Trump In Big Trouble In The E. Jean Carroll Lawsuit.

[gab13by13]

First of all Carroll has a fantastic lawyer, Roberta Kaplan, she is top of the hill. It is hard to believe some of Trump's statements, he just cannot stop incriminating himself.

This civil law suit has been going on since 2019 for a reference for the wait and see crowd. I think the first trial is scheduled this February,, Carroll also sued Trump for sexual assault.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-claimed-woman-who-accused-him-of-sexual-assault-in-a-luxury-department-store-said-rape-was-sexy-and-indicated-that-she-loved-it/ar-AA16l7KJ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=c523e2d874834b0aa85d511a87aaf9e7

In the October deposition, Trump misrepresented comments Carroll made about the allegation in an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper.

"She actually indicated that she loved it. Okay? She loved it until the commercial break. In fact, I think she said it was sexy, didn't she? She said it was very sexy to be raped," Trump said.

Carroll's attorney Roberta Kaplan then asked the former president: "So, sir, I just want to confirm: It's your testimony that E. Jean Carroll said that she loved being sexually assaulted by you?"

He responded: "Well, based on her interview with Anderson Cooper, I believe that's what took place."

Trump repeated the claim that Carroll described rape as sexy several times and suggested that Cooper was in a "panic" over her comments, so he called for a commercial break.

[Ocelot II]

1. Read the transcript here:

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/01/trump-deposition.pdf

I want to take a shower after reading that transcript. Carroll's lawyer is excellent; she made him admit he thinks pretty much everything that ever happened to him is a "hoax" or "fake news," which seriously undercuts his insistence that Carroll made up her rape claim. But eww, I can't imagine taking that deposition without just losing it and screaming at that sleazy, crazy SOB.

[Scrivener7]

3. Thank you for the transcript.

I opened it to read it, though, and then realized there is no way I could stomach 48 pages of his lies.

[Dale in Laurel MD]

17. I also can't imagine how Kaplan kept her cool.

TFG was almost as abusive toward her as toward Carroll, and threatened more than once to sue both of them for mistreating him so horribly.

[COL Mustard]

39. Be careful...he'll sue you too!

And me, and Oprah, and everyone else! As Bugs Bunny would say, what a maroon!

[PatSeg]

21. My god, he is so stupid

No wonder his lawyers didn't want him talking to Mueller's team. He is a trainwreck.

[ShazzieB]

41. Thanks for posting this.

If I understand correctly, this document just contains the pages that previously had redactions. Very interesting reading, but without all the context, it's a little hard to follow at times. Do you have a link to the rest of it? I did try searching, to no avail.

Thanks again for this.

[Ocelot II]

43. As far as I can tell, this is all that was released to the public.

[gldstwmn]

45. That transcript made for some interesting reading.

Even in this deposition he is doing his carnival barker act. I surprised he didn't start chattering "crooked Hillary." He went with Cuomo instead.
Also, I have never seen anyone proclaim their innocence so much. Having any sort of direct conversation with him seems to be a total nightmare.

[SoCalDavidS]

2. So, What's Going To Be His Fine For This One?

$1.5 Million for Years & Years of Tax Fraud, so how much is rape worth?

[Ocelot II]

4. This is a civil case, not a criminal one. If Carroll wins it, the amount awarded her

will be decided by a jury.

[GoodRaisin]

55. And someone to serve time in his place.

The tax fraud case should also serve to show that nobody named Trump will ever serve a day in a jail or a prison.

[Maraya1969]

5. So first he says he's innocent because he is not attracted to her and then he says she thought

"it was sexy to be raped"

I don't know if there is a jury but I can't see how anyone would conclude that sex happened between them. Now they just have to prove that it was rape. And he is the one that has lied about it since the beginning.

[Justice matters.]

