... returned maybe 3 items out of a hundred purchases BlueWaveNeverEnd Jan 2023 #30
friend works in retail. Amazed at how much gets returned. dembotoz Jan 2023 #14
A book store that allows you to return the books is a library. bottomofthehill Jan 2023 #15
A 30-day return policy is pretty standard, Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #19
So you buy the book, read it, and return it? Beaverhausen Jan 2023 #32
No. I buy the book to give to someone at a baby shower - Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #33
But do you agree that store credit should be the only way to return? Beaverhausen Jan 2023 #34
Those are two different questions. Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #37
The seller says returns are actually very rare, @ 1%, usually Hortensis Jan 2023 #26
We can't take that book back it's been in the bathroom. Hotler Jan 2023 #17
I bought a book from Amazon about Dec 10th for my daughter's xmas gift panader0 Jan 2023 #20
The only things I've ever returned anywhere are excess building supplies, like two unneeded sinkingfeeling Jan 2023 #21
Using books as props - sort of sums up what's wrong with so much of our society. yardwork Jan 2023 #22
I'd be willing to bet the asshole who did this, can more than afford to buy Carlitos Brigante Jan 2023 #23
The customer needs to be identified and banned. LiberalFighter Jan 2023 #31
The bookstore's owner is Rebecca George from VOLUMES BOOKS TdeV Jan 2023 #35
🌞 Demovictory9 Jan 2023 #36

msongs

(73,890 posts)
1. simple - a no returns policy. you buy it its yours. books are not likely to stop working nt
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 04:17 AM
Jan 2023

Ms. Toad

(38,717 posts)
3. That's an extreme response to what appears to have been a single jerk.
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 04:28 AM
Jan 2023

The owner indicated only 1% of book purchase are returned.

Driving away customers becase one was a jerk is not a good policy, when independent bookstores are struggling to keep the doors open.

Ms. Toad

(38,717 posts)
18. I have lots of choices for where to buy books.
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 10:42 AM
Jan 2023

A 30-day return period is pretty standard.

If I not only have to pay more to support my local bookstore (costs are generally higher there than, say, Amazon) but I also have to take the risk that I can't return the book, I'm going to buy from the competition where I don't have that added risk.

moonscape

(5,784 posts)
25. Trying to think why one would return a book? I'm
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 02:29 PM
Jan 2023

sure there are reasons I’m missing, only in my 72 years of avid reading I’ve not returned a single book. If I read a chapter and don’t like it, I guess I consider it’s on me not the merchant.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
27. Answer: he never intended to read the books...
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 04:16 PM
Jan 2023

They were setting a mood in his house for Christmas visitors

moonscape

(5,784 posts)
28. I get that. I was replying to
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 04:20 PM
Jan 2023

Ms Toad’s post on that a no return policy would be an issue for her.

Ms. Toad

(38,717 posts)
29. If I buy a book as a present, for example,
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 06:13 PM
Jan 2023

and find out that the person I am buying it for already has the book. If I sign up for a class, discover the professor is a right wing nut job that I can't stand and drop the class on day 1.

I rarely buy books for myself - I have a subscription to Kindle Unlimited and "read" my books by listening to them. If they aren't available as part of the subscription, I usually check them out of the library. So probably 90% of my book buying is as gifts - and ability to return is a big factor in that kind of purchase.

niyad

(133,125 posts)
2. I do not see her tweets as a "slam", just frustration with a terrible asshole of a
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 04:20 AM
Jan 2023

customer. The return policy needs readjsting.

niyad

(133,125 posts)
8. Per the article, the customer got a store credit. But the return policy needs
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 04:57 AM
Jan 2023

adjusting.

cherish44

(2,566 posts)
5. Idea
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 04:44 AM
Jan 2023

Probably not ideal because of the waste but....

Wrap all books in something. Paper, plastic, cellophane (hopefully something recyclable though). Have a sample copy that people can look at in the store to see if they like what's inside. If you unwrap it, it can't be returned unless there's a provable defect in the book.

I used to work for a book publisher. Returned books were not resold. The company just had to eat the cost.

Maybe the people who did this didn't think it through. I imagine if you're going to spend that kind of money on a staging with the intent of returning the items you're probably not thinking about anything other than yourself and your image.

tanyev

(49,420 posts)
16. Oh, I think the customer spent a lot of time thinking it through.
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 10:09 AM
Jan 2023

And decided they were absolutely entitled to do it. Probably even felt that the bookstore owner owed them for all the free advertising they were getting.

NJCher

(43,295 posts)
10. You gotta' be kidding me
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 06:37 AM
Jan 2023

I don’t know of a single bookstore that has a return policy around here. You buy it, it’s yours.

To do otherwise makes it in effect a library.

