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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Sun Jan 15, 2023, 07:46 AM Jan 2023

How surprised were Garland and the Special Counsel when they discovered classified documents..?

..at the home and office of Joe Biden?

Did they curse under their breath or out loud?

It could not help but hurt the MAL stolen documents investigation. The effects might even seep into other investigations?

In my opinion, the impact will be that Donald Trump will not be charged with holding classified documents, but will be charged for obstruction, for holding them after he was requested by the National Archives to return them, and obstructing the search, even after a subpoena from the DOJ. Even after a search warrant, he was still holding classified documents. His lawyers conspired to lie to the FBI.

But, it has not helped the case of Merrick Garland or the Special Counsel Smith, as they do not wish to spend a lot of time debating the "documents" from each side. Time is not their ally.

They may just decide to move on, without that charge in their quiver.

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How surprised were Garland and the Special Counsel when they discovered classified documents..? (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2023 OP
At this point we really don't know how much evidence of crime the FBI has on Trump Walleye Jan 2023 #1
I hope they have evidence he passed/sold them. nt woodsprite Jan 2023 #4
Don't we pay POTUS to look at classified docs? Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #2
If they can trace the missing top secret ones KS Toronado Jan 2023 #3
Biden having documents is a punch in the stomach for Democrats. Dann it, it just sucks. dem4decades Jan 2023 #5
I agree. Kaleva Jan 2023 #7
Definite6ly self-inflicted. toesonthenose Jan 2023 #12
Agree, though I bet Obama doesn't have any. dem4decades Jan 2023 #13
Not surprised at all. They are seasoned professionals doing their job. Beastly Boy Jan 2023 #6
It Bears Reminding Once Again SoCalDavidS Jan 2023 #8
Do you promise to eat your words if you are wrong? fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #10
Absolutely SoCalDavidS Jan 2023 #11
As surprised as us. fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #9

Irish_Dem

(47,546 posts)
2. Don't we pay POTUS to look at classified docs?
Sun Jan 15, 2023, 08:40 AM
Jan 2023

He is just doing his job.

Trump was fired and retired. We don't pay him to do squat.
He should have left all work materials where they belonged.

KS Toronado

(17,384 posts)
3. If they can trace the missing top secret ones
Sun Jan 15, 2023, 08:47 AM
Jan 2023

to foreign governments, he's gonna be in BIG TROUBLE and for a long time.

toesonthenose

(136 posts)
12. Definite6ly self-inflicted.
Sun Jan 15, 2023, 12:43 PM
Jan 2023

I don't think it is horrible that he had them, I am sure every single person that has served at that level in government, especially for that length of time does. Guarantee you Bush does, Obama does, as well as cabinet members. Maybe not TSSCI level, but I guarantee you at least Confidential level documents.
The self inflicted wound was President Biden addressing it on 60 minutes and talking about how irresponsible it was for TFG to have them (which it definitely was) but then to have them found in his Delaware home. The UPenn docs don't bother me as much, but the stuff in the garage at his house is a big problem. I agree, technically it is apples and oranges when compared to, haha, the orange, as he is cooperating and not obstructing. But it is definitely a huge optics problem and hamstrings us from banging Drumpf over the head on this subject.

Beastly Boy

(9,509 posts)
6. Not surprised at all. They are seasoned professionals doing their job.
Sun Jan 15, 2023, 10:30 AM
Jan 2023

These are the kind of things they are trained to deal with on a daily basis, and I can't see their reaction being anything resembling a surprise. And if they have any personal feeling about it, they are also trained to keep them to themselves and not let them interfere with their doing their jobs well.

It is the media that will be speculating about their emotions and motives to no end, making increasingly ridiculous statements with each news cycle.

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