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Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 12:55 PM Jan 2023

This is what russia did today.

They waited for the weekend morning to destroy an apartment building.


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Many are buried in the wreckage. Casualties are unknown. If you want you can seek out video where you hear the screams of people buried in the rubble.
All the while the west refuses to send long range missiles and planes to Ukraine.
Many other cities were struck this morning with ballistic missiles in clouding Lviv.
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Warpy

(111,255 posts)
3. They're already therre. Their guys are being trained here
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 02:44 PM
Jan 2023

and as soon as they can work the system, they'll go home and own the skies. Patriots will plug up the last hole in their air defenses.

They won't shoot everything down, but in combination with their other gear, it should go up over 90%.

The problem with this ultra high tech stuff is that people need to know how to use it. It's not totally user friendly.

ornotna

(10,800 posts)
7. Italy are sending SAMP/T Anti-Aircraft System as well
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 03:19 PM
Jan 2023
https://en.defence-ua.com/industries/italy_approved_transfer_sampt_anti_aircraft_system_to_ukraine-5434.html

According to the statement, SAMP/T based on the ASTER 30 Block 1 interceptor is an effective system, primarily against cruise and anti-radar missiles, large drones, and also has some anti-missile capabilities (against short-range missiles).

peppertree

(21,627 posts)
2. Terrorism and atrocity worthy of Nurnberg Trials
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 02:44 PM
Jan 2023

No normalization with Russia, as long as Putin and/or his toadies are in in the saddle.

And even then, only with hundreds of billions in reparations.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
4. The reparations may lead to a new round of disasters.
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 02:48 PM
Jan 2023

I know putin won't pay them out of his own (or his own oligarch's) pockets. It'll have to come from the country of russia which is already close to beggarly poor.

Lonestarblue

(9,986 posts)
10. I don't care how poor the country gets. Putin and generals need to be prosecuted for their
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 03:43 PM
Jan 2023

horrendous war crimes. And once they’re imprisoned or executed, Russia needs to be isolated until they give up their nuclear weapons. They have proven to be a totally irresponsible country that q ts illegally and aggressively to take over other countries. They might not be so brave without nuclear weapons.

I know that’s a fantasy, but Russia seems to produce leaders that love to threaten nuclear war.

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