22. The 'other LIE' is that he never met her but he LIES that she said that...

I don't know this woman, have no idea who she is
20· ·other than it seems she had a picture of me many
21· ·years ago with her husband shaking my hand on a
22· ·reception line at a celebrity charity event.· She
23· ·completely made up a story that I met her at the
24· ·doors of this crowded New York City department store
25· ·and within minutes 'swooned' her."· "Swooned" is in

[louis-t]

29. My response to "She's not my type" defense?

"So if you she was your type, you would have raped her?" But that's me.

[tinrobot]

33. They don't have to prove anything about rape.

This is not a rape trial. It is a defamation trial about comments he made decades later.

They just have to prove that he defamed her. This transcript does nothing but bolster that claim.

[Ocelot II]

48. It's also a sexual assault case now, since a judge recently ruled

that sexual assault victims can, in some cases, sue their assaulter even after many years.

A federal judge on Friday rejected former President Donald J. Trump’s effort to dismiss a lawsuit in which the writer E. Jean Carroll accuses Mr. Trump of raping her in a dressing room at a Fifth Avenue department store in the mid-1990s.

In letting the suit proceed, the judge, Lewis A. Kaplan of Federal District Court in Manhattan, upheld a 2022 New York law that gives adults who claim to have been sexually assaulted years ago a one-time window to sue those they say abused them even if the period for doing so under the statute of limitations has long since expired.

In his ruling, which the law’s chief State Senate sponsor described as a first in New York, Judge Kaplan labeled “absurd” Mr. Trump’s argument that the legislation violated the state’s Constitution.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/13/nyregion/trump-e-jean-carroll-lawsuit.html

[gldstwmn]

49. She has the dress. His DNA has been requested.

[Bayard]

6. He admits he raped her then

Case closed.

I can see why he finds it difficult to find a good attorney.

[Cha]

13. Exactly.. he admits it.. not only is

he a rapist, a Traitor, a genocidal maniac, a Psychotic Liar, he's a Flaming Stupid Idiot.. and to our horror...the former potus.

[COL Mustard]

42. Personally, I'm glad that he is....

Our FORMER POTUS!!! I hope he is having a miserable retirement and will never ever be allowed a position of power again.

[vlyons]

30. His lawyers could interpret it as --

She SAID that rape was sexy in her interview, not she said it while being raped

[Bernardo de La Paz]

35. Problem for them is, Carroll is available to refute such interpretations. Only jury's take counts.nt

[onenote]

50. Which actually is what his testimony indicates

He's testifying as to what she said, not what he admits happening.

DU's armchair lawyers are overplaying this.

[ShazzieB]

56. Question.

DU's armchair lawyers are overplaying this.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Could you possibly elaborate?

TIA

[CanonRay]

7. He's always in "big trouble"

and then nothing happens or he gets a small fine which he writes off. Not holding my breath.

[leftyladyfrommo]

11. I honestly don't think anybody knows what the hell to

do with him.

[Orrex]

12. His sentence will be a polite, non-binding request that he not rape anyone else

[Ocelot II]

19. This is not a criminal case; it's a civil case - he's being sued by E. Jean Carroll

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for defamation and for sexual assault. The statute of limitations has run on any criminal charges, but not for private lawsuits, and the State of NY has a law allowing victims of sexual assault to sue even if it occurred years ago. If Carroll wins the case a jury will decide how much he has to pay Carroll (she may have to wait in line to collect, though).

[Orrex]

58. Yes I know that.

My post was a commentary on the justice system’s decades-long history of being gently deferential to Trump et al, with only token taps on the wrist now and then to preserve the quaint illusion that we’re all equal under the law.

[Cha]

14. And, it's Not over yet.

[edhopper]

8. The interview

he is a monster, no other way to describe him.

Assault is talked about at end.

[Delphinus]

40. I read

through the deposition - I can't see a thing in this interview that he's talking about.

[edhopper]

44. When back into a corner

he just start talking shit. He constantly contradicts himself. He is a lawyers worse nightmare. He did this all through his Presidency, his followers and the media for the most part, ignored it.

