It's always been about Control

[CousinIT]

NOTE: I did not write this. It was written by Muriel Vieux on Post: https://post.news/article/2KJn1ViSZBR8FTVvH5Rya0M5XAf


You claim it’s not about control but…

 

First you banned abortions after 6 weeks

Then you threatened my doctors if they performed one

Then you threatened my friends if they helped

Then you offered money to snitchers

Then you restricted my rights to get it legally elsewhere

Then you banned the morning after pill (isn’t that before 6 weeks?)

Then you banned methods to prevent implantation

Then you banned methods to prevent fertilization

Then you criminalized miscarriages

Then you banned aborting non-viable fetuses

Then you banned aborting ectopic pregnancies

Then you banned them for those who’ve been raped

Then you banned them in the case of incest

Then you forced children to carry to term

They you forced women to carry dead fetuses to term

Then you said I can only be helped on the brink of death

Then you denied me pre-natal care

Then you denied me maternal leave

Then you denied me childcare

Then you gave rapists paternal rights

Now you’re banning birth control  

Now you’re telling me how to dress

Now you’re monitoring my period apps

Now you’re monitoring my social apps

 

Your claim is null and void

It was always about control

 

January 14th, 2023

Muriel Vieux

©All Rights Reserved

Paypal.me/murielvieux

[msfiddlestix]

1. I feel like the term "Control" is insufficient to define what this is, but I haven't found....

the perfect one word descriptor yet.

[EYESORE 9001]

2. I believe 'oppression' comes closer

but still doesn’t suffice in describing this all-encompassing domination of people’s lives.

[lark]

17. I think oppression is extremely close, but actually think it's perceived ownership.

The mean think they own us and so can control what we do or don't do for reproduction or to stop reproduction. Actually, they think they own us and so control everything and we have no rights. Fuck that.

[erronis]

22. I'll go with the "ownership" suggestion. Women are slaves.

We went into the Middle East to impose our form of democracy; we were instead infected by their form of autocracy/theology.

[Genki Hikari]

27. Not true

Considering women property existed for sexist trash in this country long before we ever thought about going into the Middle East.

Women being property of husbands is a foundational idea for the dominant religion in this country--and everywhere else their poisonous ideas originated from and spread to.

Muslims are not to blame for what that religion has touted, long before there ever was anything called Islam.

[BlueMTexpat]

36. This! eom

[msfiddlestix]

42. Exactly. However, it seems to *me* the Big Three religions adapted the same play book for exactly

the same reasons. DOMINANCE.

Which of course is about Control, but it punctuates the matter better for me because I know it's also about an inherent intention to spawn offspring which reflects who *they* are thereby manifesting more power over others and their environment.

A fevered pitched purpose driven of an extremely desperate need to maintain power, control and dominance.

There has to be a single word descriptor but I just don't have it at the tip of my fingers at the moment.

[CousinIT]

3. the closest one I could find was...

..reproductive slavery. But many people take issue with that.

[Scottie Mom]

8. Seems to fit the conduct displayed. EOM

[msfiddlestix]

43. I have no issue with that descriptor, it is exactly the point, the only way to spawn offspring

reflecting their race, their tribe, their family lineage etc. thereby maintaining enduring dominance.

[Javaman]

9. Slavery comes to mind nt

[Genki Hikari]

28. Well, the dominant religion has always

Proclaimed that women are property--and so did its prequel religion.

I mean, it's right there in the book that women are property, just like livestock and slaves.

[Joinfortmill]

19. Ownership.

[TygrBright]

32. The word you're looking for is "dehumanization".

If someone is human, you must extend them human rights, which apply to everyone who is human.

Bodily autonomy, for instance, is a human right.

When you say "this type of living creature is not entitled to human rights" you are proclaiming that type of creature Not Human.

Women, to the Patriarchy and their GOP helots, are domestic livestock with lipstick, perfume and high heels.

disgustedly,
Bright

[msfiddlestix]

44. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t

[area51]

39. or misogyny. n/t

[NullTuples]

41. Domination / Dominion ?

Most of the Evangelical Christian efforts the GOP is working on now were pushed by Christian Dominionists 20 years ago, along with their plans to infiltrate at least one political party as well as every level of government. They've pretty much kept to their timetable.

[Timeflyer]

4. Perfect summation of the erosion of our right to bodily autonomy. Thanks for posting!

We won't go back.

[Farmer-Rick]

13. It takes away a woman's free will

According to Christian mythology, God gave us free will to decide about evil and sin.

I guess it never was a god, just men pretending it was god all along.

The Catholics and forced birthers don't pay any attention to their own Christian dogma

[Genki Hikari]

29. According to that same mythos

Women are property--it's right there in the book they all follow.

You don't get to pretend that women as property hasn't always been a foundational idea of the religion--when it always was.

There's ZERO free will in being exhorted that women must submit to their husbands in all things, and cannot be in authority over males.

If you must submit if told--even though you don't want to, and that you cannot be in authority--even if you could be, and if you are told to be silent, when you wish to speak...

Well. all of that is a direct contradiction to women having free will.

So you can save that patently absurd and dishonest assertion about including women in that "us" about free will.

Because it does not exist in that misogynistic mythos.

[Farmer-Rick]

37. Well, you have a good point

When the only choices you give women is mother/slave wife or nun what kind of free will is that?

The only people who are really given free will in Christian dogma are men. Women are expected to be quit little helpmates to their masters.

This forced birther idea is totally dependent upon religious dogma to even be considered sane. Without religion, it makes no sense to force birth onto women. Our dwindling space and planet wide resources are quickly being depleting. Humankind needs less people not more.