I’m glad this selfish idiot only got a store credit.

intheflow

(30,207 posts)
24. Yep. These could have been library books.
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 02:16 PM
Jan 2023

At the old library where I worked, I remember a patron who came in a few days before Christmas every year to check out huge coffee table art books, books of short stories, and graphic novels to leave around the house over the holidays when she had family visiting. It gave her guests something to do besides watch tv. I thought it was a brilliant idea.

That someone would do this to a small business is 100% inexcusable when they literally could have gone to the library.

Croney

(5,018 posts)
11. Amazon allows books to be returned. I did it once when
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 07:34 AM
Jan 2023

I found out that the person I planned to give it to already had the book. I felt like George Costanza. You can't return this book! It's flagged! It's been in the bathroom!

hlthe2b

(114,196 posts)
13. I RARELY return things. Even Amazon has noticed as I've gotten accelerated service
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 07:58 AM
Jan 2023

before on the exceedingly rare occasion that I've had to return something (typically in exchange for the same item), so nearly always for a problem with the specific product.
I've even had customer service reps send the replacement out the same day.

I don't know how people can feel no guilt about the excessive and overwhelming merchandise return on a mere "whim"... Especially to local businesses that have been struggling for years.

I feel for that bookstore. That customer is an absolute a'hole.

 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
14. friend works in retail. Amazed at how much gets returned.
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 08:16 AM
Jan 2023

mountains and mountains...

some gets restocked, some goes to the dumpsters.

If you set a policy, no matter what, folks will take it to the edge.

Ms. Toad

(38,717 posts)
19. A 30-day return policy is pretty standard,
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 10:46 AM
Jan 2023

In bookstores, as elsewhere.

I would think twice, at a minimum, about buying from a place without a return policy.

Beaverhausen

(24,701 posts)
32. So you buy the book, read it, and return it?
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 07:02 PM
Jan 2023

Really?

I hope you are ok getting store credit and not you money back.

Ms. Toad

(38,717 posts)
33. No. I buy the book to give to someone at a baby shower -
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 07:14 PM
Jan 2023

and a half dozen others buy the new parents the same book. I buy a book for a birthday or Christmas present - and discover the recipient already have that book (or hate that author). I buy the book for a class, which I drop because it turns out the professor is a right wing nut job I wouldn't be able to stand for the semester.

At least 90% of my book-buying falls into one of those categories, since most of my personal reading is either my audio book subscription or checked out from the library.

You really aren't imaginative enough to think of reasons a book might be returned, other than to cheat the system? Do you assume the same of people who occasionally need to return other things?

Beaverhausen

(24,701 posts)
34. But do you agree that store credit should be the only way to return?
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 07:40 PM
Jan 2023

Do you think what the customer who is the topic of this thread did is ok and she should get her money back?

Ms. Toad

(38,717 posts)
37. Those are two different questions.
Sun Jan 15, 2023, 11:43 PM
Jan 2023

A 30 day return is standard. If a store where I'm considering buying a present (or a textbook) won't refund the purchase price within 30 days, I'll spend my money elsewhere that will. I'm already spending extra to patronize a brick and mortar store. I'm not willing to be additionally punished because one person was a jerk.

What the customer did is certainly morally reprehensible. She also missed the 30-day deadline and was not entitled to a refund. I probably wouldn't even have given her a store credit.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. The seller says returns are actually very rare, @ 1%, usually
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 03:01 PM
Jan 2023

because the buyer turns out to already have a copy.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
20. I bought a book from Amazon about Dec 10th for my daughter's xmas gift
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 10:58 AM
Jan 2023

and, as of yesterday it still has not been sent. So I asked for a refund. If it came now I would
have to mail it to her. So I gave her my copy of 'Under the Volcano' instead. I have never before
returned a book. I often buy books used and keep what I buy. Lots of books here at my house.
My daughter said she read 41 books this past year--she rated them all with stars for some
internet club.

sinkingfeeling

(57,868 posts)
21. The only things I've ever returned anywhere are excess building supplies, like two unneeded
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 11:15 AM
Jan 2023

boxes of flooring.

If I want a used book, I'll buy it at a used book store or thrift shop.

yardwork

(69,466 posts)
22. Using books as props - sort of sums up what's wrong with so much of our society.
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 11:23 AM
Jan 2023

I can understand using a few beautiful books as decorations, but there's something very superficial about buying books only to use as props.

 

Carlitos Brigante

(26,848 posts)
23. I'd be willing to bet the asshole who did this, can more than afford to buy
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 11:25 AM
Jan 2023

all that. But chose to fuck the store over. Which is probably one of the reasons why they are rich in the first place. But who knows why people are the way they are.

On the other hand reading about complete strangers trying to spend and donate money does give me a tiny glimmer of hope for humanity.

TdeV

(160 posts)
35. The bookstore's owner is Rebecca George from VOLUMES BOOKS
Sun Jan 15, 2023, 12:31 PM
Jan 2023

and here is Rebecca's tweet which has been viewed 6.9 million times




The bookstore's name is VOLUMES BOOKS
https://www.volumesbooks.com/

Natch, I bought a book
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