[TeamProg]

9. Hard to believe this guy was POTUS. Oh wait! The GQP is insane.. that's right.. m/t

[calimary]

23. And GOP voters are gullible as hell.

No wonder he targeted them. He can recognize easy marks as soon as he spots them.

[Takket]

10. egad, how did his lawyers let him say something like that?

[Justice matters.]

15. hair furhair never 'listens' to his 'sane' lawyers advice.

All lies. She never said that in the interview.

Yet, nothing ever happens (nor ever happened) to that sexual predator, even when he bragged about kissing and grabbing the 'beautiful' by their privates by surprise (and for most, against their will).

[Dale in Laurel MD]

16. Well, when Giuliani is the best of the lot....

nt

[republianmushroom]

18. better get out the check book, trump

[BradBo]

20. I think I'm actually shocked. Did his lawyers abandon him?

[Ocelot II]

24. No, but they might as well have.

It's Alina Habba again, the same idiot who represents him in other cases, none of them very competently.

[Justice matters.]

26. Nope.

She must be still hoping to receive a paycheck...

[TheRickles]

25. But isn't he just saying "That's what she said", in so many words ?

He's reporting her version of events, not confessing to rape. Or am I missing something here?

[Justice matters.]

27. Although true, but he LIED about what she said in the CNN interview...

She never said 'that rape was sexy' !!!!!!!!!!

hair furhair making stuff up about HIM again... wants to brag about being raped by him is sexy

[madville]

47. Her exact quote to Cooper was

“I think most people think of rape as being sexy. They think of the fantasies."

I remember watching the interview, Anderson Cooper looked like he winced in pain when she said that.

[whathehell]

57. In her.quote, she was likely comparing

" the fantasies" of rape to the reality.

[madville]

61. That's the problem

The statement is too open to interpretation, anyone can hypothesis as to what they think she meant, as Trump did in the deposition.

[ShazzieB]

59. I don't think this video has the whole interview.

It seems to cut off rather abruptly, and it doesn't include the part you mentioned.

[SergeStorms]

28. That's my take on it.

First off, I'm NOT defending the loathsome SOB, but the way I read it, he's relating what she said - very poorly - to Anderson Cooper.

Maybe my interpretation of it is way off.

[edhopper]

46. "But she liked it anyways"

is pretty much confessing it happened.

[onenote]

51. No, you're not missing anything.

Some posters are overplaying the significance of this part of the testimony.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

31. "Have you stopped beating your wife, Mr. tRump?" "Yes." He is stupid enough not to see it

(not actual quotes, riffing the common-place trope)

[TheBlackAdder]

32. Trump is such a piece of shit. Will he ever get the message?

.

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[WestMichRad]

34. Best defense remaining for his lawyers:

“Our client is an idiot who doesn’t know what he’s saying!”

(NOT intended to be sarcasm!)

[Lucinda]

36. I have never seen anyone tattle on themself as much

as this fool does...
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[RANDYWILDMAN]

37. He needs to settle NOW

But he won't cause he thinks he so smart but really stupid !



This guys has blown 40 people fortune's in his life and could not make a casino work even when they take 8 out of every 10 cents played, classic fool thinking "I was born on 3rd base, I know how to hit home runs"

[CharleyDog]

38. I hope there's DNA on the dress. nt

[Ocelot II]

53. There might be, which is why Carroll kept the dress and why her lawyers

have been trying to get TFG's DNA samples. Mary Trump has offered up hers, but she might not have the same DNA markers as TFG, depending on how it was passed on through her father, Fred. So that might not be useful or admissible.

[Paladin]

52. And how many "Trump In Big Trouble" reports have come along, in recent memory?

Sorry, I refuse to waste any more optimism, at this point.

[SayItLoud]

54. So TFG admits he raped her. NT

[mcar]

60. Read it last night

Her attorney is excellent. Trump didn't seem to realize what trouble he was getting himself into.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

62. He needs to take his lawyers advice and STFU