Without religion there would be no forced birth movement. They are advocating for something that is actually harmful to humans at this time. It's as if the religious don't realize we no longer live in an ancient goat herding society.

[Joinfortmill]

20. 👍

[Lonestarblue]

5. It's patriarchal subjugation based on extremist Christian beliefs in male superiority.

Subjugation by the state is of course a characteristic of totalitarian governments, and that is what we have in red states today.

[Genki Hikari]

30. Extremist belief?

It's always been part and parcel of said religion that women are supposed to submit to their husbands in ALL things and not be in positions of authority over men.

That's explicitly stated in the SECOND part of the book. Not that it wasn't spelled out in the first part, too. I mean, one of the ridiculous commandments that every member of that religion holds up as good and true lumps in women as being property not to covet, along with livestock. By the way, the laws that repeatedly make women lesser than men in the first part of the book? The deity of the second part said all of that still holds true until the earth ends. What laws did you think he meant? Because I assure you it wasn't any other law but the one in the book.

Have you not read the book? ALL of it?

[ashredux]

6. The change today is that it's OK to have shoes, but you're still in the kitchen pregnant...

[liberal N proud]

7. I think republicans envy the control the Chinese government or the Taliban have over their subjects

They do not see the citizens of the US as constituents or even citizens but rather their subjects there for them to rule.

Power is their drug.

[certainot]

10. authoritarianism is sometimes measured with the Uncertainty Avoidance Index (UAI) and sexual

repression and control of women and reproductive rights increases the male frustration that increases the CertaintyDeficit Disorder

it's an essential component of authoritarian patriarchies and theocracies

[onlyadream]

11. Yes to all of this, and...

The morning after pill prevents pregnancy, it doesn’t end it.

“ EC does not cause an abortion — instead, EC helps prevent pregnancy. The hormones in EC work by keeping a woman’s ovaries from releasing eggs.”

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/ask-experts/ok-this-like-three-questions-in-one-is-the-mornig-after-pill-considered-abortion-how-can-you-get-the-morning-after-pill-how-effective-is-the-pill

[Evolve Dammit]

12. well said.

[Tadpole Raisin]

14. Oh boy you are on target with this.

- Ironic that some republicans voted dem because of this but will vote for another republican who will vote the same way but just not talk as outrageously.
- Some republicans withheld their republican vote because of this (they just couldn’t vote for a democrat because they will take all your rights away you know AND come for your appliances).
- Some republicans are perfectly ok going to a dictatorship as long as their guy is the dictator.
- Some don’t think it will happen but if it does it will only restrict liberal rights or they will blame dems.
-Some think if their pregnancy is a late term risk or their daughter was raped well please respect our privacy. They will do what they need to do because their situation is justified and real whereas democrats probably did something immoral or lazy and deserve what they get… responsibility ya know!

Never once do they consider rights for all, just for them. Rights and responsibilities are opposite sides of the same coin but when you fall for narcissistic con artists with their lies you deserve the coins with 2 heads. Just don’t try to pan it off on us when you realize you got screwed over.

Sigh….

[Joinfortmill]

21. 👍

[housecat]

15. All republicans own this now, not just the evil fascist lunatics

[Prairie_Seagull]

16. Follow the money is a time honoured saying for a reason.

Women are nothing more than cash machines for greedy fucking oligarchs. They don't have babies they have stocks that pay huge dividends throughout 75 years or so.

Emotion is just the buy in.

The blue pill is just the tune up/refill for the cash machine.

I wasn't going to weigh in on this but it's worse than we think. IMO

[Joinfortmill]

18. Welcome to our version of Iran.

Women won't tolerate this. Believe me, they will not.

[Duppers]

23. Forced births equals more people equals

Lower labor costs + Higher demand = More $$$$$$ for the controlling class.

[ificandream]

24. Great post.

[keithbvadu2]

25. Pro-life to conservatives/republicans is a myth.

Pro-life to conservatives/republicans is a myth.

Republicans are in favor of killing living babies and have done so.

The supposed pro-lifers cared naught when the state of Texas (republican gov, republican Prez) deliberately killed living baby Sun Hudson against the mother's wishes because he was an inconvenience to the state.

It is not a matter of life to the supposed pro-lifers.

It is a matter of control.

[Cha]

26. TY!

[Hekate]

31. What I've been saying. This is the outline anyone can print out and carry in their pocket.

Brava, Muriel Vieux

[littlemissmartypants]

33. And they've been laser focused on this agenda for decades. It's not a sneak attack.

It's been a deliberate, unwavering repetitive pounding and they're finally breaking down the walls that have been protecting us.

Too bad so many of us, especially those with the power to protect us, don't seem to have been as focused.

None of this happened overnight. The history of the subjugation of women and the wielding of the weapon of misogyny has marked millennia.

I'm beginning to believe that the hope for bodily autonomy and for a world where women (and children) are treated with dignity and respect is a fantasy.

Thanks for sharing this, CousinIT. Well done, Muriel Vieux.

❤️ pants

[republianmushroom]

34. Nailed it

[FakeNoose]

35. It's horrible to be a woman in the United States these days, especially for those under 40

I'm in my 70's now - well past my child-bearing years. However I can relate to everything "Muriel Vieux" says here.

Except for one very important thing: I would never have given personal info (or political opinions) on any open internet/social media outlet. I really HOPE that "Muriel Vieux" is not her/their real name. I really HOPE that the RW crazies have no way to identify her/them in real life. If they can, her life is in danger. That's how bad it is.

The fact that this is a Paypal account makes me wonder. Hmmm ...

[BlueMTexpat]

38. This is

what we have become!

[rebe303]

40. Control and oppression

Roseanne's character said something like "Men control everything but this (grabbing her tummy) and that's not enough for them."